So what are the statistics

Anyone????

WOW thank you mama

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I assure you cleaning it is really easy. You do NOTHING! Don't think it gets any eaiser then that. Who would make fun of him? It's not like he is going to be walking around unclothed

THE PROPER WAY TO CARE FOR THE INTACT FORESKIN:

Wash it like u would a finger, just wipe it off.
NEVER RETRACT IT OR PULL BACK ON IT EVEN A TINY LITTLE BIT, NEVER ALLOW ANY ONE ELSE TO DO SO FOR ANY REASON.
The End.

If there is an especially icky diaper and it has gotten all over then a nice bath would be great following the instructions on bathing below) there is a sphincter(muscle) on the tip of the foreskin that stays very tight unless he is peeing so it would be very difficult for anything to get truly up in there. If something were to the next time he peed it would be washed out.

Nothing could be simpler.

When u give him a bath u can just swish it around a bit in the water, avoid soaps because they can cause irritation if he is sitting in the bath(much like some woman have trouble if they sit in bubble bath)

When he is older and retraction starts to happen he can choose to pull it back rinse and replace. Even this is not totally needed if he dosnt want to. It is a self cleaning body part just like the female vagina. He will prolly figure it out on his own to

Read the Sticky at the top of the forum titled A Warning To Parents Of Intact Sons to learn how to protect your little one from ignorent dr's. And be sure to hang out here and read, read, read. I love this place if it wasnt for here my ds would have been hurt by a dr not once but twice.

As far as being teased that prolly will never happen but if it does, and that is a big if considering how many intact boys/men are around now, teach him what to say as a come back. Like "What are u doing looking at my *insert your word here*, or "At least mine wasnt cut on". Something along those lines. Me and dh had this same conversation the other night. I told him I will teach my son and my daughter to be proud of their body and all its parts because that is how God made him. So that if someone makes fun of any part of his body he will know they are not very bright.

Ditto to the above. I have an intact son and an intact daughter and believe me, when the breastmilk blowout poops make an appearance, it is MUCH easier to keep a baby boy clean! I wouldn't cut off any of my daughter's labia to make cleaning easier (or my own for that matter!), so why would I cut my son??

The foreskin is bonded to the glans (head) of the penis exactly like the fingernail is bonded to the finger. Poop just doesn't get up in there. Urine (which is sterile) rinses out the very end of the penis when it makes its exit. No one should EVER retract a boy for cleaning. That will rip away the natural adhesions (think ripping a fingernail off) and raise the risk of infection and scarring. When the boy becomes naturally retractable, at anywhere up to and through puberty, he can retract, rinse, and replace the foreskin himself. Boys don't really get smelly until puberty either, just like girls.

Check out this website: www.oknocirc.blogspot.com

You're wise to get dh on the same page with you before you conceive! He is probably also afraid to think about what he might be missing, so you will want to assure him that you love him just the way he is but you don't want to perform unnecessary surgery on your ds.

here's a cute little link http://www.post-gazette.com/healthsc...990316cut4.asp

and some statistics (although not current I went ahead and did the math for you to show an estimation with the current rate of decline, for circumcision in america) From 1993 to 2003, circumcision rates have declined from 63.5 percent to 55.9 percent
(which makes them approximatly 54% right now overall)

from: http://www.thebody.com/cdc/news_upda...cumcision.html
(warning site above does site that circ reduces chances of AIDS etc which is an UNTruth)

But really, depending on where you live, circ rates vary. In the west, circ rates hold steady at about 30% meaning, out of 100 boys, only THIRTY of them are mutilated. That means, if you live in the west, and you circ, your boy's penis is in the MINORITY! in florida, the current rate is 35% leaving the hospital circ'ed, since medicaid stopped funding it, so ditto for us floridians, if you mutilate your son, he will be a MAJOR minority once he's old enough to supposedly care.

hth
Misty

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Ummmmmmmmm Wouldn't that be "out of 100 boys, only thirty of them are mutilated."

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1-15% rate of complication is what most medical associations will cop to. So I think its safe to say that its at LEAST 15% since people have a tendancy to want to cover their butts (not just Dr's).

And you know its all good and fine to talk about statistics but once you are the parent with the child that has that 1 in 500,000 or 1 in a 1,000,000 disease or accident or complication statistics mean NOTHING. And I suspect they would mean less than nothing when that complication was the result of needless cosmetic surgery that you (or your husband) consented to on a helpless newborn.

If you've got him feeling queasy about it I'd say you're on the right track!!

Casey

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Right On Momma!(to be.... ) Good luck with your dh. They sometimes need a little nudge, but most of them come around

If you are looking for any more info, there is a sticky at the top of the forum with some really good stuff in it called "Web Resources" or, of course, ask away!

Good luck TTC!
Tara

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GREAT point! The major damage I got was with a re-circ, and they CAUSED it by meddling with it in the first place.

Another thing is, I think that the complication rates that the medical associations will admit to are only the more immediate variety. Some problems caused by circ don't manifest themselves until later ages.

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Personally, I would recommend not ever putting that kind of compromise on the table, even if you can't imagine him being willing to do such a thing. Adamant father's who are having trouble facing what was done to them can feel pretty desperate and may go to lengths you never imagined.

Also, dh's have been known to say they'll be there, and then back out/disappear at the last minute...putting momma's on the spot to stand up to the doctor and say "No." and then deal with a angry dh in the midst of everything else...

The potential for resentment and having the whole thing backfire in this set-up is significant, either way.

Jen

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this may be true but if i have my baby in a hosp. my baby will not be left alone EVER without mom or dad! so if he backs out i get my way

i dont care if i have a mad DH. to many baby get swapped in hosps!