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<vent> I'm almost settled to the fact that they're only baby teeth and if they rot it really isn't a big deal <vent><br><br>
Ok, I know that's not the real answer, but I'm almost exhausted with battling DS about teeth brushing.<br><br>
Nothing works. I've tried game playing, mirroring, bath brushing, tons of money spent on all kinds of toothbrushes/toohtpaste, forcing, bribing, punishment...and he's only going on 3.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
Can you please, oh please tell me I'm not the only one who's gonna have a kid with dentures!!! Lol.<br><br>
Any suggestions? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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It sounds like you've tried everything!<br><br>
Maybe you're right, and the battle is not worth fighting, every single day. Maybe its better that your DS and maintain a positive connection, let go of this struggle, and simply fix the teeth later (if fixing is even needed). Toothbrushing is no guarantee that decay will be prevented anyway, and there's some argument that toothbrushing might actually speed up decay by weakening the enamel. Who knows, really?<br><br>
Anyway, maybe you could try offering some Xylitol gum (we use Spry brand which is supposedly okay to swallow - DD has been swallowing it for a year now with no problems. We give her half a piece at a time of a fruity flavor) after meals. And maybe have rinsing and spitting contests in the sink or over the porch after eating. And just forget about brushing. Increasing saliva (gum) and rinsing (water) should help cut down on the bacteria in the mouth.
 

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I tried everything with my son - nothing, nothing, would get him to allow me to brush his teeth. Eventually we got to a stage where he'd "brush" his own teeth but there was no way I could do a check and he wasn't doing a very good job. Then, suddenly, one day, he decided he wanted me to brush his teeth. And now at age 4 and 3 months old, he gives me the brush and toothpaste and wants me to brush his teeth. This stage has been going on for about 10 months.<br><br>
Once DS can do his teeth thoroughly on his own, I'll just check the teeth.<br><br>
So, I do know your frustrations but the stage you're going through will end and something new will occur.<br><br>
Toothbrushing of baby teeth is actually really important to me. I have about 5 baby teeth in my mouth - the adult teeth never came in - I have had to care for these baby teeth a long time! It's important to me that my son's baby teeth be healthy in the event he keeps some of them into his adulthood.
 

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we are in a similar situation. I feel that teethbrushing is a must. In the morning (When I remember) I give DD her toothbrush and let her brush her teeth how she wants. At night we do whatever it takes to get it done. Some nights it is easy and fun, other nights (many nights) it is holding her down and screaming. I do not agree with Bellinghamcrunchie at all. Go to the dental forum and read about all the kids who have to get put under GA to get cavities filled. I have bad teeth, it runs in my family. DH has great teeth so DD has a 50/50 shot at cavities, so we brush.
 

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::sigh:: I guess I'll have to do both; ease off and keep pushing.<br><br>
thanks for all the insight. i really think the habit forming of teeth brushing is important along with gum/teeth care, but maybe I am pushing too much.<br><br>
maybe soon one of the tactics will latch on and we can embrace the tooth brushing habit with open arms....and ride off into the sunset on unicorns.<br><br>
Lol. Thanks. It makes me feel better to know I'm not facing this problem on my own. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/loveeyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Loveeyes">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/loveeyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Loveeyes">:
 

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We've had the same issue. Things that have worked. I say, " I know you don't like mom & dad to bug you about your teeth so much. SO why don't we brush you're teeth, it will take 1 minute, or we could keep asking you to brush your teeth"<br><br>
I say "it only takes as long as to sing the abc's to brush your teeth" or some other song. Then I sing & brush his teeth.
 

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I thought I had tried everything also until one day I decided to tell him a story. He is really into the Thomas trains so I made up a story about him riding the trains. It was a very lame story but he loved it and sat still while I brushed his teeth. It's been working now for over 2 weeks so we'll see if it lasts.
 

