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<span style="font-family:Garamond;"><span style="font-size:x-large;"><span><b>The ONE thread April 29 - May 5</b></span></span><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/fencing.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="fencing">: <span style="font-size:large;"><span style="color:#0000FF;">Waiting to O</span></span> <span style="color:#0000FF;"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/fencing.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="fencing">:<br><span style="font-size:medium;"><br>
alegna<br>
angel1895 <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/angel1895" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/angel1895</a><br>
Angierae<br>
AnonymousK <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/anonymousk" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/anonymousk</a><br>
barose <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1737b0" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1737b0</a><br>
carrie24<br>
Christy1980 <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/cc044" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/cc044</a><br>
FiberLover <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18dabb" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18dabb</a><br>
fierrbugg <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/15e65" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/15e65</a><br>
folaboye <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/122d89" target="_blank">www.fertilityfriend.com/home/122d89</a><br>
girlie1125<br>
greenegirl <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1410c4" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1410c4</a><br>
Harmoni <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/harmoni" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/harmoni</a><br>
hazeleyes <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b40af" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b40af</a><br>
hlnmommy <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/15092b" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/15092b</a><br>
illumini <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4910" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4910</a><br>
kJad29 <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/14d49d" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/14d49d</a><br>
Jezzy <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1631b5" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1631b5</a><br>
Jokerama<br>
mischievium <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18dd6b" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18dd6b</a><br>
Mamatothree <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/19150c" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/19150c</a><br>
Mamazon <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/AngelaS" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/AngelaS</a><br>
mkmama<br>
mommy_in_chaos <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/144b43" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/144b43</a><br>
mommy2nathan <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/17f8ca" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/17f8ca</a><br>
MoonGypsy <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1531c5" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1531c5</a><br>
mosesface <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/mosesface" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/mosesface</a><br>
Nimbus <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/19aa9e" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/19aa9e</a><br>
ourdomicile <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/17c22f" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/17c22f</a><br>
Ovafertilberg <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18c938" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18c938</a><br>
Pookietooth <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18f765" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18f765</a><br>
rmzbm<br>
Romana9+2<br>
SarahJen <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/13e6de" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/13e6de</a><br>
ShaneMK<br>
smokeylo <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10a71a" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10a71a</a><br>
spiritmomma <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/14a202" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/14a202</a><br>
Steffie <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/dd470" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/dd470</a><br>
suzywan<br>
teniprice<br>
TrishWSU <a href="http://forums.ovusoft.com/chart.asp?id=trishwsu" target="_blank">http://forums.ovusoft.com/chart.asp?id=trishwsu</a><br>
yogachick<br></span></span><span style="font-size:medium;"><br></span><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/carrot.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="carrot"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/banana.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="banana"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/broc1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Broccoli">: <span style="font-size:large;"><span>Waiting to Know</span></span> <span><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/carrot.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="carrot"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/banana.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="banana"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/broc1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Broccoli">:<br><span style="font-size:medium;"><br>
Abylite<br>
flapjack<br>
fotomama<br>
GathererGirl <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/17c411" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/17c411</a><br>
ItyBty <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1505ef" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1505ef</a><br>
joshs_girl <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/144659" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/144659</a><br>
Jujubie <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/19d493" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/19d493</a><br>
Kelly1216<br>
lafletcher80<br>
massaginmommy <a href="http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=massaginmommy" target="_blank">http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=massaginmommy</a><br>
melluvslogan<br>
NadiaLadida <a href="http://www.tcoyf.com/chart.asp?id=nmstepp" target="_blank">http://www.tcoyf.com/chart.asp?id=nmstepp</a><br>
Nicole!<br>
noorjahan <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/noorjahan" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/noorjahan</a><br>
punquin <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/punquin" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/punquin</a><br>
ValarieR <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ValarieR" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ValarieR</a><br>
zahirakids <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1989e1" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1989e1</a><br></span></span><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes"><span><span style="font-size:large;">Sitting on the Fence</span> <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes"><br><span style="font-size:medium;"><br>
cking <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1434da" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1434da</a><br>
pnutS4us <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/spinnerz" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/spinnerz</a><br></span><br></span><span><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/tiphat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Tiphat">: <span style="font-size:large;">Waiting to be Ready</span> <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/tiphat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Tiphat">:<br><span style="font-size:medium;"><br>
Alexa<br>
Angierae <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/108279" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/108279</a><br>
Baby Makes 4<br>
Bex80<br>
Crunchyandsweet <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18334c" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18334c</a><br>
cyrusmama <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/16edb7" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/16edb7</a><br>
jannyjo <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1befc" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1befc</a><br>
mama_nym<br>
mama2babybeans<br>
MamaSweetP<br>
mamimapster<br>
maylea_moon<br>
megincl +ktcl <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11575d" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11575d</a><br>
mightymoo<br>
Montanamarvel<br>
mtnsunshinemama<br>
rosidox<br>
sapphire_chan <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/Sapphire_chan" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/Sapphire_chan</a><br>
saskiasmom<br>
SereneBabe<br>
snozzberry <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/173405" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/173405</a><br>
True Blue <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2aa4d" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2aa4d</a><br>
Wednesday<br></span></span><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/headscratch.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="headscratch"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"><span style="font-size:large;"><span>WTF is Going on With My Body?!</span></span> <span><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/headscratch.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="headscratch"><br><span style="font-size:medium;"><br>
ladystarlyn<br>
lynnie2138<br>
MamaHippo<br>
mamamerle <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/mamamerle" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/mamamerle</a><br>
widdlelou <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/14e5b4" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/14e5b4</a><br></span><br></span><span style="color:#008080;"><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/sleeping.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="sleeping"><span style="font-size:large;">Taking a Break</span> <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/sleeping.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="sleeping"><br><span style="font-size:medium;"><br><br></span></span><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/luxlove.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="throb"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="color:#0000FF;">March BFPs</span></span> <span style="color:#0000FF;"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/luxlove.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="throb"><br><span style="font-size:medium;"><br>
AimeeandBrian<br>
bgb699 <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/146477" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/146477</a><br>
FiberLover <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18dabb" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18dabb</a> <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angel.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angel"><br>
fortunategrrl <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1e4b" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1e4b</a><br>
jillybeans <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/jillybeans" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/jillybeans</a><br>
MamaHippo<br>
Shelley4<br>
Taradactyl3</span></span><span style="font-size:medium;"><br></span><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/pos.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="positive"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/fingersx.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="fingersx">: <span style="font-size:large;"><span>April BFPs</span></span> <span><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/fingersx.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="fingersx">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/pos.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="positive"><br><span style="font-size:medium;"><br>
Angierae <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angel.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angel"><br>
bobandjess99<br>
Chavaleh<br>
expectantmami <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/17e140" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/17e140</a><br>
Mom2Wilmo<br>
stellimamo <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/17a855" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/17a855</a><br>
sunflwrmoonbeam <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/141b5e" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/141b5e</a><br>
zjande <a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10f355" target="_blank">http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10f355</a></span></span></span>
 

