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Here we are!<br>
I'll re-post those potential dates so they don't get lost...<br>
December 12th, 13th, 17th (Monday), 19th, and 20th.
 

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Ok, ladies, I'm keeping us on page one. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
We went to the chiro today....my back has some serious problems, but I'm excited to get it worked on and feel better.<br>
We just found out that our insurance pays for 16 visits to a massage therapy, 16 visits to an acupuncturist, and 30 to a chiropractor...and it all resets in January!<br>
So, we're trying to think of a way to each get 16 massages this month before they reset <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/drool.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="drool">
 

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I've been MIA for a while... my 'morning sickness' really has me down in the evenings. I haven't been able to eat dinner in a while and have been trying to get to sleep as early as possible because it's the only way the nausea goes away. On a happy note, we had our 1st midwife visit and had an u/s. Everything looked great, which was a relief after my m/c this summer. They jumped my gestation date up by six days, which is a mystery to me but, whatever!<br><br>
Stephanie, sorry to read about all the difficulties with your friends and what a traumatic experience you had with Kaegan's birth. If you don't mind me asking, what hospital were you at?<br><br>
Rachel -- have you heard back about the tests yet? I'm with everyone else in thinking that things will probably be fine, but I know you can't completely relax until you get some affirmation of that.<br><br>
Grace -- congratulations on Theo's sleep marathon! I can remember how precious sleep is at that point, but can't yet grasp what the exhaustion is like when you have to care for another child as well.<br><br>
Andrea -- your story about the roofies was scary. I always thought it was more of a tv thing and it didn't really happen that often. That's lame that someone in your wedding party flaked at a time you were so in need of care and comfort.<br><br>
My story of meeting dh: We were friends in college, although he was married at the time and I was dating a friend of his. He divorced about 3 years later and then moved to Tacoma from Portland about 5 years after that. I was newly single and happy to catch up with someone from my past, although we had the 'where are you in the world and what are you doing' updates every once in a while. We reconnected and joined a pool league together. After about six months of hanging out on a weekly basis, we both suddenly realized we were in love. He moved into my apartment immediately, we bought a house 3 months later and married almost a year after our revelation. Looking back to our college years, I never, ever would have believed anyone had they told me we would be a couple, much less married. I lucked out!<br><br>
I wish I could make it for a gathering this month, but we'll be gone for a while. I'm super excited about our trip. We're leaving in a week and a half for two weeks in Germany. We're spending Christmas over there with dh's family. They have a place in a little town in the Bavarian forest. I've never been there for the holidays, so I'm really eager to see all the snow and Christmas markets and stuff. Dh and I will also get to fly up to Paris for 3 days w/out ds. I haven't been there before so I'm excited for that, too.
 

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How exciting to go to Germany for Christmas! Have lots of Gluhwein for me at the Christmas Marts. Ahhh, to jet off to Paris for the weekend . . . it makes me wonder why we ever wanted to move back to America.
 

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Kimberly--So, when does that make you due? That's so wonderful things are looking so healthy with this pregnancy. I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling so sick! I have no good advice, just sympathy.<br>
That's a really sweet story of meeting your dh.<br>
GERMANY? PARIS? Wow, that sure beats coming over to my house this month. Have a wonderful time!<br><br><br>
Victoria--When were you guys in Europe? And where? I can imagine it would be a shock to move back here <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
We had a late night <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: Theo didn't go down till after 1 am and of course he's sleeping in now but I'm wide awake <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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Nimbus- I had Keagan at Harrison out in Silverdale. They transfered us to Tacoma General after they found the bleed. I won't go to Harrison for anything ever, ever again. TG's only flaw was their unwillingness to let me nurse my son and that was on account of a few lazy nurses, the doctors were great .<br><br>
You are so lucky to spend Christmas in Bavaria! I lived in a small village called Tuttlingen for a summer exchange in high school and I've wanted to go back ever since <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Grace, Keagan was up till one last night too.. such party babies we have...
 

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Oh, dear, and I was whining because Ellen was up till 11:00. Hoping your boys get to bed earlier tonight, mamas!!<br><br>
I am not sure about making a get together this month either. Everything is taking me six times as long with the two kids, so it is about all I can do to get ready for Christmas!<br><br>
Kimberly, I am so glad things look good for this pg! That must be such a relief. I hope you have a wonderful trip! That sounds like so much fun! My dream has always been to spend Christmas in Italy. Some day...<br><br>
Rachel, any word yet? Please let us know, you are in our thoughts.<br><br>
Stephanie, I can't believe so-called "friends" would do that to you. But then I can't believe a lot of the things people do to each other these days. Too sad. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">: I hope they just leave you alone now.
 

