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I feel as if my Mother rights have been violated! Today I took my 2 month old for his check up.. I knew they were going to give him shots.. But I had decided that I was going to only give him 2 this time around.. I wanted to delay them he isnt going to be in school for what 5 years! ANyhow I get there and I am talking to the dr and told him my concerns and told him I play to only have 2 of them done etc.. He asked me why. I told him why and my reasons.. WELL this dr had the nerve to tell me it was in my sons best intrest to call CPS on me if he doesnt get his shots today! I tried ot explain to this man I wasnt saying he wasnt going to get them I just didnt want them all at once and there were some I wasnt going to allow him to have.. So by this time I am crying and soo PISSED off I couldnt talk! I sat there for 45 min just staring at this man. I could not believe he was going ot call cps on me if I did not give my child all his shots that day! SO needless to say he got his shots today as tears streamed down my face and down my sons face! I feel like a bad mama.. I feel as if my rights have been taken away. I feel bullied.. .. I just needed to vent and share my not so happy story! What is this world coming to when Mothers cant be in charge of thier childs welfare.
 

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I am so sorry this happened!<br>
I am sure others here will have advice but first of all you should never go back to that bullying lying [email protected]@rd ever again! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/censored.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="censored"><br><br>
Your rights were violated and you were indeed bullied.
 

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If you tell me where you are, I will call CPS/DSHS and find out what would have happened if he had done that.<br>
I'd suggest you call, but I wouldn't want you to get bullied again by them.<br>
I find the unknown very scary, and I'd need to know what exactly the doctor was threatening.<br>
The next step might be the medical ethics board. He was basically threatening you with the loss of your baby, and I don't think that should be taken lightly. He should be reprimanded by other doctors for his assholery.<br>
I believe you, but I just cannot believe him.
 

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I don't know what to say! I am not anti vax (my kids have had almost all of them) but that is just wrong. You need to call someone and report him! THat is total crap. He did worse than BULLY you in my opinion. <b>Throwing the threat around of calling CPS on someone is NOT to be taken lightly</b>. They would had to have my foot surgically removed from his ass. (not that it would have been the right thing to do but boy I would have felt better) I am not angry at you poster I am so mad at someone who would so obviously and callously (sp) <b>ABUSE HIS POSITION OF AUTHORITY.</b> I hope that you are feeling better. I know you did what you thought was the right thing to do and please don't be too hard on yourself. Take that sadness and guilt you are feeling and turn it into something constructive. Call you local health department and find out their guidelines, call the hospital and find out theirs, arm yourself with some knowledge and then write a complaint on this guy! What a jerk!
 

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I feel outraged for you! There is no harm in spreading out your vaccinations over multiple visits and many, many parents choose to do this. What your doc did is unethical and just plain wrong! Obviously I would never take my child back to this doc.<br><br>
Now that my rant is over, I want you to know that you should not feel at all guilty over what happened. You went in there with a great plan and when somebody with authority like that shakes your confidence, it's impossible to stand your ground. Lots of <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> to you and your babe. Also, know that ds will most likely be just fine anyway (not that that takes away any of your anger).
 

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Christymama,<br><br>
I am so sorry for you! That makes me so angry I can hardley stand it! That is so absolutely unethical and it seems to me it should be illegal... especially in a state that recognizes philosophical exemption! Please don't berate yourself for what happened... I would have been absolutely terrified if I were you and I completely understand how you felt like you just needed to get out of there! Please never go back to this doctor! Find out about reporting him... and let us know if there is anything that we can do! That jerk shouldn't have a medical license!
 