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Have you tried brushing your teeth together? DD and I do our together every morning (and we have from a young age, maybe this won't work now?). She LOVES to do what mama is doing and so is quite co-operative to both brushing her own teeth (she even likes to try to floss!) and having me brush them. I also let her brush my teeth while I'm brushing hers. I sit on the toilet seat and tip her over my lap (kind of like a dentist chair) then we're at the right angle for some co-operative brushing.<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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well in our house tooth brushing is very important and we start with their gums as babies. I rub a soft cloth on them and we progress to a finger brush, then a toddler brush, etc. I have terrible soft teeth so they may have them too. We have never had any real teeth brushing problems... BUT, I do allow them to skip a night here and there... then we just brush in the morning... sometimes they are just too tired, or its been too tough of a day and I will say, we can just do it in the morning..... I think being a little flexible can kind of get rid of that power struggle.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">we are in a similar situation. I feel that teethbrushing is a must. In the morning (When I remember) I give DD her toothbrush and let her brush her teeth how she wants. At night we do whatever it takes to get it done. Some nights it is easy and fun, other nights (many nights) it is holding her down and screaming. I do not agree with Bellinghamcrunchie at all. Go to the dental forum and read about all the kids who have to get put under GA to get cavities filled. I have bad teeth, it runs in my family. DH has great teeth so DD has a 50/50 shot at cavities, so we brush.</div>
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DD is extremely resistant to toothbrushing. We have done the "hold-her-down" and get it done thing since 14 mths (she got her teeth late) because our dentist told us to.<br><br>
Now at 2.5 she has 2 bad cavities and is having G.A. to have them fixed. I am terrified of the G.A. I am angry because we did EVERYTHING right (HVCLO, trace minerals, no sweets, no juice, only "good" carbs, that expensive butter stuff, brushing at least once daily, fluoride, etc) and she still has decay.<br><br>
If I had known we were going to end up doing G.A. anyway, I would have passed on those hellish, horrible toothbrushing battles and just done what we could. I have also become very jaded that toothbrushing is even effective at preventing decay. I don't believe that 489 horrible toothbrushing battles are worth one G.A. anymore. I would much rather have her hate the dentist then run screaming from me everytime I bring out the toothbrush. I feel like a terrible mom for what I've done to her over the past year and a half. I wish someone had told me back then, "you know, its really not worth it to fight with your baby like that every day" instead of me choosing to listen to the dentist.
 

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I have a fail-safe game I play with DD (2) and DS (4.) I ask them to open their mouths, I peer in and say, "OMG!!! There are 3 hippos up there!!" They'll giggle and say "Get them, mama!" and I will brush the section I was looking at. Then I say, "Holey moley!!! 4 elephants in the back!" and we "go after" those. It helps to take my time (ie peer in first and go through my mock shock routine - I'm v. dramatic and it makes them giggle.) They like naming what animals are in there next ("Mama!! Lions are in there too!!)<br><br>
It's worked well for us - but my kids are suckers for silly acting on my part.<br><br>
The other thing that helps a lot is that DH picked up a selection of spin-brushes from the store and they get to pick from the bunch each night - they may go for Tigger, or the Little Mermaid, a race car, or an ice-cream cone brush. They like to have a choice. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I also do the 'Let's see what/who we can find in your teeth today!' game. It works so-so. Today, though, dd fell asleep for her nap and I was realizing she hadn't had her teeth brushed at all yesterday (we were camping) so I did it while she was asleep. It was actually really easy and I was able to get to the teeth I usually have a hard time reaching, cause her mouth was all relaxed. Maybe it won't work all the time, but I definitely plan on trying it again 'cause I get frustrated with the whole thing, especially at night when we're all tired and worn out. She's 2.5 btw
 

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I'm a moderate on it as well. I really try to get it in every night but I will not make either of our lives miserable over it. Usually if I "give up" and say, "OK, I'm just going to brush my teeth." he will say he wants to have his turn first.<br><br>
We also sing the ABCs while I brush his teeth. Then I ask him to sing for me while I brush mine. I usually have him sing it three times for me though <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
I have asked him to brush my teeth before, and that was fun.<br><br>
I have done lots of playful parenting things like brushing his head, his elbow, his leg, etc. and he says, "No mama, my teeth!"<br><br>
We've brushed the teeth of stuffed animals and toys.<br><br>
And sometimes I just let him do it himself. But usually he enjoys the play and asks me to sing the ABCs so we're good.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> I'm sorry, I know it's hard. Definitely not worth a lot of horrible miserable experiences though, IMO.
 

