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I'm just curious. How many are we who have spotted/bled lately? I've counted at least 5 just reading other people's threads.<br><br>
I realized today I've been bleeding off and on for the last month. And that's not counting all the spotting I had first trimester. So much for getting 2+ years off of having a period.
 

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I didnt bleed at all with this preg until 23 weeks (Im 24 now)... My other pregs I bled off an on the entire pregs and with my first it was really heavy and almost non-stop.<br><br>
Ive only had that one bleeding episode with this preg though.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wave.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wave"> Placental Abruption here. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wave.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wave"><br><br>
I decided to go to the hospital for this one. I started pouring blood & knew something was up. I kept thinking the whole time I was there... "Tell me it's a polyp. Tell me it's a polyp!" but, during the vaginal exam they saw another gush of blood and more clots coming out of my cervix. Other things confirmed placental abruption.<br><br>
I had some spotting during the 1st trimester. I've NEVER bled during pregnancy before this pregnancy. I guess this is my bloody one?<br><br>
I'm just staying focused on a healthy full term chubby baby for July.<br><br>
quarter - is your bleeding spotting or something more? Like are you filling a pad? Do you believe in homeopathy and supplements? I would for sure do some arnica pellets and probably up the Vitamin E. Oh, and with you heading this club, quarter, I feel like you should rename it "The Bleeder's Cup" to play on the horse theme you have going. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
K - Oh, goodness, I missed your bleeding. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Sounds like it was a significant amount. So scary! Do you they know why you were bleeding?
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/tiphat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Tiphat">: sub-chorionic hemorrhage/hematoma here! (actually not sure what the difference b/w that & placental abruption is since SCH is caused by a separation b/w the placenta & the uterine wall.<br><br>
I have bleed every.single.day since about 13 weeks (I'm 21 now). Sometimes really REALLY heavily... I'd soak pads & have blood running down my legs. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> It's been the scariest thing ever, since I had a textbook pregnancy & birth w/ #1. The baby is growing great though- there is only a tiny bit of the placenta actually involved & the rest of the placenta is compensating quite well.<br><br>
I've been having care from my homebirth midwives, OB/GYN & perinatologist. The peri says I'm at an increased risk of preterm labor & IUGR in the 3rd trimester, but as things are right now, he likes my chances of going to term <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br>
K- what was the source of the bleeding during your 1st preg?<br><br>
Spark- how many weeks were you when you started bleeding? Has bedrest been recommended for you? I went on bedrest at first, but I would often bleed my heaviest during the middle of the night- so everyone agreed that if I was comfortable, I might as well get up & get on with my life. Thanks for the suggestions on the arnica & Vit E.<br><br>
I have mixed feelings about taking Alfalfa supps. Since it's so high in Vit K, I don't want to interfere w/ the healthy blood flow through the placenta & cause abnormal blood clotting, you know?<br><br>
HANG IN THERE MAMAS!!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/grouphug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="grouphug">
 

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Yeah, I actually thought about the Bleeder's Cup. Too bad I can't use my Diva cup for this. I've certainly gone through the pads. I've been bleeding steadily now since yesterday afternoon. Baby is still active, but it just doesn't get better, no matter what I do or dont' do. I don't feel comfortable heading to a hospital for this. They were unable to even give me a frickin' diagnosis, how can they help me now? If anything, I'm more sold than ever on homebirth and avoid this system that failed me. I've been soooooooo careful with everything this pregnancy. I've eaten all the right things, gotten all the rest and exercise I felt I needed, used herbs, and now I can't even stop the bleeding, and I really believe there isn't a power on earth that can. This will probably be how it is for the rest of the pregnancy. Only 16 weeks to go. I am so frustrated, I totally broke down and cried about it this morning. I can do no right, my body is broken and no one knows why, and no one can fix it.<br><br>
End of rant.
 

