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<p>WHO papers I've read on the subject have mostly been regarding available injection supplies, sterilization, and the training of the individuals administering the injections; not so much about vaccine safety directly as vaccine-related supplies and personnel.</p>
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[member234098]

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<p>A big part of "available injection supplies" is reuse of needles.  <img alt="shrug.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/shrug.gif">   As mentioned previously on this board, I have myself been stuck with a previously used needle in a country more developed than many but where nevertheless people often can't afford medical care and medical care providers often can't afford supplies. That this is problematic is not a secret, in any country.</p>

 

[Jane93]

<p>You're acting as if this is some crazy new thing.  Congress adopted the Hague Convention -- this Act just incorporates certain pre-existing exemptions that were lost due to that adoption and/or clarifies that they are also to apply to Hague convention countries.  </p>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>miriam</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1316144/the-privilege-of-being-vaccinated-in-a-first-world-country-is-there-really-a-difference-in-being-vaccinated-in-the-u-s-or-in-a-foreign-country#post_16489260"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>So you are going for #3?</p>
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<p>I do not believe that WHO would admit to numbers 1 or 2. </p>
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<p>Why would this even be an issue? Why would Congress even concern itself with this?</p>
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<br><br><p>This is a very important issue to people who are involved in foreign adoptions, that is why Congress should concern themselves with this.  SB 1376 allows waivers of the immigration immunization requirements for children adopted from Hague partner countries.  Many children adopted internationally are un-vaccinated, under-vaccinated or records have been poorly kept.  This Bill makes it possible for the child to come home to the US without having to get caught up in sometimes less than ideal locations.  In addition, in the US the child will be able to have tests to check their immunity and therefore not have to get re-vaccinated if their vaccine records are not available.  This is a good law, I'm not sure why someone would use it to try to prove an argument that vaccines are bad.</p>

 

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[Jane93]

<p>Way to make the perfect the enemy of the good.</p>
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<p>Better record-keeping and availability of injection supplies are very important, and yes the WHO and other concerned organizations should be (and I assume are) working on these issues.  This doesn't mean that vaccinations (like the measles vaccination) are not life-saving in the third world and should not be performed.</p>
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<p>It would also be great if these children had sure access to clean water and many of the other niceties that we take for granted here.  Your point is?</p>
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[Jane93]

<p>Also, having been sick in a foreign country (Greece), there is a lot of apprehension around having medical procedures performed in a way that (though competent) may deviate from what you're used to.  My mom hated that my doctor gave me an injection without wearing gloves (even though the doctor pointed out that the gloves were more protection for him than me). </p>
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<p>I'm sure that most adoptive parents would rather their kids get injected in a nice pediatrician's office in Minnetoka than a public clinic in Africa. </p>

 

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<p>Better record-keeping and availability of injection supplies are very important, and yes the WHO and other concerned organizations should be (and I assume are) working on these issues. </p>
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<br><p>Indeed they are.  The whole purpose of there even being relevant papers is assessing the state of things to determine where there are problems, to develop strategies for rectifying issues, and to track progress in making improvements.  </p>
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<p>Heck, even just browsing around ... <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=10&q=related:ZGDfk6nvvsIJ:scholar.google.com/&hl=en&as_sdt=0,31" target="_blank">http://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=10&q=related:ZGDfk6nvvsIJ:scholar.google.com/&hl=en&as_sdt=0,31</a></p>