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We are a sugar-free family. We eat very few grains actually so most of our sugar is in fruit. Even then, we don't drink fruit juice, so our fructose consumption is pretty low.<br><br>
We traveled to Florida for Thanksgiving and my 2 1/2 year old ate very little compared to what he eats at home. He ate plain yogurt, drank milk, and really ate very little else. On Thanksgiving Day he slept through dinner but woke up during dessert. He had eaten apple crisp on his half birthday in October ( yes, half birthdays are a good excuse for a celebration) so he actually knew what he was looking at when he saw the apple pie. He ate the sugared apples from the pie and wanted to try some pumpkin pie. He ate a couple of tablespoons of pumpkin pie filling. It was pretty sweet so even that little bit probably had a good bit of sugar. So he ate all of this with a very empty stomach from the week of poor eating.<br><br>
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He did get hyper at first, but about two hours after the pie we headed back to our hotel. About 20 minutes into the ride he started acting hyper and banging his head on the carseat. Once out of the car he was like a totally different child. He started repeating phrases quickly "mama carry me, mama carry me," though he didn't seem to want to be carried, he just wanted to repeat the phrase. Really, his behavior seemed mildly autistic.<br><br>
Anyhoo, we were just <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/yikes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="EEK!"><br>
I had planned to make ginger bread cookies this weekend since a little boy is staying over, but my goodness, I don't think so.
 

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the stress of traveling/ holidays can also make kids act like monsters, but if you believe it is the sugar, good that you keep him off it!<br><br>
one thing I've always wondered, though, is if sugar is so bad for the human body, why is breastmilk so high in sugar? Sometimes I think it is the kind of sugar that is introduced to the body (refined VS unrefined), rather than sucrose itself.<br><br>
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Oh, it was very clear. We were gone for a week and this episode followed the pies. He actually did well on the rest of the trip, including the 6 1/2 hours in the air.<br><br>
ITA agree that the type of sugar matters. There is a place for certain sugars in combination with other foods and in the context of a good diet.
 

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Were the pies homemade? From scratch? If they were store-bought, they may have been made with corn syrup rather than sugar. Even if someone "assembled" the pie at home but used a canned pie filling, it might have been corn syrup.<br><br>
Just something to consider. I know of children who react poorly to corn syrup but are fine with real sugar.
 

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I second the corn syrup notion. My daughter cant handle sugar - but anything with corn in it is worse!!
 

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Gale Force, I am not a small child by any stretch of the imagination but when I eat refined, processed sugars I tend to act the way you described your DC as acting. Eek.
 

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That's an interesting story! We don't limit sugar and I wonder if my dd has built up a tolerance to it. I do notice if she gets too much she acts wild, but a little bit doesn't make a difference, or so it seems. You are inspiring me to cut out more sugar though.<br><br>
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My 2 year old dd was fed an excessive amount of sugar by her grandma a few weeks ago and yes she got very hyper but that wasn't the scary part.In the middle of the night i noticed she was shivering but had a low body temp.A few minutes later she was super hot and her temp went to 103.She was unresponsive and still shaking.Within a fifteen minute period her temp would go from 103 to 101 to 97 and back.Finally she sat up and puked a whole bunch and then she was fine.No temp,no shaking,nothing.I have made sure she has had very low sugar consumption since then and nothing else has happened.I really think it was from too much sugar.
 

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We had family over yesterday... my dd (2.5) had 2 kinds of pie AND ice cream while she was under FIL's supervision (I was hosting). Someone else may have given her a chocolate chip cookie, and one of the pie was chocolate cream pie (ugh). We do have sugar at times but I don't think she's ever had that much or chocolate. AND I don't think she'd had a good dinner. Usually her dinners are very high in nutrition.<br><br>
Yep, middle of the night, she threw up (in the family bed. lovely.) I feel so horrible for letting her go thru that. I relly do know better. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br>
This morning she won't eat at all. Just nursing. Poor thing.
 

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We also have very little sugar consumtion in our home. We didnt let our first son near it at all until he was 2. I also do think that children who are given sugar more often do build up a tolerance to it. Good for you mama for sparing your childs system. Can you imagine what it takes for our bodies to build up a tolerance? We really do see it as a poison. My three year old now tells people who offor him sweets"Thank you but I think that thats pretty sugary. It tastes really good but it makes me feel bad". He reacts quite similarly to your child.
 

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More shocking stories.<br><br>
Yes, homemade pies, no corn syrup. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/yikes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="EEK!">
 

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Amanda, there's a book out called <i>Little Sugar Addicts</i>and it explains a lot! Our DS1 and 2 are serious sugar addicts. They will go all day, just craving that one piece of unrefined organic candy they can have... They are simply OBSESSED with it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> My three younger children don't care about sugar at all... it doesn't rule their world.<br><br>
Look into the book. It's amazing. We are not sugar free, but we are careful about what kind and how much.
 

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I have read that sugar eaten with fiber wont make a child hyper but without watch out. I have to agree, as I have noticed that my girls when eating sugar without fiber hang off the chandalers so to speak.
 

