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Hi all<br><br>
Looking for some expert advice here. I use about half pockets with fleece inserts (the other half is prefolds and bummicovers). Most of my pockets are a year old to six months old. I use Charlie's Soap (half scoop powder) on the diapers. We have a cycle of stinkiness, and I just wonder whether there's a way to skip the cycle, KWIM?<br><br>
Here's what we do regularly:<br>
Diapers separated and into the pail when dirtied (poop into toilet, and if diapers are poopy, usually straight into the washer to do a load of diapers).<br><br>
Prerinse on cold, with a scoop of Oxyclean if they've been pooped on (trying to be preemptive with the odor here).<br><br>
Wash on hot, heavy duty cycle, half scoop powdered Charlies, with a second rinse.<br><br>
Dry in dryer or on the line.<br><br>
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It used to be that every 6 weeks or so, the inserts would start getting funky and I'd just bleach them separately and we'd be fine for odor again. I used Bac-Out once and it took four complete wash cycles to clean the chemicals out (SJ got a rash from them).<br><br>
But lately it seems that even with bleach, and air-drying in the sun all day outside, both the inserts and the covers (which obviously I'm not bleaching but I did wash with Calgon) - stink. Still.<br><br>
I'm wondering whether I should switch to Tide detergent. I know a lot of diaper sites say that it works best. I hate the smell of Tide (I like that, unless they're stinking, my diapers smell like nothing!).<br><br>
I don't use Charlie's on ALL my loads of laundry. I've found that it doesn't seem to take stains out of my clothes, so I just wash our sheets and towels with Charlies. I use Arm&Hammer for the other loads, and use a two-scoop empty cycle of Charlies' before I run any loads with Charlies (diapers or otherwise).<br><br>
I don't think laundry should have to be this complex! I love pockets, we can't do nighttime without them, but I am wondering whether Tide for everything would make this easier??<br><br>
Any suggestions? Experiences? Thanks in Advance! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy">: (I just had to use this smiley).
 

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No suggestions, but I know that the folks at Charlie's recommend you use the full scoop of powder with cloth diaper loads, even in a front loader.<br><br>
HTH!<br><br>
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I've had some issues with Charlie's for my regular clothes, and the Charlie's people recommended up to FOUR scoops, in my front-loader. I use at least 3 scoops on my diapers.<br><br>
Lately I've been trying different detergents. I know there is a lot of controversy about Charlies, but I just hate switching back to a "regular" detergent because of all the nasty chemicals in them.<br><br>
I do a cold soak, cold wash, hot wash, extra rinse.
 

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You will often find CDers with stink issues in the summer, and a lot of it has to do witt the heat and their DC being dehydrated - not enough liquid makes the pee much more concentrated and stinky.<br><br>
Other things to try are 8-10 drops of TTO in the first rinse cycle, an extra cold wash before the hot wash, BumGenius odor remover... Try any or all.<br><br>
FWIW, I use Allen's and I'm very happy with it.
 

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Extra hot rinses or a cup of vinegar might help.<br><br>
That said, I use Tide Free and Clear He.
 

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Ditto. If you have hard water the washing abilities of Charlie's are diminished because it binds to the hard water molecules rather than cleaning. Try using MORE Charlie's and/or adding a water conditioner like White King, Calgon ,etc. We use 1/2 scoop Charlie's in our cold pre-wash and then a full scoop for the hot wash in our FL. YOu may notice better cleaning for your regular clothes if you pre-spray really dirty spots with their solution and also use the water conditioner. We have a whole house softener, but I still add a conditioner to the dipes loads and every few times to the regular laundry for adding cleaning.<br>
LOVE my Charlie's Soap!!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy">:
 

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have you tried stipping? if you are sure that the diapers are really clean, then the stink might be from build up. run the clean diapes through a wash cycle w/o any detergent. if you get bubbles, then you have build up. i was checking my rinse cycle for bubbles, but the rinse wasn't using enough water for me to really see the bubbles. i only saw the bubble when i ran an extra wash cycle. i had to wash and double rinse 5x before i was bubble free. fwiw, my diapers were much softer after that.
 

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Another Charlies regular user - I also recommend trying the full scoop.<br><br>
My son would get a rash from Tide.
 

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Charlie's just didn't work for us. We must have a weird combo of minerals in our hard water because Charlie's *gave* all our laundry a funk. Diapers, towels, sheets, clothes, everything. Took me almost two months to undo the few weeks of using it. I didn't/don't have build-up on any laundry either because we never use the entire detergent scoop size, no fabric softener, etc.<br><br>
But. One surefire way to strip everything out of your laundry? Hang the offending items on your clothesline before a rain. Learned that by accident, but it was way cool and now I do it on purpose. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="innocent">
 
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