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They have no clue what the source of any of the bleeding was.. The freaking docs said this last time that it was a bladder infection.. Are you freaking kidding?? I can tell when blood is coming from the vagina rather than the urethra!<br><br><br>
With my first though I was in preterm labour from incompetent cervix and I believe that some of it was that I was constantly dilating and contracting and they kept trying to stop it so it just threw my body out. Like my cervix wanted to dilate with the contractions I was having but the meds were trying to stop the contractions so it was just messing me up..<br><br>
With my second preg it was off and on through the whle preg but not as bad as the first.<br><br>
And this time the only episode was the one last week. No clue from any of them. So Im guessing cervix is the cause.<br><br>
Everything was looked at on scans and stuff like placental abruption but nothing was ever found.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">They were unable to even give me a frickin' diagnosis, how can they help me now? If anything, I'm more sold than ever on homebirth and avoid this system that failed me.</div>
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even WITH my diagnosis, there's nothing they can do to help me. Seriously- they check my hemoglobin to make sure I'm not in bad shape from all of the bleeding. If I was contracting, they'd check my cervix, put me on drugs to stop labor, etc- but so far that's not been an issue at all. & bed rest hasn't made a difference. So I sure don't fault you for not pursuing it more.<br><br>
Here's my question about homebirth (which I was planning before the constant bleeding began). If I continue to bleed until & while I'm in labor, how will I (& my midwives) know what's my "normal" bleeding & what's a sign of placental abruption in labor. KWIM?<br><br>
But if all other signs point to a healthy baby & mom.... I'd sure be sad not to be at home like last time <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">They were unable to even give me a frickin' diagnosis, how can they help me now? If anything, I'm more sold than ever on homebirth and avoid this system that failed me.<br><br>
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I can do no right, my body is broken and no one knows why, and no one can fix it.</div>
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Quarter, I hear you. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> I'm so sorry you're feeling so frustrated & emotional. My identity (and yours too) says I'm a healthy strong woman. Then, something weird happens & rattles that view! No fun! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> I really believe that tuning in is so important. And, it sounds like you're tuned into your body and your baby. I'm still planning a homebirth FOR SURE. I was told by the hospital staff this time that if I was 28+ weeks, then they would have sectioned me & delivered my baby!!! I can't imagine that would be good considering I didn't have a c-section while I was there & babe/I seem to be doing fine.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">If I continue to bleed until & while I'm in labor, how will I (& my midwives) know what's my "normal" bleeding & what's a sign of placental abruption in labor. KWIM?</div>
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Have you asked your MWs about this? most are trained to identify the amount of lost blood. Also, a lot of MWs have herbs/supplements/homeopathy that they recommend to help combat hemorrhage.<br><br>
JenMidwife, from what I understand the difference between you & me is this -- yours is ongoing, right? Like an almost constant bleed? My placenta tore away for some unknown reason & I gushed blood & big clots... like so much that our sheets, carpet, towels are being treated. I went from no blood to gushing in about 1 minute. Now I'm just lightly spotting (only noticeable when I wipe). We're expecting the spotting to go away entirely. but, apparently, this kind of thing can happen again for no reason. So, if I start gushing again or get light headed, heart palpations, dizzy, pale, etc, etc, etc, then I need treatment again.<br><br>
Khourt -- Isn't it crazy what the assumptions are sometimes... like surely you must think like all the dumb women that urine comes from the cervix. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/nut.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="nut"> Sheesh.
 

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Oh yes... I spent a little time in the hospital for it and thats the diagnosis I got... A bladder infection even though everything came back normal. The only bacteria was some normal flora... They just HAD to do something to feel like they did something KWIM.. So they gave me some antibiotics and sent me home... Should have just stayed home with it then!
 

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Khourtney- isn't it amazing how well you become the "master" of your own body or condition after awhile (I bet you're like this w/ your kids too) <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">JenMidwife, from what I understand the difference between you & me is this -- yours is ongoing, right? Like an almost constant bleed? My placenta tore away for some unknown reason & I gushed blood & big clots... like so much that our sheets, carpet, towels are being treated. I went from no blood to gushing in about 1 minute. Now I'm just lightly spotting (only noticeable when I wipe). We're expecting the spotting to go away entirely. but, apparently, this kind of thing can happen again for no reason. So, if I start gushing again or get light headed, heart palpations, dizzy, pale, etc, etc, etc, then I need treatment again.</div>
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Spark, yep, that's right. Although when I was diagnosed, "they" didn't know if it would "scab over" (internally, it would really scab) & eventually stop or continue... Wow, that must have been absolutely terrifying to have that kind of bleeding! That is INSANE that they would do a c/s @ 28 weeks even though your babe is in great shape & the rest of your placenta is compensating perfectly <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:
 

