[mamamoo]

Hello, all three of my kids have strep throat. We are treating with antibiotics because I didn't know what else to do. Is there a natural remedy for ST, I will definately need something if I get it, as I am pregnant and do not want to take an AB while preg.Also, does anyone know what causes strep, is it just passed from someone that has it, or can you get it from an imbalance in the body?
TIA~Debi

 

[fourgrtkidos]

IMHO, Homeopathic Belladonna 30c (or better yet 200c but you have to order it, can't get this strength in health food store) can help prevent you from getting Strep Throat and help ease it once you do.

 

[menudo]

I once dug online (while battling my constant strep) and their is a natural remedy called strep throat forumla, if I can find the link I will post. It is hard to come by.

But for all bronchial issues I recommend UMCKA-the stuff is a miracle. If the strep is reoccuring NIX the antibiotics after this, I learned (after YEARS of suffering) a few changes/supplements can be a cure. I took the antibiotics and just got worse and worse and can't really tolerate any of them anymore...

 

[BusyMommy]

We use BElladonna, too, if the kids have a high fevers, red faces, and are in pain.

I've started using Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) for any kind of throat issue. Works great. Tastes horrid. But, I'm prone to bad sore throats and it completely takes it away. THey do recommend it for strep, but I have no experience.

 

[mamamoo]

Great info! Thanks mamas!! For the GSE, how do you take it? Do you put a couple of drops in water?
TIA!!

 

[Gitti]

Raising a Healthy Child in spite of your Doctor

by Dr. Mendelsohn - the most credible doctor I have ever heard about.

BTW he says strep throat does NOT require antibiotics. It will only turn it into a more permanent illness. But please read exactly what he says in his book. I did not "quote" him here.

...and I don't have the book handy, dd has it...

 

[mamamoo]

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Originally Posted by Gitti Raising a Healthy Child in spite of your Doctor by Dr. Mendelsohn - the most credible doctor I have ever heard about. BTW he says strep throat does NOT require antibiotics. It will only turn it into a more permanent illness. But please read exactly what he says in his book. I did not "quote" him here. ...and I don't have the book handy, dd has it...

What would you do for the pain then? Strep throat hurts!! I wish I had the book, but don't and the strep is here now. I HATE giving my kids abs...

 

[Chelly2003]

Perhaps "slippery elm" would help ease the pain. THe antibiotics would not do anything for pain anyway.

My son has never had antibiotics, his immune system is rather strong, as he's been in day care in the past with lots of kids having strep and he's never had it.
Give their bodies a chance to fight it without antibiotics, that way the body will be much better equiped to deal with it in the future.

 

[mamamoo]

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Originally Posted by Chelly2003 Perhaps "slippery elm" would help ease the pain. THe antibiotics would not do anything for pain anyway. My son has never had antibiotics, his immune system is rather strong, as he's been in day care in the past with lots of kids having strep and he's never had it. Give their bodies a chance to fight it without antibiotics, that way the body will be much better equiped to deal with it in the future.

I know the antibiotics won't do anything for the pain, but they are fighting the infection, which in turn got rid of the pain within a day. My five year old was up all night for two night crying because it hurt so bad, I just didn't know what to do, and now that they are on the ABs, I am afraid to stop them without finishing the full amount. Do you think it's okay to stop mid-treatment?
We are having issues with immunities...have had a stomache bug, some really bad colds, and now this. All in the past couple of months. What can I do to try to help get the immune systems working well.

Another problem we have is money. Alternative treatments are expensive, especially when we can go to the doc for free. We are on PA right now, and really have nothing to use towards the alternative treatments right now...though this is definately the route I WANT to take.

Does anyone know what causes strep?

Thanks mamas...

 

[Chelly2003]

I understand the financial thing, I lost my job in Feb, along with my health insurance, not that we ever went to the doctor anyway, we always go to the chiropractor and homeopath etc... and the insurance never paid for that in the first place.
I don't know what causes strep. I'm sure all those things added together have made everyones immune systems really weak/stressed.
I don't think its a good idea to stop antibiotics mid-way, but I've got very little experience using them (so don't take my word for it).
Perhaps let the kids get through this lot of antibiotics, and then work on building their immunity........ with any luck before the new baby arrives. I'm not sure of alternative's to help BUILD the immunity, other than a good diet. Chiropractic could help as well (not too expensive - we pay $40 a visit) The BEST way to build the immunity is through "getting sick" and letting the body take care of it, and simply providing the good diet and lots of water.... the body will get stronger and stronger provided there is nothing serious going on.
I hope this all clears up real soon!

 

[guestmama9907]

I think I have strep right now too. I have been gargling with echinacea tinture and also with hot salty water. both temporarily ease the pain. I dont know if your kids could handle doing the ech gargle it is pretty dang nasty! i put a little water in my mouth then squirt a full dropper of tincture in my throat and gargle then swallow. i am nursing so lots of meds are off limits but i am taking elderberry extract, vit c, belladonna, and the ech tincture. I know it hurts. I hope you guys are well soon.

 

[BusyMommy]

I really rec. the GSE. Put several drops in some water. Gargle and then swallow it. NASTY.

I had my son drink some 3x/day when he had an infection and it worked. He hated it but would swallow it.

 

[InfoisPower]

We all recently had Strep throat. Pretty cool doc did NOT recommend pain killers. What he did recommend was ginger (however you want to use it...we drank lots of hot ginger tea from the sliced and peeled ginger root,with honey) and turmeric (principal ingredient in curry powder, we ate a lot of curry dishes). It did help the pain and it revs up your immune system.