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Hi guys!! Any of those potential dates for get togethers work fine for me.. whatever works best for everyone else!!<br><br>
We had our specialist appointment today and everything looks great!!! My quad screen was negative, so yay! We also had a more in depth ultrasound and the baby looks perfect except for a little bit of extra fluid around the right kidney. We will have another ultrasound between 28 and 30 weeks just to see how that is going. Thank you everyone for your prayers and good thoughts!!! I am relieved to know that everyone looks good and the chances of anything being wrong are like.. 1 in 3,000 at most <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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That's great to hear, Rachel.
 

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Yay!! Wonderful news Rachel! I am so happy and relieved for you!!
 

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I'm glad you're feeling so relieved about things, Rachel! What happy news! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/bouncy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="bouncy"> Now you can sit back and savor the rest of your pregnancy and the preparations for little Ryan.<br><br>
So, if it's up to me to pick, I'd like to propose Monday the 17th for us. Does that leave anyone out who wants to come? I'm totally down with just hanging out with one or two of us at a time, too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
I still feel new to the area and I love the idea of each of us working on being a practical, real life support system for each other, especially in light of all of our "dark year" conversations.<br>
I'm a firm believer in learning from other moms and working to keep from being isolated. I feel like after my initiation into motherhood, it's kind of my passion. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/innocent.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shy"><br><br>
Dena-- Has your new nanny started yet? I can't remember if she was starting after your maternity leave or not. If so, how is she working out? I can totally hear you on things taking 6 x's as long. I think it's really annoying and only slightly exhilarating to leave the house.<br><br>
Victoria---When is the big move-in planned for you guys? Are you still in Mt V?
 

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Prague from May - Dec 99 as an exchange student and Germany/Luxembourg from July 00 to Mar 05 working. And we came back because my DH was in the Army Reserves and got called up to go to Afghanistan and I was preggo with MC so I moved back to be with family. It certainly was for the best. For a while we had two residences in both Germany and Luxembourg and it sounds so 'jet set' amazing, but in reality it was just a lot of work, lol.<br><br>
But yes, I certainly suffered from reverse culture shock when I came back and I think leaving pre 9/11 and coming back post 9/11 really added to it. And I also feel like I left as a college student and came back as an adult, kwim? The time I spent in America between the two I spent all spare time keeping up with friends in Europe and trying to find a job.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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We are up in Mt V for now. Well, actually DH is cursing up and down I-5 in a hummer. And we plan on being here till Feb/Mar but I am not sure if this week is changing any of those plans. Oh, and you might have seen my DH on tv on channel 4, CPT Gehring at the Puyallup Armory, that would be my sweetie.<br><br>
We just finished the floors of the condo on the 2nd, but the renters moved in on the 1st. What a mess. And then DH was activted to state Active Duty on the 3rd. Life is always exciting.
 

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Monday the 17th would work fine for me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> I am so glad that everything is looking ok... I didn't realize how much I was stressing about it until everything ended up ok!! How did everyone survive the rain and flooding?
 

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Monday the 17th sounds good to me, too. It will be great to meet you guys since I was a no-show loser last time <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
I agree, Grace, we should all work to support one another keep from isolation!<br><br>
So Keagan was up until 2:00 am last night Er this morning. He's been up at least until 12:30 every night for weeks. I can not convince him that bedtime is earlier for the life of me. I am not about to let him scream for hours....so what can I do to coax him into a better schedule? (besides cut his naps short, I've already done that!) I am so sleepy!
 

