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I suppose it isnt 100% cloth diaper related, but every time I hear a comment on it... someone mentions his booty. Maybe someone here can help?<br><br>
Wesley is a BIG boy. He was 18 pounds by ten weeks and is now 34 pounds at 18 months. He is seriously bowlegged. I havent taken them to well baby or other doctor appointments for check ups simply because I do not drive and hadnt noticed a problem witht them. I plan on vaxing after the age of two (so I need to get started on my daughter, but that is a whole other issue)<br><br>
I know that most kids are bowlegged to a degree but Wesley looks like he is wearing a pair of chaps, and only walks on the sides of his feet. (the outer part from pinky to heel only, his big toe does not touch the ground or feel pressure when he walks) Has anyone else had this and it corrected? My dh is concerned about his walking on the sides of his feet mainly because he (dh) was born with a club foot and surgery has made him only able to walk on the sides of his one foot and he knows how horrible that is over time. Wesleys reasons for walking on the sides are different, but dh is still concerned. Of course Grandma was concerned and mentioned all types of braces and surgery.<br><br>
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1. anyone had this and it turned out to be no problem<br>
2. do you think soft leather shoes are doing him a DIS service in allowing him to walk on the sides of his feet only combined with the serious bowleggedness.<br>
3. when I do go to the doctor should I put a disposable on him just to avoid me going apesh*t if the doctor mentions cloth being the problem.<br><br>
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honestly, if he's walking on the sides of his his feet, It sounds a little more then "baby bowlegs" and I don't think a doc will contribute that to a dipe. My dd always looked a little bow-legged when she walked (she did walk flat on her feet tho), took her to a pediatric orhopedist who said she was fine (he specialized in sports injuries on teens), took her to the Childrens hosp in LR and she was slightly pigeon toed (so is her mom <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">) and she wore these shoes that were mounted to a bar at night. The angled her feet out at a gentle angle and she wore them for abt a year. I don't think docs are Gods and always know what they're talking abt, but maybe you *should* take him to just a pedi to see what they think. waht you could do is put him in a sposie and say "hmmm, do you think *a* diaper between his legs could be contributing to this" and when he says no say "wow, not even a big bulky diaper, like cloth or something?" that's right, set 'em up -lol
 

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I have no advice but just wanted to say that at 17 months my son's legs still have not straightened out.Of course my grandma says it's because of the cloth diapers <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"> I am curious at what point I need to be concerned?
 

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The whole diaper causing a baby to be bowlegged any more then babies naturally are, is funny to me. I always wonder if it were true that CD caused this, then why don't be see everyone over 50 walking around w/bowed legs?
 

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<a href="http://us.f1f.yahoofs.com/bc/3f81cb96_119f5/bc/My+Documents/look+at+the+muscle+tone!.jpg?bfJUKwABohB5aS.f" target="_blank">http://us.f1f.yahoofs.com/bc/3f81cb96_119f5/bc/My+Documents/look+at+the+muscle+tone!.jpg?bfJUKwABohB5aS.f</a><br><br>
um, dunno if that link will work LOL. Basically, that is how he always stands, and pretend he is running... he looks like the michelin man on crack when he runs.<br><br>
I agree that everyone past the age of 50 would be bowlegged if diapers were the cause.<br><br>
eta- I suck at linking stuff, it appears it doesnt work <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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<span><i><b><br>
um, dunno if that link will work LOL. Basically, that is how he always stands, and pretend he is running... he looks like the michelin man on crack when he runs.</b></i></span><br><br><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><b>Aherne!! trying not to laugh myself to tears here....:LOL<br><br>
Anyway, my brother had this EXACT same problem, and had to wear a brace at night. His was a severe case, and with the help of corrective shoes, he walks fine, albeit maybe a bit like Urban Cowboy, but fine now<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Ya know, in at least my part of Texas, we got the Rodeo thing down pat!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br>
But, my older kiddos have feet problems as well. Ds actually wears corrective inserts and special tennis shoes etc. to help him. He couldn't even run before without tripping, now, he's able to! And, since ds had this problem, the doc decided to test dd and sure enough, she was developing the same problem. She also wears special shoes, no inserts yet, though. Hopefully ds #3 will not have to<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes"><br>
I am sure the Mister Wes will be fine. And, he's gorgeous!!</b></span></span>
 

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Aherne- It does sound as though it might be more than just the normal baby bowed legs. There is a condition called Blount's disease which is a more severe bowing that may need bracing. Rickets can also show up as bowing. It may also be perfectly normal and will resolve. The best thing would be to see a pediatric orthopedist who may want to get some xrays. Obviously (at least to us <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> ) it has nothing to do with the cd's. I recall other moms here that when they saw a ped.ortho were told it had nothing to do with their cd's after their ped told them it was due to cd. What can I say, Drs just aren't trained to accept some of the more crunchy practices though there are some <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hippie.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hippie"> Drs out there! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> I'm sure everything will be fine just get him checked for peace of mind if nothing else. I would take him in cloth (maybe whatever is trimmest). The ped my kids see isn't crunchy at all but always comments on Kate's cute dipes so some are accepting. HTH
 

