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I felt a little worried about posting this because of my allergy metal history. I have mercury issues, both my boys have significant allergies. We have made great strides in our health, but I believe we haven't touched the mercury stuff.<br><br>
My 3.5 year old is really close to weaning.<br><br>
I really feel like it is time to have another one. For about a year I tried to consider only having two, but our family doesn't feel complete. We plan on trying this winter, in maybe 3 -4 months.<br><br>
I know WhoMe has a great thread about prepping for pregnancy while nursing, or prepping while pregnant.<br><br>
I want to discuss things to do while not nursing or pregnant.<br><br>
What is safe in such a relatively short time frame. What would be really helpful.<br><br>
I was thinking of things such as lemon in the morning, or I don't know what else. I didn't pay much attention to things that I couldn't do.<br><br>
What about those traditional liver cleanses, you know the kind that you slurp down lots of olive oil and lemon? Is that useful?<br><br>
So far, since we are still nursing once in a while, I am just doing my normal stuff - supplements, clo when I can stomach it or the pendulum says yes.<br>
We have midline issues so I really want to address that. I am through food folate and the right kind of supps.<br>
For vitamin A, I do liver and some clo. I'm not sure if I am doing enough.<br>
Right now my pendulum is saying I have enough D, calcium and A. I really don't think it is true, so I am trying to figure out what it is really telling me.<br><br>
Any suggestions on what I should do? and how about dad?
 

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I think the large volume olive oil/lemon juice thing may be too much for you. I assume that because I reacted so much to 1 lemon and my usual fatty breakfast later, I would've gotten pretty messed up with more fat and more lemon juice. In general, I'd think modest things--not stuff like the Master Cleanse, but smaller stuff.<br><br>
For health problems like ours, I'd think some combination of: liver support, maybe some mild liver detox (mild for other people, significant for us), digestive support (whatever it takes so that, of the foods that you eat, you feel good, don't have bad digestive reactions to them), adrenal support/healing, nutritional support, and happiness support.<br><br>
I don't know how, exactly, to describe the last one, but I feel like I've had a couple jumps in happiness, improvements in my overall outlook, in how I interact with the kids, in how understanding and supportive I can be of DH, in how I can view myself and feel about myself. I'm guessing homeopathy is part of this for you.<br><br>
re: the foods, I'm not going to wait til gluten is good for me and I'm not certain cow's milk will ever be okay, but I think some dairy eventually will be--but I'm not necessarily going to wait for that.<br><br>
I don't know if this will help or not. I am planning to stop all my active detox activities about 3 months before we TTC, on the theory that it takes a while for eggs to develop (apparently 5 months, I just read, so where the original 3 months I read about came from, I'm not sure), and I want to let any circulating toxins settle down and just work on nutrients and happiness/joy for a while.<br><br>
I really like the vitamin C flushes for reducing circulating toxins and I think helping me avoid getting bogged down while I am doing active detox. They've helped a couple times with mood issues.<br><br><a href="http://www.perque.com/pdfs/Pt_Ascorbate_Slush_FIN.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.perque.com/pdfs/Pt_Ascorbate_Slush_FIN.pdf</a><br><br>
I find the timing thing so difficult. DS will likely be 5 if/when a third child comes along, and I'll be 36, and DH and I have wondered if four is the right number for us. I used to be sorta upset about the gap, but it actually feels pretty good now. I feel like the path we've been on, and we're still on (since my TTC time is a bit fuzzy, I have a general plan but I'm okay modifying depending on how I'm doing, how DH is doing, and how the kids are), it feels like a good path for the family. So if what you're planning feels like a good path for your family, then yay!<br><br>
In practical terms--you've had an odd reaction to supplemental K, am I remembering right? Maybe that's involved with the pendulum and A & D. I'm going to try NAET to see if it can work on my weird K issue--ideally, it would go away and none of my future kids would have it. I think that may be setting expectations a bit high, but maybe not.<br><br>
naptime here, would love to chat more, since I'm getting slowly closer to where I want to be. I find the prospect of TTC a bit scary, I took it for granted before and now I feel like I have a better understanding of what's really possible, and still how many things are out of our control.
 