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omg, Spark I just saw on the other thread that your PA was just today or yesterday! You must be so shaken up <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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My goodness! Just checked in to see how all were doing, no bleeding here this time. (had a tear in the placenta with DD2 that caused bleeding so I can relate in a way)<br><br>
Spark-How scary! Glad you and babe are doing well! I very much hope you heal nicely and make it to July without another occurrence.<br><br>
Sending a really big <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> to all of you!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Here's my question about homebirth (which I was planning before the constant bleeding began). If I continue to bleed until & while I'm in labor, how will I (& my midwives) know what's my "normal" bleeding & what's a sign of placental abruption in labor. KWIM?</div>
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It's my understanding that PA bleeding is sudden and super super heavy. Heavy bleeding during labor is never normal. And from the stories I've read involvings a PA, there was also severe pain at the site of the placenta. So that would be my guess, that you would watch for those signs. After the birth, losing up to 2 cups is normal. When I was researching UC, someone recommended pouring 2 cups of red dyed water on the floor just to get an idea how much that is. When it's all spread out like that it looks like a ton. But it's okay.<br><br>
I stopped bleeding yesterday evening. I'm really hoping not to have an episode like that again. It felt like a period.
 

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It did stop after a couple weeks and I didn't have any further bleeding issues.<br><br>
I remember how stressful it was at the time for me and it really did not last all that long in the grand scheme of things. I can only imagine how hard it must be to continue having to deal with bleeding and spotting. It's very unsettling, even when both Mom and babe are doing well.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">After the birth, losing up to 2 cups is normal. When I was researching UC, someone recommended pouring 2 cups of red dyed water on the floor just to get an idea how much that is. When it's all spread out like that it looks like a ton. But it's okay.</div>
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yes, up to 500 ml is normal. Blood is a little "thicker" than water... a truer consistency might be red jello after you mix it w/ hot water & it just starts to firm up (like before you put it in the fridge?). But geez, that would be a sticky mess <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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Well, I'm joining this club this morning.<br><br>
Anyone care to share what their bleeding/spotting looks like? Color, consistency? This is my first experience with it.
 

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I have not had any recurrence of the spotting--it was a really small amount but bright red "fresh" blood. It scared me. I can't imagine dealing with it day in and day out. I feel for you ladies who have it all the time.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">omg, Spark I just saw on the other thread that your PA was just today or yesterday! You must be so shaken up <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"></div>
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You know, I actually wasn't too badly shaken up. The hospital really just kind of made me think it wasn't that big of a deal. I kept thinking if it was they would have put me on home bedrest or kept me there. What DID shake me up was talking to my MW on the phone (she's out of state right now) and I mentioned, "Oh, let me run up stairs so I can hear you better" and she responded "STOP! Why are you going up STAIRS!?!?!"<br><br>
She then went into a long list of what I should NOT be doing... of which I was doing pretty much all of. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/nut.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="nut"> THEN I was shaken up. So, now I'm on modified bedrest & because of that & the rest of her suggestions the spotting has STOPPED. Thank goodness!<br><br>
Placenta Abruption Protocol:<br>
1-2 pellets each of homeopathic Arnica 200c & Bellis 200c (for wound healing)<br>
Vitamin E<br>
Modified bedrest<br>
Inclined couch or loveseat (one end propped up with books & lay with head at low end, feet at high end)<br>
Pelvic Rest for one week after spotting stops & then resume gently, more spotting = stop longer.<br>
No lifting over 10lbs<br>
Pregnancy Tea (although I'm one of those weird people that pregnancy tea causes ctx in so it's off my list, but on for anyone else in the same situation)<br><br>
MW said if I follow these then my placenta should fully repair itself. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/banana.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="banana"><br><br>
What all are you doing for your bleeding if anything?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Anyone care to share what their bleeding/spotting looks like? Color, consistency?</div>
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I described mine a little in post #4... I've pretty much never had less than a "light period" (eg I've needed a pad, not just a panty liner, so I'd call it more than spotting) during the last 9 weeks. I bleed bright red, frank blood for 3 weeks straight- often quite heavily. For the last 3 weeks, it has gotten darker like brick red, port wine, almost brown & thicker... more mucusy & clotty. This is good, because it means it's old blood <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 
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