[Honey693]

Another thread got me thinking on this. What are somethings I should absolutely avoid giving DD (we have no family allergies to any food)? Her doctor said from now until a year no dairy except yogurt, no honey, nothing with small seeds, nothing that's a chocking hazard and no pb. That's all. But I keep seeing no citrus, no egg whites, etc and now I'm just incredibly confused.

 

[nj's_mom]

I second this!

 

[murphysaangel]

I don't know if there's a clear answer - but certainly a lot of opinions! My son's ped said anything was fine after 9 months except honey and pb. We try everything in small doses, anyway, and we also have no history of food allergies. There's only so much my LO will even TRY. I'd say your best bet is to listen to your hcp.

 

[riverscout]

The AAP changed their guidelines last year about starting solids which I think has caused some confusion. They no longer advise delaying the introduction of foods that are common allergens like dairy and eggs unless there is a family history of allergies.

The only thing I know of that is to be avoided across the board is honey due to the botulism risk and choking hazards. The advice to not introduce cow's milk is mostly to avoid the possibility that it substitutes for mother's milk or formula. Yogurt should be limited for this reason as well but is supposed to okay in moderation for babies that are not at high risk for allergies.

 

[gagin37]

i really like this http://http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/solids2.htm chart, and tend to use it as my guide line for feeding ds.

 

[frontierpsych]

I am limiting most allergens because of DS's eczema and a family history of allergies. At just under 8 months old, he's had everything from saurkraut to bison without any issues.

 

[rachel7628]

As far as I know, the problem with citrus is that is can cause nasty acidic bowel movements which can be painful and cause horrible diaper rash. But, most babies are probably fine with moderate amounts.

Like a PP said, most baby stomachs can't handle the amount of botulism in honey until they're about a year old.

The rest of it is probably just over-caution for allergenic foods. Use your own instincts on when and if to introduce stuff. We plan to wait until a year, but we also have allergies on both sides of the family.

 

[rightkindofme]

My daughter got her hands on a clementine piece when she was ~9 months old and she looked like that was better than Christmas. We stopped limiting citrus then.

At 11 months old we haven't given her actual milk but we are giving her lots of dairy. We have already done whole eggs because we are too lazy to keep separating her breakfast from ours.

: She hasn't had any meat because I don't want to deal with stinky carnivore poop thanyouverymuch. No honey and no nuts of any kind. Other than that she eats what we eat. She even likes food that is spicier than many adults can handle.

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[Elismum]

My understanding as with a PP is that the only thing you really have to avoid is honey, unless there is a history of allergies. We gave egg whites very early on (8 mos?) and peanut butter early, too. The thinking now is that delaying these foods could actually cause allergies. Just give small amounts and watch for reactions.

 

[crosscat]

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Originally Posted by gagin37 i really like this http://http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/solids2.htm chart, and tend to use it as my guide line for feeding ds.

We have this on the fridge at my house, so my DH (the chef of the family) can refer to it.

 

[sapphire_chan]

I'm not worrying about cooked honey. Like if I added a bit of honey to my tea, I'll let her have a sip.

We are avoiding peanuts because I have this vague memory of reading that American peanuts have some kind of mold that might be the true cause of some of the peanut allergies.

: Really, I eat enough peanut products (mmm, candy bars) that she's been exposed to the proteins.

Because we're ECing and I don't want to get up a million times a night, she only gets limited amounts of diuretics. Melon is a morning food, tyvm.

Oh, and she's had kiwi. Did your doctor say why no small seeds? I gave her pieces with most of the seeds out, but she had a few in her poop.

 

[riverscout]

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Originally Posted by sapphire_chan I'm not worrying about cooked honey. Like if I added a bit of honey to my tea, I'll let her have a sip.

Cooked honey is not recommended for infants either since botulism spores can survive high heat.

 

[Honey693]

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Originally Posted by sapphire_chan Oh, and she's had kiwi. Did your doctor say why no small seeds? I gave her pieces with most of the seeds out, but she had a few in her poop.

I have no idea why no small seeds. I was thinking she meant apple seeds, orange seeds, etc. I didn't even think kiwi.

 

[nj's_mom]

Thanks for that link!

 

[sapphire_chan]

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Originally Posted by Crystal_R I have no idea why no small seeds. I was thinking she meant apple seeds, orange seeds, etc. I didn't even think kiwi.

Oh, that sort of small. Yeah, those and melon seeds I clear out.

 

[sapphire_chan]

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Originally Posted by riverscout Cooked honey is not recommended for infants either since botulism spores can survive high heat.

Ah, well then, good thing I haven't actually given her any yet. Hmm, that'd explain why pasteurized honey is a concern.

ETA, hmm, is pasteurized honey a concern... Googling...

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs270/en/

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The toxin is destroyed by normal cooking processes (heating at >85C for five minutes or boiling for a few minutes).

So in tea is bad unless I put the honey in the water as it's boiling, but baklava would be a-okay.

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Infant botulism is rare. It occurs when infants ingest spores, which germinate to produce bacteria that reproduce in the gut and release the toxin. In most adults and children older than about six months, this would not happen because the natural defences that develop over time prevent the germination and growth of Clostridium botulinum.

Looks like we're in the clear.

Not going to give her any home canned low acid vegetables though.

Okay not going to give her a ton of honey, but I'm not worrying about it anymore.

 

[LadyCatherine185]

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Originally Posted by riverscout The AAP changed their guidelines last year about starting solids which I think has caused some confusion. They no longer advise delaying the introduction of foods that are common allergens like dairy and eggs unless there is a family history of allergies.

Does anyone have a link to that?

 

[riverscout]

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Originally Posted by LadyCatherine185 Does anyone have a link to that?

Here's a few links I had bookmarked:

http://www.aap.org/publiced/BR_Solids.htm
http://foodallergies.about.com/od/ad...elaysolids.htm
http://kidshealth.org/PageManager.js...ic=44&cat_id=5
http://www.marchofdimes.com/pnhec/298_29654.asp
http://aappolicy.aappublications.org...rics;121/1/183
http://www.kidswithfoodallergies.org...pre.php?id=108

 

[LadyCatherine185]

Here is a quote from that first link--

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When can my baby start eating solid foods? Most babies are ready to eat solid foods at 4 to 6 months of age. Before this age instead of swallowing the food, they push their tongues against the spoon or the food. This tongue-pushing reflex is necessary when they are breastfeeding or drinking from a bottle. Most babies stop doing this at about 4 months of age. Energy needs of babies begin to increase around this age as well, making this a good time to introduce solids.

It says 4-6 months!

 

[Honey693]

In January 2008, the American Academy of Pediatrics reversed its stance on delaying the introduction of common allergens like dairy, eggs, and nuts, stating that there was "no current convincing evidence that delaying their introduction beyond [the age of four to six months] has a significant protective effect on the development of atopic disease."

This means that, contrary to earlier recommendations, it is now the AAP's stance that dairy, eggs, peanuts, tree nuts, and seafood are safe to introduce to your baby at the same time you introduce other foods. As always, however, your allergist or pediatrician is the best source for specific recommendations for your family.

This was off one of those links posted earlier. Does that mean pb is ok earlier than 2 now? Why is this so confusing???????????????