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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><i>ONLY HELPFUL COMMENTS PLEASE</i> <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
our family is small, dh, me, dd who is 4 mo, and 2 kitties (who seem to have the run of the place :p) and our living space is small too, about 600 sq feet. dd's "room" is what used to be a murphy bed closet. A traditional sized crib will just barely squeeze in there width wise, and will stick out 3" or so depth wise. Since she's so little, and will be for a very long time, we were thinking of getting a "mini crib" for her.<br><br>
Pro: it's smaller, will be easier to wheel into our room when necessary, more cozy for her<br><br>
cons: won't be easy to find bedding (but did find one site), can't find where to get a mattress (one comes with it), won't convert into toddler bed<br><br>
this is what I've found:<br><a href="http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/ref=cm_wl_hu-item-added/601-2536804-0006541?_encoding=UTF8&jsebd=1&asin=B000BXT07A" target="_blank">http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html...sin=B000BXT07A</a><br><br><a href="http://www.shop.com/op/~Davinci_Emily_Mini_Crib-prod-16999560" target="_blank">http://www.shop.com/op/~Davinci_Emil...-prod-16999560</a><br><br><a href="http://www.netkidswear.com/minibabycrib.html" target="_blank">http://www.netkidswear.com/minibabycrib.html</a><br><br><br>
Any other suggestions?! Pro's and cons are welcomed and encouraged!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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Why do you need a crib at all? Skip it all together and enjoy the extra space.<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/yeahthat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="yeah that">: We never even bought a crib because we cosleep and will until DS is ready for his own (probably twin size) bed.
 

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We <i>want</i> a crib for dd. It's what dh and I decided is best for our family.
 

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mdc is probably not the best place to get well-informed crib advice, as most of us have never had one. you would probably have better luck at babycenter.com<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Yeah, I can't imagine you'd get much good good advice on that here.
 

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Well, I was hoping I would, as I've seen other mamas talk about cribs before...<br><br>
I suppose anyone not interested in helping me out could just not reply.<br><br>
to all readers:<br><br>
no judgements please, and only helpful comments.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I see that you all were trying to help, thanks. I was hoping to get some useful info on this from this community...<br><br>
maybe not <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug">
 

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Oooh, I love to shop!<br><br>
I like the second one...prettier, nice handle and great color!<br><br>
But, please, if you use a crib (I didn't, we cosleep), don't let your baby cry in there. No cying alone in the crib allowed.<br><br>
All of these are rocking cribs...if the space is so small, won't they hit the wall? If baby sleeps away from you, how are you going to keep the kitties out of baby's bed?
 

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hhmmm .. .I like the first but it has pretty bedding which may be swaying me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
I have never understood the need for a full sized crib. How long are people keeping thier kids in these things? My chidlren were out of thier crib by 12-18 months. with our last we had an oversized cradle (which I am thinking is about the same size as what you are looking at.) that she fit into until she was about a year and then went right to a futon. i don't remember the details (except for it was impossible to find bedding anywhere but babies r us). It looks like it was about 18 x 36, same as our changing table. If I think about it I will go up and measure for you. it is 3 floors up being used for storage. not fit for kids anymore <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"> I think it looked like the one in this .<br><br>
crib bedding is super easy to make. Do you sew at all. I would be happy to give you a little tutorial. If you don't sew at all I know someone who could make it custom for not too much money.<br><br>
have you checked Ikea? they are the champs of small living spaces. I couldn't find anything on thier site though. You wold think they would be all over that.<br><br>
as for a mattress, if you want something more substantial or more natrual than what it comes with I would check with a custom company. I saw a lot at babies r us. in several odd sizes.<br><br>
and to the previous poster - every rocking crib/cradle I have seen has a lock out feature. we never used the rockers on ours, they are annoying and I htink sorta dangerous - but may be paranoid. and why do you assume she needs a warning to avoid CIO? I used cribs and co-slept with all of my chidlren (wouldn't leave them in bed unattended as they were all movers and shakers) and I have never let my child cry alone in a crib. lots of my friends have cribs/infant beds for whatever reason and none of themn wouldever consider CIO. There are lots of reasons to have a crib/co-sleeper/infant bed. and lots of ways to combine gentle attentive parenting and co-sleeping. owning one does not equal detatchment or CIO. generally I would rock mine to sleep and lay them down. they weren't going to fall on the floor, get stepped on or bounced on by sibblings. It also gave her a quiet little sanctuary in which to sleep. Quite a blessing in our home. i also know co-sleepers who do cio. It is just as easy to leave your baby in your bed screaming as it a crib. where your child sleeps has no bearing on how they get to sleep.
 