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Thanks Mamas! I do feel better but there is still a pit in my stomach. I hate that. I dont think I will ever be able to trust a dr again ya know.. Its not the point of my son getting vax'd He was going to get most of them anyhow. The point was my rights as a mother was taken away in snap.. I didnt see what was wrong with a few today and a few next month etc. The way he dismissed my reasons of wanting to delay them and space them out.. the way he told me that it was going to be the best intrest in my son to call CPS on me.. All for what.. For a mother who LOVES her child who wants her child to stay healthy.. But it wasnt on his terms. And he couldnt understand why I wanted to wait. Thats what pisses me off. You can bet I am going to find a new dr.. I did break under his threat. I should of stood strong.. I dont know maybe I still have pregnancy hormones left trying to work its way out. But i just stood there crying. I am going to be writting a complaint on him.. I came home and told dh who was HOT! He was so mad.. He is a State police officer and said CPS would of came in our home and taken him away when the crack head lady down the street still has her kids.. He has seen what they do. Its a sad day when the good guys dont win. I think something needs to be done and I am going to find a way to get it done! Thanks for your support mamas I really truley thank each and every one of you. I knew I could find comfort here. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I'm so hoping mad reading this, I could just spit. I'm not in the US but I think your rights have been abused and badly so. I understand breaking under pressure because that is what happened to me when my six yr dd went in a couple of months ago and she was screaming and being held down by two health nurses getting her shots. I couldn't get words in edgewise and that is when I started researching vax. I wanted to grab those two ladies and...well I let it go but never, NEVER again I will fight to what ever end. Nobody should be bullied, in my mind bullying(sp?) doesn't just happen to kids. I think you should find out what legal rights you have and do what you have to do, but don't let it go. Give your self a hug, and know if you need help there are a lot of people here who probably can help you. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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That was an absolute abuse of his authority, and I would never return to that office again. I would also make sure that he knew why you were never returning.<br><br>
Our ped is pro-vax, but she absolutely supports the parent's right to make decisions about their children. Yes, she does pressure me a bit (pertussis is going around, etc. etc.), but nothing like that.<br><br>
I know it is near impossible to do at the moment, but taking a step back now, what the heck was CPS really going to do? So he calls them. Says you are only giving a few vaxes. Um, yeah, so they're going to barge into your house and remove your children? Puhleez. That doctor is a monster, and not only do I hate him personally without even having met him, I would never be able to trust his medical opinion again. I wish there was a way to report him to the medical board for what he did.
 

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I have been in your shoes. I wish I had known more about the laws at the time. My VAX INJURED son is the one I had this battle with. It was "no we will not do one at a time your choice is all today or have cps and the police at the door waiting for you" And I was in the process of looking for a new ped because this guy was very anti Ap and he still calls CPS on homeschoolers!<br><br>
I understand how much you were shaken. Too bad you couldn't have threatened back with "Let's call my husband first and ask him about you calling CPS after all he is a State Police Officer" Bet that would have made him back down LOL<br><br>
Make sure you file your complaint with both the local and national branches of the AMA .<br>
Hell I would tell the idget I will be holding him responsible for any reactions that may arise and any ensuing medical bills ( not that they will but...))<br><br>
And he forgot two very important things<br><br>
YOU are the parent and this is YOUR decision YOUR child not His.<br><br>
HE is YOUR employee. You are paying him for a service !<br><br><br>
CPS may not have been too bad since your dh is a PO (ok ok but sometimes they will tread very carefully with situations like that)<br><br>
Can you report him for a threat too?
 

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that is so unethical I can't even breathe.<br><br>
what an asshole. By the way, it is for this exact reason that I don't encourage anyone to get into it about their reasons for delaying with a doctor. They are too dismissive and some can be hostile...as witnessed here.<br><br>
hugs. delay until you are ready.<br><br>
I'd definitely complain to a medical board. But that is me.
 

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Unfortunately as more and more vaccines are being brought on the market, more parents will question the necessity. And the authority will use exactly that kind of force and those types of threats. Only in America! No other industrialized country in the world is mandating this kind of injections for their children.<br><br>
Why are we being forced to inject like that? Injecting drugs into the body will make the child dependent on the pharmaceutical companies all his/her life. The pharmaceutical companies profit tremendously from that need. Those injections are the cause of asthma, diabetes, rheumatism, ADHD, and a myriad of other disease which were comlpetely unknown before mass vaccination.<br><br>
Read the thread "Why Vaccination Continues".<br><br>
The only way to stop this madness is to stop going to pediatricians who push vaccines. Go to a family doctor for a general check up now and then and keep track of the illnesses your child has, how you treat him/her, and how soon they recuperate.<br><br>
What is happening to our freedoms? When a mother can not refuse drug injections into her child's blood stream, there is something seriously wrong. And do not doubt it for one moment, vaccines are serious drugs with serious consequences. There is nothing natural about it. It is not science nor has it ever stood the scrutiny of any scientific test. It only serves to corrupt the body and make you dependent on more pharmaceutical products.
 