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I am dealing with this righ now with my 22 mos old son. When did your ds start walking? Bow legs are very common in children before the age of 2. It typically resolves on its own 9-12 mos after they start walking. Early walking contributes more to bow legs. Has it gotten worse after he started walking? Do you have pictures to compare then and now? My ds' legs have gotten significantly worse over the last year. The diaper is not the cause, because he walks the same naked. We saw our dr who recommended a Ped Orthopaedist. We even got a second opinion about that and he also recommended seeing the ped ortho. For my son its not that he just has bow legs, his feet turn in so much that he trips himself. If you are concerned I would suggest taking him to your dr. He will be able to determine with examination if he needs further testing and treatment.<br><br>
You can google bow legs as well.<br><br>
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I agree with everyone who said that you should have him checked, but as a ray of hope I wanted to tell you that we have good friends who had every single one of their kids (five total) do that at around 18 months. They all walked on the outer surfaces of their feet as well (not the sides, but the outer corners of the bottoms)--and every one of them is a normal walker now. None needed correction either. So take him in for an evaluation, definitely, but have hope that it's absolutely no big deal.
 

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Many children have this issue about walking on the sides of their feet. It is actually due to a turning in at the hips. We did the bar at night, too. And then inserts in the shoes to throw the weight back to the other side.<br><br>
A major cause of the problem is:<br><br>
Sitting down on the floor with their legs bent at the knees and turned outward. Basically as if they were crawling, then sat back with their knees together and their legs bent outward.<br><br>
We watch this behavior very carefully now and it is very common for us to say "Fix your feet." My son learned how to correct his position by the time he was two.<br><br>
Most children do outgrow it, but some don't. An some orthopeds are more sensitive to it than others. Definitely have an orthoped take a look.
 

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I have no insight on the bowlegged thing but I do think you should send him in wearing a sposie just because you want the DR. (or public health nurse) to focus on your son and his walking and not waste time on a diapering discussion.<br><br>
It's hard to figure out who to see when you don't have a reg ped to refer you to an appropriate specialist (I don't do reg ped myself). I would suggest making a well baby apt with your local public health nurse. These visits are usually free and she ought to be very experienced with well baby screenning and know who to refer you to if needed.
 

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Can I ask an innocent question??? Please know that I am JUST CURIOUS, (not being judgemental at all). Why do some of you mama's not have reg. pediatricians? Are the doc's very 'anti-crunchy' where you are? Here, most of the peds that I know are pretty good. They let us do whatever, as long as the babies are healthy and growing well. I totally respect some of your decisions not to vax, etc, etc, but I don't understand not bringing the kiddos in the have checkups, even if it is to weigh and measure, and listen to their heart and lungs.<br>
Especially this poster, that states her babe is having walking difficulties. It must be bad enough that you are worried, and DH is worried. (DH sounds like he is quite experienced with walking issues). I would much rather hear that you choose not to bring the baby to a ped for some other personal reason other than you just don't drive.<br>
I would bring him to SOMEONE very soon. It sounds as if alot of these mamas have had similiar situations with good outcomes. You would want to correct this walking problem before it gets too advanced. I totally agree that this could be a hip issue. ONe thing that peds check for here at EVERY well baby visit is 'hip clicks' and hip alignment. I had congenital hip dysplasia as a child. It was caught at a well baby visit. My twin and I were cloth diapered <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> , and I was actually DOUBLE diapered to correct this problem. (sounds like the opposite huh?) but it is true. It turns the hips out and keeps the head of the femur (thigh bone) in the hip socket.<br>
I hope all turns out well with your son. And again, I am just looking to understand a different point of view <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love">
 

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I don't know about the OP, but even my pediatrician says well-baby visits aren't really necessary. The main thing they're for is to encourage compliance with vaccinations and to make sure the baby is growing normally. If you are looking at a fat, happy baby, know how to assess basic well-being, and you're not vaccinating, you can confine office visits to when there is an actual issue (these are her words, not mine). She wants to see newborns, of course, and the two-week visit to make sure that the baby has gained back his or her birthweight, but after that she said I could make my own decisions. I personally *like* WBVs, because I enjoy the weight check and the height check and everyone gets to coo over the baby, but I certainly don't think they're necessary for a child's health.<br><br>
Plainly, here there IS an issue, and the OP is totally willing to take her son to the doctor--it's not like she's refusing to see a pediatrician or specialist to get an answer and resolve the problem. Even if she had taken him to WBVs it's unlikely anything would have been done before now; lots of babies walk weirdly for a few months and I would think 18 months would be pretty normal for deciding, you know, this isn't going to resolve on its own so you probably should talk to someone.
 