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Grace, the 17th in the morning should work for us, barring unforseen (and of course that much more likely) disasters. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">:<br><br>
Stephanie, all I can tell you is what has worked for us with Sofie, after much trial and error. (BTW, most of this came from Raising Your Spirited Child, a book I HIGHLY recommend!)<br><br>
1. No bath right before bedtime. For many kids this is soothing, but with Sofie, it just seems to give her a second wind. Her bath is at four p.m. at the latest.<br><br>
2. No TV first thing in the morning. Apparently it screws with a kid's body clock. I have found Sofia sleeps longer and better the less TV she watches. This is especially true about any TV viewing before noon or so.<br><br>
3. We try to take a walk first thing in the morning. The morning light sets a body clock so that they are ready to sleep earlier.<br><br>
4. We have a quiet time right after lunch. Sofia no longer naps, so this is in lieu of that.<br><br>
Hope some of this helps - it has really helped Sofie get to sleep better and sleep a full twelve hours. Good luck - hope you get some sleep soon!!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Grace, the 17th in the morning should work for us, barring unforseen (and of course that much more likely) disasters. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">:<br><br>
Stephanie, all I can tell you is what has worked for us with Sofie, after much trial and error. (BTW, most of this came from Raising Your Spirited Child, a book I HIGHLY recommend!)<br><br>
1. No bath right before bedtime. For many kids this is soothing, but with Sofie, it just seems to give her a second wind. Her bath is at four p.m. at the latest.<br><br>
2. No TV first thing in the morning. Apparently it screws with a kid's body clock. I have found Sofia sleeps longer and better the less TV she watches. This is especially true about any TV viewing before noon or so.<br><br>
3. We try to take a walk first thing in the morning. The morning light sets a body clock so that they are ready to sleep earlier.<br><br>
4. We have a quiet time right after lunch. Sofia no longer naps, so this is in lieu of that.<br><br>
Hope some of this helps - it has really helped Sofie get to sleep better and sleep a full twelve hours. Good luck - hope you get some sleep soon!!</div>
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Thanks for the advice! I will look into the book... unfortunately, some of it does not apply since Keagan is not quite 8 months old yet. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> We don't do TV at all (I know, we are weird. We have the the TV but it's not been turned on in months) so that's not it. I found out early that baths excite him... he's a splasher! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"> I may try that AM walk. Keagan hate the morning. He likes to sleep in <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> Maybe it would wake him up better that the methods I am using.<br><br>
"High Spirited" does sound like a descriptor for my son though! He is so excitable and playful!
 

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I keep forgetting to sub to the new thread so here goes <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/loveeyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Loveeyes">:
 

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I don't think you are weird Stephanie. We don't have a tv at all either. And no, I don't think I am weird either, lol.<br><br>
So a question about the no bath before bedtime Dena- what is your routine then? How long is it?
 

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Stephanie, I think no TV is great!! I wish I weren't such a tube addict. But I am getting better.<br><br>
Our bedtime routine: Right after dinner Sofie gets some lap time with her Papa. Then she heads upstairs with one of us, teeth get brushed and we try to get her to use the potty (we are having a bit of a time with potty learning with her). After that, we put on jammies and she gets to pick out two or three stories (she gets an extra story if she at least tries to go potty). We climb into bed and read to her, then it is lights out, her special bedtime song, and quiet time. I sit on the edge of the bed till she falls asleep. (Another tip from the book is to not lie down next to the child unless you are planning to sleep there all night, the reasoning being that she should not wake up in the middle of the night to different conditions than were there when she went to sleep - makes it harder to re-settle. Since I stopped lying next to her when she was falling asleep she has reduced night waking, so it works for us.)<br><br>
The whole thing, from heading upstairs till she conks out, is usually about an hour long. The main thing is to have a routine that is the same each night, something that signals to the child that it is time to wind down and transition to sleep time.<br><br>
ETA: Stephanie, there are tips in the book for working with babies as well as toddlers like Sofie - mostly I just focused on what applied to us. But I would def. recommend the book for any age. What I really like is that she approaches parenting from an AP perspective - she advocates against CIO or any strict discipline, explaining why it doesn't work, esp. for spirited kids. So great.
 

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We'd also be up for a get together. I can host if the location hasn't already been decided. I don't think you people without a TV are weird--we are also TV free.<br><br>
My dh and I met 10 years ago about a block away from where we are now living. I was a student at UPS and he was living in Seattle and we met through mutual friends. Our first date was at a little cafe on 6th ave, just down the street from our first MDC gathering. We were engaged a year later and married 8 months after that. On our first date we went Dutch, and then a few years later we were living abroad and learning to speak Dutch.<br><br>
Nimbus have fun in Germany. Last year I went to the Christmas markets in Cologne and had such a nice time, especially at the medieval market.<br><br>
Now I'm off to McGregor's!
 
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