 

[Gitti]

You don't need extra money for a child to have a healthy and strong immune system. The child is born with the ability to construct that all by himself. All you need to do is NOT interfere. Trust his body.
Do not vaccinate, do not give junk food, sodas, do not give any medicine, do not encourage him/her to be sick.
Food does not need to be expensive. I've found the cheapest foods are the healthiest. Like lentils, dried beans, milk, eggs, fruits and vegetables. Learn to cook with whole wheat noodles, whole grain flour, brown rice, cabbage, sweet potatoes. None of those things are expensive and they satisfy for a longer time than junk foods.

What damages the immune system is vaccines. Once a child has been injected he has a long hard road to free himself of those poisons. But if he is left alone, he usually can overcome.

Here are two very helpful links:

Mothering: Fever

Mothering: Healing Crisis -

BTW I would say finish the antibiotics now. But then start to working on improving his immunity with lots of yogurt. And by that I do not mean the ones in the wee little cups with sugar etc on top. But the pure stuff. In the big containers without anything sugary. He will learn to love it. That's the only way my grandson will eat it.

 

[mamamoo]

Wow...unfortunately my first two children were vaccinated. There is not much I can do about that now, and they overall have a healthy diet(they do not eat the sugary yogurt anyway), I think that not everyone is born with a healthy immune system, there are lots of issues my older children have that have to do with damage in utero(low tooth enamel, which led to dental carries...they were not because of unhealthy diet). I wish I had known what I know now about vaxing, but I did what I thought was best at the time.

Organic food is expensive(even just the basic whole foods), though that was not the expense I was speaking of, it was the alternative forms of treatment once one does get an illness. We live on 700 dollars a month, and there is *no* extra right now, for anything...

I wasn't trying to be rude when I asked what you would do for pain, or about the finance aspect, just trying to get help for my kids who were in an extreme amount of pain.

I do know about basic health(eating well, getting lots of exercise), I was hoping for some info about boosting an already damaged immune system.
Thanks~Debi

 

[Chelly2003]

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Originally Posted by mamamoo my older children have that have to do with damage in utero(low tooth enamel, which led to dental carries Organic food is expensive(even just the basic whole foods), though that was not the expense I was speaking of, it was the alternative forms of treatment once one does get an illness. We live on 700 dollars a month, and there is *no* extra right now, for anything... Thanks~Debi

SOMEONE CORRECT me if I'm wrong, but Antibiotics can ruin tooth enamel, I'm not aware of any reason "in utero" that would cause any damage like that.

And Debi, I SO know that organic is expensive, I personally don't buy organic veggies or fruit.... we just have to make do with the "regular" kind. But we do buy and eat Wheat bread etc....

Sorry I can't be of any further help............... (Perhaps have a look into GARLIC as well, my mom SWORE by it, and I still LOVE IT and eat it almost every day)
HUGS
Chelly

 

[witch's mom]

Strep terrifies me, mostly because I grew up knowing a woman who had heart disease that was attributed to untreated strep (that led to rheumatic fever). Yet I hate the idea of tons of antibiotics. My big DD had strep several times when she was younger, and each time she had antibiotics. She also had a lot of antibiotics for ear infections--this was BEFORE I wised up and started questioning EVERYTHING mainstream: the pediatrician, the antibiotics, the junk food she was being fed at day care. I'm a little ashamed to say that when she was little, I really thought remedies came in little bottles of over-commercialized . . . well, don't get me started. Besides lots of "the pink stuff" (amoxicillin) and children's Motrin, big DD got cough medicine, decongestants, ugh.

By the time little DD came along almost 5 years ago, I'd become somewhat enlightened, and for her (few) baby illnesses, I did nothing but cuddle her and hydrate her. She eats well, she's had no antibiotics, no ear infections, no strep and seems to have an innate sense of what her body needs when she's sick--and she's rarely sick. We went to the pediatrician yesterday to have a tick removed (whole other thread) and she and the pediatrician didn't know each other, even though little DD's been one of his patients for the last five years. She just never goes in.

So this thread fascinates me. It's been over a year since our last invasion of strep--and in our house, only big DD seems to get it. I'd love to get comfortable with treating strep withOUT antibiotics. I dunno . . . In the face of that smelly, white, lumpy throat, could I really get okay without running to that pediatrician . . .?

 

[mamamoo]

Chelly, you are right. I had several antibiotics while pregnant with both of my older children for recurrent sinus/ear infections(this was before I knew anything about not taking them). This is what I am saying. My older son has had antibiotics one other time, and this is my dd's first time on them. My ds2 should be the *most* healthy of them all...he was born at home no vax's, no docs, healthy diet(most of the time, yes we slip up...still on the road), but he has been hit the hardest. I am afraid part of the reason is he is refusing to nurse. He has only nursed 2 times in the past 24 hours, which is quite unlike him. We generally eat healthy, whole grains, dry beans, fruits, veggies and such, but dh and I are both still on a huge transition from very unhealthy to healthy, and for us it takes time to get to the point I would like to be.

For most illnesses I am fine with holding, nursing, not giving meds...but like the above poster, strep scares me. I had it for 6 months straight as achild...now I know it was probably the antibiotics...but it is hard for me to know that strep is okay to fight off, especially when they are in so much pain(not now, but when they first got it), and I could do nothing else...

I also know now that all of the antibiotics I had as a kid(tons), and as a grown up(lots), are what probably made my immune system so weak(along with being vaxed).

I want to that all of you for contributing to this thread...it is a weath of info!!

hugs, Debi