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White sugar acts like a drug. Try going totally sugar free for a week and just see how severe your withdrawl symptoms are!!!<br>
Unrefined natural sugars are better, but still shouldnt play a significant part in anyones diet.<br><a href="http://seasilver.threadnet.com/Preventorium/sugar.htm" target="_blank">Why sugar is toxic to the body</a><br><br>
Interestingly enough white table salt ("sea" or not its still all refined) is equally bad for you. Only unrefined natural grey sea salt (it comes in large grey clumps and is moist) should be consumed.<br>
Read <a href="http://members.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/salt.htm" target="_blank">here</a> about Table Salt.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">White sugar is a drug.<br>
It is 1 nirtogen atom away from cocaine in composition and just as addictive.<br>
Try going totally sugar free for a week and just see how severe your withdrawl symptoms are.</div>
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The reason we are sugar free is because of a bad case of candida. 18 months ago I went cold turkey, my mom volunteered to do the diet with me -- no sugar, no grains, no fruit, no dairy, nothing fermented or high in mold. My mom still says "if I hadn't done it with you, I would have never believed the effect. Had I not had so much contact over the years with people coming off of drugs, I would not have realized that giving up sugar is as difficult as giving up drugs. The physiological effects are similar." She and I were both in very bad shape for a month. And then we were better than ever.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/jaw.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="dropjaw"> I AM SHOCKED! Is all this bad stuff about sugar really true? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/jaw.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="dropjaw">
 

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We're a refined-sugar free family. I believe that natural sources of sugars, in moderation, are fine. When I bake, I do so with fruit or honey. I'd like to try stevia, and unrefined sugars some day.<br>
It is the refining process I have a problem with, not just the health risks but the fact that it's done with animal bones as well.<br><br>
We never fed DD sugar in her first year (still haven't) but weren't refined sugar free until one day when I was at a parenting meet that takes place at a local daycare/childcare center. While I was waiting for other moms to arrive my daughter and I were playing in the playroom. When other moms arrived (including one mom who works there) they said it was perfectly okay for DD to continue playing as we're in a room right next to the playroom (literally ten steps and within visual range). As a liability thing, every time you come in there, even if you don't use the daycare, you have to write out a paper with allergies and such about your child. I had put nothing except, "NO SUGAR" underlined with exclaimation points.<br>
I was engrossed in talking, and didn't see DD for a few moments. Then someone brought her over and said mor ekids were coming so she should move the toys in there with her. I noticed DD had some residue all over her face and hands! One mom chased after the aide and asked her what that was. The aide lied and said she'd had nothing.<br>
So another mom went over and pestered her some more, and finally got out of her that they'd fed DD sugar cookies!!!! She was out of my sight for just a few moments, AND they knew I was anti-sugar. I was so mad, and felt guilty for letting her play there after that.<br>
She was up all night, hot, acting ill, hyper, confused, overstimulated. Ugh. After that, we were convinced to go refined sugar-free - and now we have been for many months and feel great. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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The week I went off of sugar, I had a constant severe headache for almost a week straight. I was so irritable and snappy, didnt sleep well and the cravings were so strong and intense they literally made me sick.<br><br>
This week, I went salt-free and officially switched to raw, unrefined grey sea salt and I have had flu-like sympoms all week, stiff joints, hot flashes and extreme fatigue.<br><br>
Getting rid of refined sugar ad salt in your diet is hard, it is hidden in virtually <i>everything!</i> I eat absolutly <span style="text-decoration:underline;">nothing</span> out of a box or package anymore. (Well, I suppose my rice and quinoa would come in a package, but I buy bulk...)<br><br>
I agree, Gale Force;<br>
If I had never done it myself, I would have never believed it!
 

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We have been white refined sugar and salt free for years but the other night we went to a potluck at a friends who made homemade vegan ceaser dressing and I saw him add the salt in.<br><br>
I was shocked, it was refined salt with additives. I had a very small amount of the dressing but the next day....I was swollen and cranky. I did some yoga and hydrotherapy and felt alot better.<br><br>
Wow, it really makes a difference.<br><br>
I love the celtic lumps of grey salt on popcorn with hemp oil. They are like nuggets of love! :LOL
 

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It is 1 nirtogen atom away from cocaine in composition and just as addictive.</div>
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In that case, hydrogen peroxide (H<span style="font-size:xx-small;">2</span>O<span style="font-size:xx-small;">2</span>) should be just as necessary for normal bodily function, since it's only one oxygen atom away from water.<br><br>
The most common sweetener used is sucrose. Sucrose is C<span style="font-size:xx-small;">12</span>H<span style="font-size:xx-small;">22</span>O<span style="font-size:xx-small;">11</span>. Cocaine is C<span style="font-size:xx-small;">17</span>H<span style="font-size:xx-small;">21</span>NO<span style="font-size:xx-small;">4</span>. Not only does cocaine have the nitrogen atom, but the numbers of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen atoms are different.<br><br>
I agree that sugar is not a good food and that it can be addicting. But saying that it's chemically related to cocaine is nonsensical.
 
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