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Support thread for gentle parent-led weaning

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Since we have a thread for child-led-weaning, I thought it would be nice to have a thread for us moms who have given (or plan to give) our children a little nudge if they don't wean when we're ready to stop.

I want to be done by the time my DS is 4. He doesn't need to stop on his birthday, but I want to seriously start slowing down and be done a few months into his 4th year. If he decides to wean on his own, that would be GREAT. But I'm not counting on it. I think he could go on for a very long time if I let him.

Right now we're not making any big efforts to wean. I do a lot of distracting. If he asks to nurse, I'll usually say something like "Do you want mommy milk or do you want to get something to eat?" or "Do you want mommy milk or would you rather go play blocks?" At least half the time, he asks to have the non-BF choice. If he chooses "Mommy Milk", I let him have it...

We do have restrictions. We only nurse at home or anywhere we're sleeping over. He can't have mommy milk when friends are over...such as playgroup.

We don't use BF as a comfort device when he's hurt. Boo Boo bear serves that purpose. The only time that he has asked to nurse when hurt is when our cat attacked him...I think he knew on some level that he needed to fight the chance of infection.

We thought about night-weaning him...thinking that might bring him closer to full-weaning. We struggled with the decision because BF at night doesn't bother me too much and I wasn't sure I wanted to go through the trauma. But as we were planning it, I realized he actually rarely BF in the middle of the night anymore. He does in the morning...from about 5-9. But maybe that's a good sign...maybe he will decide to wean on his own.

Anyway, hope to hear from other people who are extended breastfeeding, but need an ending sooner than later.

Dina
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I'm in a similar boat, in that I do limit the number of and length of nursing sessions of my 2 year old. I haven't set an age limit, at this point she nurses many times per day, and I don't see that changing any time soon.

However, I will admit to nursing her when it's more convenient for me. I do some of the same things you mentioned. When she asks to nurse, I ask if she'd rather have a snack. I do also ask her to wait until later if I'm in the middle of another activity. And I don't allow her to nurse as long as she wants either- if left to her own devices, she'd love to nurse for a half hour every 2 hours!!! I allow her to nurse until I can see that she's getting relaxed and not latching well= making me sore. Then we count to 10, and she's done.

I am not in a hurry to wean her, but while I'm nursing her, I do want the relationship to be positive. I try to compromise so that both of our needs are being met. And, to be honest, these days, I feel negative when she's needy and demanding to be nursed often (sometimes several times per hour). So I say no when I need to for my own sanity, but try and accomidate her requests as best I can.
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Right now we're not making any big efforts to wean. I do a lot of distracting. If he asks to nurse, I'll usually say something like "Do you want mommy milk or do you want to get something to eat?" or "Do you want mommy milk or would you rather go play blocks?" At least half the time, he asks to have the non-BF choice. If he chooses "Mommy Milk", I let him have it...

I did the same thing with my Lilu, and she weaned at about 22 months. When it got close to the end, sometimes I told her, "mommy's milk's all gone - do you want such-and-such instead?" She fell for that one pretty easily. Obviously, if she insisted, I'd still nurse her, but I always gave her options beforehand. Her favorite alternative was milk in a cup with a straw - that was the coolest thing ever, according to her, it seemed.

I considered it "child-led/mother-suggested" weaning. She had the ultimate say in whether she weaned or not, and if she really needed it, then I'd still be nursing her here at 3. I just figured it was my job to help her figure out that she didn't actually need it, and make sure she knew that mommy was still there for her in other ways.
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I don't know if this is the place for me, but dd is 21 months, and since getting pg, I find I hve to say no to her sometimes, and place limits (like "not again till bed" about 45 mins before bedtime), and cut down the duration. I feel so bad, as I wanted to let her decide completely, and I hope she doesn't end up weaning because of this.
Not sure if this is the thread for me....
I'm just so glad people are posting here!!!
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I'm just so glad people are posting here!!!

I saw you take a beating on the other thread, so I thought I'd come back you up.


Pam~ setting reasonable limits is what parents do.
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I saw you take a beating on the other thread, so I thought I'd come back you up.

. Thanks! I appreciate that.

The sad thing is I'm not sure which of the threads you are talking about
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I think I'm taking a beating on many boards...OY!

Dina
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I'm glad someone started this thread. I want my 20 month old dd to nurse for at least two years, but I've begun to realize that I'm getting so burnt out with nursing on demand that I have to set some limits if I want out bf-ing relationship to be a positive one for me. So far, making sure she's not hungry/offering food instead works about half the time. I also increased the distance between us at night (she's in a twin bed right next to me) and that has helped to decrease the nighttime nursing.

As a parenting philosophy, I believe in child led weaning, but I think that gentle "mother suggested" weaning is the right path for us. It's great to have a place to chat about this!