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Report him ASAP, draft a letter, or get a lawyer to draft a letter, and if you can find the courage - sue the SOB.<br><br>
I never suggest suing, but he bullied you into this, he took away your rights as a parent, and your childs rights. He threatened you, he harrased you, his butt needs to wind up in court. If anything happens to your child because of this bullying, HE needs to be held responsible.<br><br><b>And this is a mommy lesson for the books. Do not feel guilty - we all get to learn a few of them the hard way, but do use it as a learning experience. If anything remotely happens like this again. YOU PICK UP YOUR CHILD, GIVE THAT SOB THE FINGER, (if you have a free hand, you may also moon him <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/moon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="moon"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> )<br><span style="font-size:x-large;">DARE HIM TO CALL CPS</span> AND <span style="font-size:300%;">LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><br><br>
This man did not have your child's best intrests in mind, he had his convenience in mind.</b> Having all the shots on one day or spread out with a week between is all the same when it comes to your child's well being, but it is a pain in the dr's ass and many don't care for the inconvenience. I say screw them! Besides, depending on your state, you have the right to refuse under philosophical and religious reasons.<br><br>
Edited to add: How can CPS be called on this issue, when it is our right to decline vax under religious reasons, and philosophical reasons in some lucky states? Not that anyone would want to wish dealing with CPS into their lives, but I didn't think this could be considered neglect - especially when she said she just wanted to space them out...
 

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I'm so mad for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pm me with that dr's name and # and I promise I'll give him an earfull! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
 

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PPS Most importantly:<br><br>
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(sorry I left that out)<br><br>
HITH <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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Why should she keep it a secret? I mean his name is in the phone book and I am sure he has a web site. <b>Send us the link to his site.</b> There is no harm in posting his site.<br><br>
I am mad, too. I want to send some information to his office.<br><br>
After all, we are here to support each other.
 

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OMG! I am soooooo mad for you. For all parents who chose to do what they feel is best for their child...whatever that may be regarding vax. That is just too much. An absolute abuse of power.<br><br>
I'm wondering, and someone here may know, is there anything on the NVIC site regarding how to handle such situations?<br><br>
I feel so badly for how you were treated today. Both you and your child. That is just atrocious. At the same time, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for coming in here and sharing your story to help those of us who have not yet dealt with such things. I hope to never be in the position you were in today, but should I ever be, I will do my utmost to put such people back in their place. As someone said, THEY work for YOU.<br><br>
Hugs to you and yours.<br>
Danielle
 

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First off, <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">s. I completely understand that moment of "you know you should do something, say something, but just can't."<br><br>
Secondly, I'd sue. Dh and I agree that has to be assault, harassment, and not to mention violation of parent's rights. I'd have his license revoked, at the least. There's no way a mad man like that.. around kids and infants... [email protected]? A complete case made to the medical board. I'm so mad, everything is coming out choppy... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/splat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="splat"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/Cuss.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="cuss"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/censored.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="censored"><br><br>
What is wrong with people? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"> What really gets me is that you were willing to vax, just on your terms. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: If he's so happy about those <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/censored.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="censored"> vaxes, why doesn't he shoot himself up where the sun don't shine <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/inthet.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="inthet">?<br><br>
*sigh*<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/dust.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="dust"> sending positive vibes for you and healing energy for your son...
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">s I am beyond pissed at that <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/censored.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="censored"> doc that is horrid! Please report him to the board and switch docs. No one should ever be made to feel that way, that is abuse of power and he violated your rights. I no longer vax at all and I've never been attacked that way!<br><br>
I would call cps yourself to warn them that this doctor is using their office to force parents into medical compliance. In the state of TX they recently made it illegal to call cps for delaying/selectively or not at all vaccinating and it's illegal for someone to falsely report you just because of that. I would check the laws of your state to see if he even can call on you.
 

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That is horrifying! I am so, so incredibly sorry you went through that. Do anything and everything in your power to make that dr sorry. I don't know what else to say..that's just awful..
 
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