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This is a very valid question. I know lots of moms do it for crunchy reasons, but mine are different. I have no money and terrible insurance. I had a childrens first nurse for my daughter and she came up until Ellie was two and she also weighed Wesley as well (until he was one) then they stop coming. He was a little bow-legged at that time but not as bad as now. So for the first two years of Ellies life and the first year of Wesleys life I did have someone check up on us regular. But they come for two years- for your first child only.<br><br>
I called the health department and they do free well baby check-ups, but it is darn near IMPOSSIBLE to get an appointment. They open it up one month at a time and all the appointments are gone withen the hour. This is second month now. They do vax there and you just show up, for me it is a personal choice to not vax until they are two years old- but I do intend to fully vax. Ellie is one set behind and Wesley hasnt started yet. Anyway, with my insurance I have to pay 100% of the first $1,000 PER person before they start paying 80% there is no $15 doctor co pay or anything either. It wasnt until my mom and grandma lovingly pointed out that it looked like a problem to them that I really thought about it. Dh grandma had gone off on the cloth diaper = bowlegged and I sort of ignored her since it pressed my buttons. My dh didnt say anything until I asked him the other day. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"><br><br>
After all the good advice here <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"> I just called our state insurance and it looks like we *might* squeak under the income guidelines and I can get health insurance (100%) and I will take him in just for a peace of mind. I had such a PITA since Ellie was on state insurance and I kept getting notices that it was going to be cancelled and I called my caseworker a thousand times and never heard back. I got frustrated and just added them to my dh insurance at work (even though I cant really afford to use it) If I dont qualify, I will take him in anyway and just figure it out. The idea of one visit is okay, but the thought of braces and repeat visits would just screw us over. But again, he's my baby. Even if he does run like Lord of the Dance <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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oh right... I should share. I brought wesley to one well baby visit and he DID get one set of shots. I took him to the second visit and high tailed my arse out of there...<br><br>
1. he was a little behind so they wanted to "double up" on a shot and tried to tell me that it was safe. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: I said no way.<br><br>
2. I am sick of hearing how fat he is- when people say it in a bad way. After talking with my nurse whom I loved, I got used to not going. She assured me that he was growing normally and healthy, even if he was a might bigger than charts.<br><br>
okay- does this work??<br><a href="http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v109/princessaherne/Wesley/?action=view&current=pdtdiaper_003rs.jpg" target="_blank">http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/...aper_003rs.jpg</a> this is the best picture that I could find. You can see how one foot he is leaning on the side... that is how he walks and runs, his legs that far apart.
 

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Many insurance's don't pay for well baby checkup's and if you have insurance you often don't qualify for other health finantial aid.<br><br>
In addition to the money issue, my <i>personal experience</i> is that, yes it is common for ped's and Dr's to be unpleasant and/or ignorant about things such as BFing, cloth diapering, non traditional vax schedules, and co-sleeping.
 

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Thanks for the replies, you have enlightened me. Aherne, your son is soooooooooooo cute <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"> HE IS NOT FAT at all! Actually, he kinda looks like the shape of me DD!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> On his leg position, I am no orthopod, but it does look like a hip issue, or the way his upper thigh bones are sitting in the hip socket. If you have the means, I would have it checked out! I hope your situation with insurance improves. I take for granted sometimes that DH have good jobs with good insurance. We are both RN's that have access to many doctor 'friends'. We have an excellent pedi for my DD, that thinks it is great that I cd. Most all the medical professionals in this area are extremely pro breastfeeding. I wish all you mamas had this. Good luck with your son, he is precious!
 

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About the whole dr visits thing. I don't go unless there is a problem. No well baby visits here. I won't go into all the reasons in the this forum though... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
I don't have insurance and I still got a referal for a ped ortho for 2 reasons:<br><br>
1) if I was just being overly protective I wanted to hear it from my dr who I know and save myself some money.<br><br>
2) Some specialists won't see you unless you have a referal with or without insurance.<br><br>
But I will say, time is of the essence. If there is a problem the longer you let it go the worse it will get. It could take MONTHS to get in with a ped ortho, so keep that in mind.<br><br>
Heres my linky: <a href="http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=2726010&uid=1414511" target="_blank">http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/...10&uid=1414511</a><br><br>
Joes my little guy with the leg issues. You can see how his right leg especially curves right below the knee.<br><br>
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Oh my goodness, he's absolutely munchable!!!! Don't you just want to nibble on him. . I LOVE baby rolls!!!<br><br>
BTW, I tend to agree with the other the pp, I know how hard it can be w/ $/ins./gov red tape etc- but get him to a specialist so you don't end up with bigger problems down the road.
 
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