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thanks for such a long thoughtful reply.<br><br>
It was good to hear about how long is needed between active detoxing and conception. I didn't think about it in terms of egg development though. That is making me lean towards not active detoxing, not that I was planning on much. I just told Panser about my plans because she is giving me flowers for regular stuff and for metals. She said everything she had planned for me in the near future would be fine for baby making.<br><br>
It is exciting, yet I agree with you, the innocence is gone. There is just too much to be aware of .<br><br>
Before I got pregnant with my oldest, we lost a baby. We lost an innocence there. Finding out we were pregnant with my son and the whole pregnancy was exciting and happy, but it had an undercurrent of sadness, an awareness of potential loss. I can see a correlation with what we are all going through.<br><br>
Yeah, I should figure out about K some more, and think about what my pendulum is telling me. THere is a solution there - somewhere.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">It is exciting, yet I agree with you, the innocence is gone. There is just too much to be aware of .<br><br>
Before I got pregnant with my oldest, we lost a baby. We lost an innocence there. Finding out we were pregnant with my son and the whole pregnancy was exciting and happy, but it had an undercurrent of sadness, an awareness of potential loss. I can see a correlation with what we are all going through.</div>
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I'm sorry for your loss. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> You described how I feel going forward perfectly. Even knowing more and having made positive changes, I feel less certainty for any future child's health and well-being. Which is odd--my kids are in pretty good health, nothing I can see that's irreversible or truly problematic, but I think we opened the door to understanding that a lot of things that seemed "out there" and "someone else" could really, easily, be us. In a way I feel fearless, I can do anything, and yet at the same time, I _want_ things to be easy for the two kids I've got, and any future ones. And I don't _want_ to do more work, I want things easier, yk?<br><br>
I got short-term mood improvements from the lemon juice, and I think it started to help my liver enough to maybe make a difference in terms of future morning sickness (I hated feeling nauseous for 9 months). A couple weeks, if you've got supps to help (or you're up for trying the fun vitamin C flushes <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">) may be a reasonable thing to consider.
 

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In terms of concrete things--my HCP recommended modifilan daily while nursing, 3 before breakfast, and I think I plan to do that indefinitely. I'll do it while TTC and pregnant.
 

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ahhh yes modiflan. I keep on meaning to get this. I am also thinking of getting 55 pounds of salt too. Ithink my husband thinks I'm crazy.
 

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I bought 55 lbs more than 2 years ago, we're just now getting close to the end, though I don't use it for soaking in or anything, just cooking/eating. Eventually I figured out that moving it from the original bag to empty water jugs was much more convenient (I always worried about the original bag spilling, it's not re-sealable). It's yummy, and pretty.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">In terms of concrete things--my HCP recommended modifilan daily while nursing, 3 before breakfast, and I think I plan to do that indefinitely. I'll do it while TTC and pregnant.</div>
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Soooo.... Tanya, I tried the modifilan, and I'm thinking it might have actively mobilized stuff for DS. I tried in the day we came off a zeolite round, hoping it would help his symptoms (nothing severe, he's usually just cranky and wants to nurse more that day). It seemed to make things worse, not better - we tried it for most of the day, then stopped at night, and it's like the following day was the one that looked like coming off a round. Not sure it was mobilizing, and we may try again, just to see if that was a fluke, but... I upped his vite C a bunch too, so next time I'll just do the modifilan, and not change anything else.<br><br>
I'm sure it's safe for you - you're getting clear signs that for you it doesn't mobilize, it just mops up. But M2S, you might want to try it when you're not pg or nursing first, just to see what effect it has on you - that way you'll know if it's personally safe for you to take while pg/nursing.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Hmm.... how much did you give him?</div>
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I opened the capsules and split them into smaller capsules - I think I put each on into three smaller capsules. Then I gave him one of those smaller capsules each hour for about 8 hours. So total he would have had 2.5-3 of the original sized capsules?
 
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