Spin Off: The difference between Conservative and RWC

I don't quite understand the question....but want to be a part of the thread somehow.

Maybe I should just lurk.

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LOL, im with the PP, off to b-day dinner for MIL but will sub now

Since there are varying degrees of fundamentalism/belief within any given religion, if one considers oneself part of that religion how 'liberal' they are within it is only the business of those also within it. But when their beliefs extend to policy/politics, then that's right-wing. Or is it possible to separate it like that? Did that make sense or speak to the question in the OP?


Okay, lurky.....

That's a pretty interesting question. I can tell you my inlaws are pretty hard line catholics, and I was shocked to hear they vote liberally, because even though they are prolife, they feel that some of the conservative takes on social issues to be wrong and in some ways the lack of support for poor families actually leads to more abortions. I was really impressed by that, I guess it is my bias that made me not think that you were one or the other! :

Okay, I edited for clarity I hope...basically I want to know if it is just right wing Christians (who I believe are also right on the Christian spectrum) who bug people or if other right wing combinations do too...such as being a fundamental Jew and conservative?

Hope that clarifies...snowy I've got to go eat but will return later and answer I know you are breathlessly awaiting my response :LOL

Jenne

Going to : 'cause this thread will git dis gurl in trouble! :LOL

it depends what they're right-wing about. pro-lifers don't bug me obviously except the militant ones. if they're right-wing on welfare reform then that gets on my nerves, regardless of what religion they're coming from.

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yay another atheist pro-lifer

It isn't the combo of religious/conservative that bothers me, nor religious OR conservativeness, it's fanaticism that kills me.

I'm an atheist and pro-choice. Liberal, Democrat. I occasionally chat on an atheist forum where there are conservatives who believe in spanking, CIO, social darwinsim, and a host of other weird beliefs. They are completely fanatical about them too. It's either their way or the ditch. Oh, drives me bonkers.

TRUE fundamentalists don't bother me at all I' m a fundie atheist

I'm a conservative Christian libertarian and I offend wherever I go :

Glad to see the discussion off to a good start...I'd like to ask some more questions about points that were made:

1) So snowy, was your first point, that as long as you keep things to yourself beliefs are okay, but when you extend them to politics it stops being okay for you? If that is true, is that with any religious influence or just Christianity? Sorry I just read your follow up post. Okay, it bugs you. About anything religious based or just things that you disagree with? I'm not trying to push any buttons, just sort of flesh this out...If, for instance, we look at the laws pertaining to murder how does that sit with you?

2) PottyDiva what, via your own definitions (please supply them so we'll all be playing with the same ideas ) is the difference between fundamentalism and fanaticism? Is ALL fanaticism a bad thing or only certain brands/types of it?

3) PottyDiva could please elaborate on the Catholic vs. Protestant reference in regards to denial of things such as respect? I'm a little confused. Do you mean in the US or another country? Please elaborate.



Jenne

Townmouse I'm a conservative libertarian/liberal Christian and I offend whereever I go


Jenne

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'Keeping things to yourself' would be better phrased as keeping your religious beliefs out of the personal lives of others, and leaving 'moral' choices up to an individual's conscience-- if they choose vice, it's their problem. Religious influence in general, if diverse, I think opens up a dialogue which can be beneficial--now for example.
If, for example, the gov't was taken over by fundamentalist Buddhists who wanted to force everyone to meditate and have compassion, that would bug me too.
As for murder---that isn't illegal because the ten commandments state thou shalt not kill. We don't need religion to tell us we shouldn't kill each other.
Although, strangely, outspoken religious people seem fond of capital punishment, and war....
Religion and common sense 'morality' are two seperate issues.