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Please make any <b>changes in bold</b>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">well Last night I noticed EWCM and checked to make sure it wasn't sperm by putting it in water and it did not dissolve so we BD well this AM my temp shot up to that magical number 98.2 ? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: and then I waited a couple mins. and took it again and it was still 98.2 Any ideas?</div>
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I think that means you O'd yesterday! Congrats! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/jumpers.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="jumpers">:
 

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Nice thread <b>joshs_girl</b>!!!!! Thanks for being the threadkeeper!!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
Thanks everyone for the optimistic thoughts!! I was talking to my MIL last night, she lives far far away from here <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> and she was saying how she is praying to God for me so that I am blessed with a baby soon. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/loveeyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Loveeyes">:<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;"><b>Noor</b>, popping in to let you look at my chart!<br><a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/jillybeans" target="_blank">My preg chart</a></div>
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<b>Jillybeans</b>, thanks for popping in here to show your chart!!! That was nice!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> I'm still holding on to hope for this cycle!<br><br><b>Zahirakids</b>, looks like you O'ed yesterday! Good luck!
 

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Can you O without any symptoms ?
 

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I'm sure you can!<br><br>
Before I charted or knew details about O, I'm sure I still o'ed last 14 years but had no clue about any symptoms. But now that I know...and observe so closely what my body is doing I look for the symptom as well. I hope I'm making sense in what I am saying!
 

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I'm sure you can - but I think the EWCM you saw was a pretty big sign!
 

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I understand and I am not sure how closely I observe my body. I know I had acne on my face for the past couple days, yesterday I was tired but have had an definite increase in sex drive. I thought I had a slight backache but it didn't last long..other than that I can't think of any other symptoms ....
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I understand and I am not sure how closely I observe my body. I know I had acne on my face for the past couple days, yesterday I was tired but have had an definite increase in sex drive. I thought I had a slight backache but it didn't last long..other than that I can't think of any other symptoms ....</div>
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Zahira,<br>
My O symptoms (if I'm not temping or checking my cervix) are EWCM and high sex drive, and sometimes emotional swings. I don't get pain or breakouts or anything that would otherwise let me know. My cervix does get HS when I ovulate if I'm checking that. So it looks like you did exactly what you needed to do yesterday!
 