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We are wonderful loving APparents whose children don't CIO...and we use a *gasp* crib. I don't feel the least bit guily about it and certainly don't think you should either. Different things work for different people. and you can be a loving mom and not share a bed with your baby.<br><br>
That said...I think I would just get a pack and play! They don't take up much space, and you can easily find sheets for them. They also are great for travel.<br><br>
My kids slept in their pack n plays next to my bed for the first 5 or 6 months. They have a bassinet feature too.<br><br>
My daughter could still sleep in it very comfortably when she was almost 2 and we would travel.<br><br>
Both my kids moved to their own rooms at 6ish months and had a normal crib in there...they never cried and my 15 month old still nurses 3 or 4 times a night.<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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I was trying to be helpful <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"> How about a crib mattress on the floor with some small barrier? That could work for awhile to come. I would not have been comfortable with my dd in a mini-crib size wise after 5 or 6 months.<br><br>
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not being snarky, i swear...how do youknow your 15 month wants to nurse? And do you get up 3 or 4 times and keep putting the 15month back into his/her own bed?
 

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Where is she sleeping now?<br><br>
We co-sleep but I would think that a "mini-crib" isn't going to last you very long, especially where she is already 4 months old. Seems like a waste of money IMO.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">and to the previous poster - every rocking crib/cradle I have seen has a lock out feature. we never used the rockers on ours, they are annoying and I htink sorta dangerous - but may be paranoid. and why do you assume she needs a warning to avoid CIO? I used cribs and co-slept with all of my chidlren (wouldn't leave them in bed unattended as they were all movers and shakers) and I have never let my child cry alone in a crib. lots of my friends have cribs/infant beds for whatever reason and none of themn wouldever consider CIO. There are lots of reasons to have a crib/co-sleeper/infant bed. and lots of ways to combine gentle attentive parenting and co-sleeping. owning one does not equal detatchment or CIO. generally I would rock mine to sleep and lay them down. they weren't going to fall on the floor, get stepped on or bounced on by sibblings. It also gave her a quiet little sanctuary in which to sleep. Quite a blessing in our home. i also know co-sleepers who do cio. It is just as easy to leave your baby in your bed screaming as it a crib. where your child sleeps has no bearing on how they get to sleep.</div>
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I do not wish to derail this thread because the poster is looking for information. I do believe we at MDC support and encourage cosleeping (wherever possible) and thi being a new poster, I felt compelled to advocate for gentle sleeping. I do not believe "it is just as easy to CIO in a shared bed as in a crib", that is my opinion, I have seen many parents use the crib as a way to "separate" from baby at night. I commend Abigal'smomSarah for breastfeeding all through the night with a baby in the crib, I just haven't seen much of that. In my experience it is easier to separate from the baby at night with the baby <i>physically</i> separated through the night.<br><br>
I truly hope this poster finds a comfortable sleeping arrangement for herself and the baby.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I do not wish to derail this thread because the poster is looking for information. I do believe we at MDC support and encourage cosleeping (wherever possible) and thi being a new poster, I felt compelled to advocate for gentle sleeping. I do not believe "it is just as easy to CIO in a shared bed as in a crib", that is my opinion, I have seen many parents use the crib as a way to "separate" from baby at night. I commend Abigal'smomSarah for breastfeeding all through the night with a baby in the crib, I just haven't seen much of that. In my experience it is easier to separate from the baby at night with the baby <i>physically</i> separated through the night.<br><br>
I truly hope this poster finds a comfortable sleeping arrangement for herself and the baby.</div>
