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<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/18/politics/18medicare.html?th&emc=th" target="_blank">States Protest Contributions to Drug Plan</a><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Seems Bush is looking out for his fellow Pharm friends...<br><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/09/politics/main672607.shtml?CMP=ILC-SearchStories" target="_blank">link</a><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Lawmakers used the revised estimate to revive proposals to allow drug importation from Canada and to let the federal government negotiate drug prices. Both are now forbidden.</td>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">"Any attempt to limit the choices of our seniors and to take away their prescription drug coverage under Medicare will meet my veto," Mr. Bush said at a swearing-in ceremony for Mike O. Leavitt, the new secretary of Health and Human Services.</td>
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Wow, I'm old enough to remember the days when Big Business didn't need the government to enforce its monopolies for it.
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Participants must pay monthly premiums that are expected to average $35 in 2006.<br><br><br>
The participants must pay out of their pockets the first $250 in pharmacy bills.<br><br><br>
Medicare will then pick up 75 percent of the next $2,000 in prescription expenses.<br><br><br><b>Then a gap is built into coverage, during which participants must pay all drug costs until the total tops $5,100.</b><br><br><br>
The government will then pay 95 percent of prescription bills above $5,100 a year.</td>
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From MITB link.<br><br>
That coverage looks like garbage anyway.<br><br>
And am I understanding this right?? Once it reaches $2000 they have to pay EVERYTHING out of pocket until it reaches $5,100??<br><br>
So, there is $420 a year in premiums. They pay the first $250. = $670<br><br>
Then they pay another $438 in co-pay for the $1750 that is covered (2000-250 deductible.)<br><br>
Then they pay the next $3100 out of pocket before the government picks up again. So they will pay $4,208 A YEAR before (while the government only pays like 1300) before their prescriptions costs are picked up at a reasonable rate.<br><br>
Please tell me I have this completely wrong, because if I don't I really don't see how the government is helping anyone at all.
 

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aniT, I think you're right. So, if the coverage is so crappy, then what the heck do they need so much money from the state governments for? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">aniT, I think you're right. So, if the coverage is so crappy, then what the heck do they need so much money from the state governments for? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:</div>
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Because a lot of our seniors/elders require too many drugs. And now there is a new bill saying that ALL seniors on Medicaid have to be vaccinated or else they will lose benefits...it's in another thread in News and Current Events here.<br><br>
And on the Vaccinations forum, there is a thread showing the ridiculous amount of money it costs to be vaccinated...like one flu shot is now $18, and that is just the cost of the shot, not paying the nurse who gives the shot.<br><br>
Yeah, the whole thing is upsetting.
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>MamaInTheBoonies</strong></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">Because a lot of our seniors/elders require too many drugs. And now there is a new bill saying that ALL seniors on Medicaid have to be vaccinated or else they will lose benefits...it's in another thread in News and Current Events here.<br><br>
And on the Vaccinations forum, there is a thread showing the ridiculous amount of money it costs to be vaccinated...like one flu shot is now $18, and that is just the cost of the shot, not paying the nurse who gives the shot.<br><br>
Yeah, the whole thing is upsetting.</div>
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WTH!!!!!! This isn’t something that has been passed has it? That is just total crap!! I don't think it will/can be passed. It is unconstitutional. I gotta run now but I will look up the other threads later.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">WTH!!!!!! This isn’t something that has been passed has it? That is just total crap!! I don't think it will/can be passed. It is unconstitutional. I gotta run now but I will look up the other threads later.</div>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/yeahthat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="yeah that">: That's BS!!
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>tayndrewsmama</strong></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/yeahthat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="yeah that">: That's BS!!</div>
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My bad, it was in Vaccinations....<br><a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=3964159#post3964159" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...59#post3964159</a>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">WTH!!!!!! This isn’t something that has been passed has it? That is just total crap!! I don't think it will/can be passed. It is unconstitutional. I gotta run now but I will look up the other threads later.</div>
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I bumped the OP in Vaccinations forum, not sure if the article in that link is still good, but at least you can read about it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Oh, that is an old thread. I even posted on it. My understanding was that NURSING homes who did not give flu shots to their residents would be kicked out of the Medicare program, not the patients. It also said that the family can refuse the vaccine for medical reason. I never did find out if other exemptions were accepted. They probably are, but as usual the PTB don't want you to know about them so they don't mention them in articles like this.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I bumped the OP in Vaccinations forum, not sure if the article in that link is still good, but at least you can read about it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></div>
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Link doesn't work anymore either. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>tayndrewsmama</strong></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">Link doesn't work anymore either. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"></div>
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Yeah, I was trying to use google to see about it, but nothing, yet...I'll try the Medicaid site and see if I can find anything. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 
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