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So, BIG question here - hopefully some of you wise women can help me out.<br><br>
I started spotting today - 11-12DPO - and my breasts, though still a bit sore, aren't as sore as they were yesterday. If AF is coming it is 3 days early. The only other time it has been early was 2 months ago when we had a oops. Generally, it is 27 days without fail. These two months when there was a chance for conception it has started at 24 days. Now I'm willing to believe that the spotting is implantation, but it's unlikely with the waning of breast soreness, which always happens for me at the beginning of AF.<br><br>
So, after all that, my question is, are fertilized eggs taking a nosedive right after faulty implantation? Like the spotting is implantation spotting, but due to an issue, is going right into AF? I had a positive OPK on CD 11 and GIT several days in a row, so our timing was good..... And I usually have a 14 day LP. Should I wait a few more cycles to see if these months were just a fluke or should I contact my midwife to see if she has any suggestions?<br><br>
TIA!!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">So, after all that, my question is, are fertilized eggs taking a nosedive right after faulty implantation? Like the spotting is implantation spotting, but due to an issue, is going right into AF? I had a positive OPK on CD 11 and GIT several days in a row, so our timing was good..... And I usually have a 14 day LP. Should I wait a few more cycles to see if these months were just a fluke or should I contact my midwife to see if she has any suggestions?<br><br>
TIA!!</div>
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Could you POAS to see if you are PG? At 11DPO, you stand a reasonable chance of getting a BFP if you are. Do you temp as well? Based on what happened on your "oops" cycle, do you expect AF to show today?
 

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I POAS yesterday with FMU and got a BFN <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
I was going to skip today, but after the spotting took a test with rather diluted urine (third, um, go of the day) and got a BFN again. The the bbs stopped hurting so much and so I gave up hope. If I base anything on the oops month, I should get AF in full force. One other thing making it different than usual - if I do spot before AF (on none BD cycles) I first spot browm. These months it starts red then goes to brown???
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I POAS yesterday with FMU and got a BFN <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
I was going to skip today, but after the spotting took a test with rather diluted urine (third, um, go of the day) and got a BFN again. The the bbs stopped hurting so much and so I gave up hope. If I base anything on the oops month, I should get AF in full force. One other thing making it different than usual - if I do spot before AF (on none BD cycles) I first spot browm. These months it starts red then goes to brown???</div>
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I think thats a good sign! Since brown=old, that should mean your spotting has stop.<br><br>
Hopefully AF will keep her face away and this was just from implantation!!
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>zahirakids</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/7983368"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">well Last night I noticed EWCM and checked to make sure it wasn't sperm by putting it in water and it did not dissolve so we BD well this AM my temp shot up to that magical number 98.2 ? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: and then I waited a couple mins. and took it again and it was still 98.2 Any ideas?</div>
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It definitely looks like you O'd, and caught it in time!!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/jumpers.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="jumpers">: I'm thinking you're in for the 2ww now.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Can you O without any symptoms ?</div>
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I'm sure it's possible, but I think most bodies give clues. I also get W or EWCM, an increased sex drive, and often feel a little pinch on the side I'm ovulating. Unfortunately, it seems the only sure symptom is the temp rise, which comes after it's already happened.
 

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suzywan, I hope this is a good sign. I usually have a 14 day LP though, and my AF just started three days early after a bfp- so for me, early bleeding seems to equal conception. I have a memory that AF came early the month after Alex was conceived (regular menstruation until I was 16 weeks along) but it's so long ago I couldn't swear to it.<br>
Actually, that's another question for you mamas- my temperature hasn't dropped below last month's coverline yet. Is this unusual? Am I still broken? The last m/c that I charted through, my temps were down by day 2, and I'm now on day 4 of the new cycle.
 

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joshs_girl Thanks for the new thread!<br><br><br>
So, I made a deal with myself last night. I wouldn't POAS today if my temp had dropped further this morning. Well, it went up again, so I tested and got a BFN. I'll test again this coming week if AF doesn't show. I don't know how long to wait though. AF usually comes on day 30, but I O'd about four days late, so maybe it won't come until day 34. Anyhow, I'm not feeling pregnant and do feel premenstrual, so I think I'll wait until the later day.
 

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Nimbus, I know this doesn't help when you've already seen a BFN this morning, but FWIW, I think your chart still looks fantastic!!
 

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So, of course I can't leave well enough alone. When I bear down (like making a movement, so to speak <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> ) I still get red blood - Not bright though. CP *seems* high and hard, but can't say for sure.<br><br>
Must be a fluke - think I will start tempting next month.<br><br>
Thanks for all your help!
 

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Good Morning...<br><br>
CD28 12-13DPO... No signs either way. My temp is still high, which is unusual considering the past.
 

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If this is AF, would today be CD1 because I did see red blood, not just brown spotting?
 
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