-Kate
I'm not trying to wean yet, but we're TTC, and if nursing is very painful when I'm pregnant, I may try to urge Ethan to wean. I ideally want him to be able to nurse as long as he wants, and think I would love to tandem nurse, but don't want to go through total misery for 9mo, especially at night. I think it would be an extra challenge with him because he doesn't understand much complex language ("would you rather have a snack?").
My DS seems to be weaning himself (17 months) pretty gently, and I'm fine with him doing so. We stopped daytime nursing around 14 months, when I wanted to stop pumping at work and keep my supply regular. He enjoys drinking whole milk, so that was a pretty easy substitution. For about 2 months, he nursed morning and night. Then, he stopped asking to nurse in the morning (before, he'd snuggle up and say 'nur'), and only wanted to nurse at night. Now he seems to be cutting back on nursing to sleep - just about every other night, he won't ask, he'll just snuggle up and doze off. I know that I've encouraged him to wean a bit more than most mamas here, but I feel good about the nursing we have done!
Ok I have a 19mo..and I am a newly single mom WHO MUST go back to work so we nurse at night mostly and I know he is going through a tough time also..just started daycare and all ( I know I know..blasphemy right?) but he has become VERY frequent with his nursing when he is with me now..and I am kinda hurting..I would like to wean him slowly but everytime I try to redirect or offer something else he goes into a full blown tantrum ( he is practicing really hard to be 2) so we end up in a battle of the stubbornness and I end up caving (guilt) ....sometimes I feel like he will nurse forever..which was fine by me when I was a SAHM but now I kind of need to decompress..and I can't and I don't want to be a bad mother but I feel like one lately..HELP!
Zaxmama, hang in there!!!


I'm not in the same situation... but a few months ago, I went through a few weeks of being just so exhausted by dd's nursing that I couldn't function too well. and it seems that the more tired I got and the more I tried to limit her nursing, the more needy she got. (and I definitely identify with the tantrum / guilt pattern)

so try to ride it out? I know there is a lot going on for the two of you and he probably wants to nurse more than ever because of all the changes..

but at least in my experience, the more you resist at a stressful time, the more needy they become.

hope things work out well. lots of
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but at least in my experience, the more you resist at a stressful time, the more needy they become.
Yes. This happens to us. And the more needy they become, the more stressful we become!

I remember seeing this when I was a preschool teacher and wanting to scream at the parents..."Just give them lots of love and they'll relax!" But now I have the viewpoint of being a mom and it's not always easy.

You know...easier said than done!

Dina
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You know...easier said than done!
Dina

OH YES! always easier to give advice than to take it, too..


I remember going through the needy / stressful stage and how hard it was.. but it's over for us (for now at least) and it's easy for me to talk about it now
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I guess I fit on this thread....even though it's still some time off for me. But we all know that time goes quickly! It's sortof hard to find a spot when you nurse past a year but don't plan to go past 2. But, given that this board is "Extended Breastfeeding" I would hope that it would be supportive of all mom's bfing past one...not just those that only agree with fully child led weaning.

My situation is different from most - even on this thread. I do have a specific time in mind....2. The main reason is that I will be just shy of 40 and plan to do a frozen transfer with the embryos we have next summer. My youngest was conceived with the help of IVF.

I'm comfortable with weaning at 2. I agree that it needs to take place over time and gently...and it will. My daughter was weaned at 2 and it went very well. I know each child is different (I have 3) but feel that it will be workable to do it this time around too. And I don't feel that weaning my son at 2 to give the embryos we have frozen a chance is detrimental to my son.

I'm all for women nursing as long as they and their children wish. And I also know that each family needs to do what's best overall for their family. For some...the choice will be to wean by parents leading or a dance between child led and parent led. I think as long as it's done in a respectful, gentle, slow manner that's fine.

Zaxmama - I feel for you! I weaned my first child at 14 months before I had to go back to work...similar situation. I had a couple of months to prepare so it was probably much easier. I know it's rough...but it sounds like he really needs to nurse right now. Is it possible to keep going for a bit at least? He's had so many huge changes...I think it's really normal for him to be nursing more and more when he's with you - he needs that reassurance. Maybe if you don't worry about trying to distract right now...even for just a few weeks, it will shift and it will be easier to distract in a bit. I agree with what the others said - it definitely becomes a vicious cycle.
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I could have written your post kate-astrophe, except that my DD is 22 months. I'm not going suddenly to cut her off at 2 but I don't think I would mind too much if she was done nursing around that time.

I'm trying to offer her as many distractions and alternatives to nursing as possible but if she's really insistant that nursing is what she wants then we nurse. I think that's harder for me than her in a lot of ways because it's easier to just whip out a boob than to go make a sandwich.

You're right, clothcrazymom, those of us who would like to wean around 2 are in a weird spot, seen as freaks by mainstream for nursing past 6-9 months, but seen as mainstream here by wanting to wean before 3 years. I've done a darn good job nursing DD to this point and have loved it... I'm just ready to be done.
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