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I've seen and touched a number of mini-cribs but the biggest thing I noticed was that they seemed to be so shoddy, poorly made and unsafe (it freaks me out when you shake a crib and it seems like it's going to fall apart - mind you, many normal sized cribs do that, too) BUT the third one looks and sounds like it is probably a high quality product.<br><br>
One thing to consider is that on the mini and portable cribs that I have seen, the mattresses were just made of 100% foam, which means that plenty of harmful dangerous chemicals are wafting up into your babies face. I don't know if there are any futon companies or natural baby mattress companies who would custom make a small sized mattress for you, but I'm guessing that might be pretty expensive.<br><br>
We used cribs when our DC were young and when they were infants, and they also co-slept with us. I found the bassinet, the cradle and the crib to be extremely useful for naptimes. We also had cats and were more confident putting sleeping babies in cribs than onto our bed when we weren't in there with them. That said, one of our babies was a light sleeper and by 6 months, seemed bothered sleeping in between us, would always be waking up, yet when he was put in the crib next to us, he'd sleep happily. I did nurse throughout the night for both children (every two hours, for years! I was exhausted!), and I would immediately wake up when I heard my son wake, it would rarely if ever get to a cry before I got to him. I'm a light sleeper too. On the other hand, our daughter has still not left our bed (she had her moments) at almost 5. It's much easier to nurse through the night when baby is in the bed with you. Sometimes you don't even need to wake up, your baby feeds him/herself. That is so great.... And all that getting up even to go get my son just a couple or few feet away (never more than 10, often 1) really is much harder than co-sleeping while nursing.<br><br>
You could always try getting a co-sleeper and put it right beside your bed at night. <a href="http://www.armsreach.com/" target="_blank">http://www.armsreach.com/</a> You could always move it into the murphy bed area during the day. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
ETA: Oh look at that, a mini-crib Arms Reach cosleeper! <a href="http://www.armsreach.com/product_sleigh.asp" target="_blank">http://www.armsreach.com/product_sleigh.asp</a>
 

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we had a small co-sleeper crib that attached to our bed. It was actually a pack-n-play with a special higher-up mattress holder. see: <a href="http://co-sleeper.babycatalog.com/co-sleepers/original-beside-co-sleeper-with-bassinet-and-short-liner-8133bs" target="_blank">http://co-sleeper.babycatalog.com/co...t-liner-8133bs</a><br>
I didn't have any trouble finding bedding for it, and I think it was about 40 X 28. So you may want to choose one that will use the standard size bedding for co-sleeper beds. I loved this co-sleeper arrangement because dd was close, but not in my bed, which I preferred due to space limitations.<br><br>
ETA : I had my browser window open for a while, so missed the last post. The arms reach co sleeper is the one we had. It's hard to tell in the photos, but there is actually a little wall separating the crib from the bed. A little disappointing for me, I thought it would be flat all the way across. But it still worked out great if you want something attached to the bed. It would not work as a stand-alone crib, if I recall correctly, but again bedding was easily available for that size.
 

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I'm tempted to list all the ways I'm an incredible mother, but should I?! No.<br><br>
There are aspects of AP that don't fit in with everyone's lifestyle. Co-sleeping is that aspect for us.<br><br>
To answer a valid ?: our cats haven't gotten into her bassinet yet, so I'm not worried about the crib. Putting a mattress on the floor with a barrier would make me worry about the cats. Crying it out: I did mention we live in 600 sq feet, even if I did allow dd to CIO, we'd go insane! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
Please just know that not all families subscribe to the same principles as you might, but if I'm a member for this board, there's a chance I'm a pretty damn good mom.<br><br>
thanks to all of you for your advice!
 
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