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I referred to an article that changed DH's mind (he was deadset against HB). I should have included the link -- got several messages asking for it. Here it is :)<br><br>
Technology in Birth: First Do No Harm<br>
By Marsden Wagner, MD<br><a href="http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/technologyinbirth.asp" target="_blank">http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articl...ogyinbirth.asp</a><br><br>
Let me put my amateur psychologist hat on and say why I think this worked for him so well (not necessarily in this order):<br>
* Wagner is an MD<br>
* He comes across as rational and not a "fanatic", not against technology just against the inappropriate overuse of technology<br>
* Wagner has a penis (sorry, DH is wonderful, but on this it helped him to hear from a man -- he's really not a Neanderthal)<br>
* Wagner was former european director of women and children's care for WHO (DH respects WHO a great deal and, not being American, will listen to Europeans more willingly)<br>
* I found the article in French (DH is a grad student and English is his 3rd or 4th language, so he's not going to read a ton of non-school stuff)<br>
* Because it's a long article, I highlighted the relevant bits and added a bit of commentary that explained exactly what went wrong with DD's birth and laid out how her distress and my c/s were caused by the medpros. This was most compelling.<br><br>
He said he still has questions for the MW (mostly "what if"s), but will support me 100% if I feel HB is right. I do. We agreed not to discuss it with anyone except one pro-HB couple. We don't have any family in the area. If anyone asks what we are doing, we'll just be vague and wave our hands and murmer something about weighing our options. They'll assume that means hospital and we won't deal with bad vibes. I want to GIP. :)<br><br>
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Thanks for the link. My dh is onboard but still not 100% comfy with the idea. This might come in handy. Now I just need to get pregnant. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
-jeanine mom to Connor 8-10-03 <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/toddler.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="toddler">:
 

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Thank you, I was one of the ones that asked you for the link after your post the other day. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> I have read it thoroughly, and have been doing a great deal of research this afternoon, and everything I can find, INCLUDING from the American Whatever of Obstetrics and Gynecology <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"> says that for me (low risk, overall healthy, assuming my next pregnancy is like my first, ie incredibly uneventful) homebirth is statistically no safer or more dangerous than hospital birth. Provided it's attended by a skilled HCP (that'll be a midwife, thank you!) and I am within 30 mins. of a hospital should anything life-threatening arise. All this is true. Now I just have to figure out a good way to broach the subject with my DH, which I feel a little silly doing since I am not pregnant, nor are we even TTC yet. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/Sheepish.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Sheepish">:
 

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Good luck.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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good luck!<br><br>
i bookmarked the article to have it handy when time comes for #2 <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
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Yeps, it's a very interesting article! At the moment I don't have anybody to convince or inform, but I'll certainly keep it in my backpocket ;-)<br><br>
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:LOL<br><br>
No, I do get that. It helps for it not to be by some kooky woman going on about the power of the belly-button, doesn't it?<br><br>
Thanks for the link.
 

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Thank you for posting this. I'm not sure it'll help me because it says that birthcenters are safe and dh is already okay with a birthcenter, but I am leaning towards home. However, it definitely would have been helpful the first time around when I had a planned hospital delivery. It will almost certainly help from the technology aspect. I found it to be well-written and it didn't have a biased feel to it. Thanks, I will definitely be saving this link!
 

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Yeah, that's a great article! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> He also might appreciate reading anything by Dr. Michel Odent, a French physician/obstetrician (although now living in the UK I believe.)
 

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Thank you so much for the link. The article is great and i can't wait to give it to dh. The website itself is also full of great info. There are some other articles on the safety of homebirth that are really good.<br><br>
After losing my first child at home in May, i am currently planning another homebirth this coming May but have, of late, been overcome by doubts. Dh has agreed to a hb but is not fully on board. Part of me worries that my strong desire for a homebirth makes it difficult for me to make a truly unbiased and informed decision. Basically i am scared of the hospital but at the same time believe (though i have little or no evidence) that the hospital can handle certain, albeit rare problems that cannot be addressed at home and for which a hospital transfer is not quick enough. I really hate that no matter where i birth, there is no guarantee that my baby will survive. I wonder what would have been different in a hospital last time and wonder if the cascade of interventions would have inadvertantly saved my daughter by getting her out quicker.
 

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Isn't it odd that most educated people cannot change their mind on the basis of common sense?<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/headscratch.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="headscratch">:<br><br>
Think about it.
 

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Most educated people are so brainwashed by the system, they forget how to think for themselves. They also absolutely ignore their own instincts and common sense to them is just that - "common", as in what people commonly do.<br><br>
(Not a slam at educated people, of course, I have a biology degree myself <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I'm just lucky that life has led me down the right paths to do the right research to live in harmony with my surroundings, rather than fighting them every step of the way)
 

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Shoot, non-educated people can be pretty bias too. A family member told us that the only reason we were choosing homebirth was because "Yall, just always have to be different!".....whatever, maybe I will send him this article and others.
 

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I have a few degrees also, but I have found this to be so often true and very disturbing.
 
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