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We've had our share of battles, but things have been going a wee bit better here. Here are two things we've tried.<br><br>
One idea I got here from mothering.com. The idea was for me and dh to sit down with dd on the couch with her toothbrush. One of us brushes while the other holds her and comforts her. This worked for us until recently.<br><br>
When the sitting-on-the-couch routine started not to be such a pleasant experience, we discovered that if I give my dd a big hug, my dh can brush her teeth over my shoulder. So she's getting a hug and getting her teeth brushed at the same time. It's working so far!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have a fail-safe game I play with DD (2) and DS (4.) I ask them to open their mouths, I peer in and say, "OMG!!! There are 3 hippos up there!!" They'll giggle and say "Get them, mama!" and I will brush the section I was looking at. Then I say, "Holey moley!!! 4 elephants in the back!" and we "go after" those. It helps to take my time (ie peer in first and go through my mock shock routine - I'm v. dramatic and it makes them giggle.) They like naming what animals are in there next ("Mama!! Lions are in there too!!)<br><br>
It's worked well for us - but my kids are suckers for silly acting on my part.</div>
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^^^ This was the only thing that worked with my 32 month old.... him opening wide to look for monsters and animals hiding in his teeth, and then me brushing them off... sometimes there is a "coloured" tooth in there, sometimes there are some cars, but he always finds something for me to brush off in a dramatic way. Yes, it takes twice as long... but he doesn't fuss, he has fun doing it, and it makes my life easier.
 

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We ere doing really well. Ds is almost a year. Last week he started to have a fit. Both dh and I are super cavity prone. When I was a nanny, I used reward charts. They worked well.
 

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Oh wow I can't wait to try the "is there a hippo back there" thing. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> DS is only 16 months so I don't stress about it at all if he isn't in the mood. But generally I let him do his own brushing and I wait till his happy or needing a distraction before we even attempt it. If his teeth don't get brushed one evening I don't even worry about. So far we haven't had any problems. But I'm sure the battle of the wills is just around the corner. His independence is growing each day.
 

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WaverlyBrinks,<br>
By mirroring, do you mean having him mimic you or brushing his teeth while he is in front of a mirror so he can see what you are doing. My dentist recommended the latter and it worked well for us.<br>
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Ina has just gotten over this (we hope!). We brushed (with a cloth) before she even had teeth - because of all the acid from her reflux. So we thought we were fine and she wouldn't have issues, but she did start resisting toothbrushing by the time she was about 18 months. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
Unfortunately she has teeth similar to dh's - massive excessive plaque/tartar formation. Some days her teeth look like cheetos by NOON, despite morning brushing. She's been to the dentist twice now and they actually cleaned her teeth the past visit.<br><br>
What has worked for us:<br>
1. Hunting for the "plaque bugs." Similar to the hippo deal above. We sometimes have daddy plaques, mommy plaques, baby plaques etc. Big ones, little ones - made a big production of "finding" them and having them move around in the mouth (as I brushed) - "OOoooh, this is a WILD plaque bug! Look, he's hiding behind your molar here - let me see - OH, he got away again!" Then a production of shaking them into the trash or sink too. Takes much longer but it worked most of the time.<br><br>
2. Switching off on which parent brushes the teeth.<br><br>
3. Letting her brush mine after I brush hers.<br><br>
4. We just started using a 'gentle' bristle electric toothbrush. It's faster, and her teeth get so much cleaner too! We just switch out the heads on the toothbrush system we'd been using so she has her own head.<br><br>
5. Some nights we end up just using the washcloth still. It's fast ....<br><br>
6. Our dental hygienist told us that some nights, she'd sneak in and brush the kids' teeth a little more while they were asleep. She's a professional though, something tells me I might wake Ina if I tried this!<br><br>
....One of my closest friends is a dental hygienist, and she's struggled with this with her kids. And she said her boss's kids also resisted tooth brushing. It's par for the course, I guess. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
ETA - if it's worse at night, it could be that she's also resisting bedtime! We figured this out with Ina. So, the more she futzes around avoiding toothbrushing, the fewer bedtime stories she gets (she usually gets 3).
 
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