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It was inevitable, as DH is a railroad fanatic and so DS has been exposed to toy trains and REAL trains from an early age. We showed him a Thomas video about 6 mos. ago but it was one where the trains crashed and he cried, so we didn't get any others.<br><br>
Then he saw a bit of Thomas on PBS and cried when it was OVER last week. So I bought the Thomas' Snowy Surprise CD last week and he loves it. Except for a few stories that again, have crashing trains (why do they do that? ): he is crazy for it and asks over and over to watch it...<br><br>
Here I have been limiting his tv to just when I am in the shower but now with Thomas that's ruined! (No dvd player upstairs).<br><br>
Guess I am just interested in hearing from other moms about your Thomas experience. I am kind of hesitant to buy any Thomas toys which will only fuel the obsession although I suspect he would love them! I have created a monster here.<br><br>
While I feel it is higher quality programming than many other shows, it's still tv and again those crashing train episodes and the ones where they get banged up bother him AND me.<br><br>
Do you buy other Thomas stuff and do you find it increases the demand for the videos?<br><br>
I am probably over analyzing this and just need to do as I did tonight...break out the Play Doh to head off any Thomas video requests! LOL
 

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My ds is 2.5 and really get's into Thomas the Tank Engine, too.<br><br>
I hear you about the train crashes - these happen in most episodes!!! Yes, they disturbed us as well at first but then I reflected on the overall moral of the stories.<br><br>
Thomas the tank engine was written by a reverend (a religious dude) not that this is any excuse for train crashes! But most of the stories are about reward and punishment concepts, right and wrong, 'cheeky' and 'useful', broken and fixed. The thing that bothered me about these 'accidents' was the mention that "no one was hurt" when this is an unrealistic expectation in most train crashes - but then it did reassure us a little.<br><br>
We collected all the die cast toys from the take along thomas series - the one's with the smart magnets that join the engines/coaches together. Ds would re create the crashes - and I believe he has learnt alot during his obbsesion with Thomas - and say "Oh no! Crash" We used his obbsession to further teach him lessons or to get a point accross.<br><br>
When he is running around the house showing off I tell him "be carefull or you'll hurt yourself!" and when he bumps into something I soothe him first and then say something like; "You troublesome truck! Mummy told you to be carefull but you were going too fast like the trucks - and you crashed, too! Oh no, crash! Are you ok?" and he smiles, understanding what message I'm trying to get across. He knows that crashes are bad and that they hurt - and now he mock gasps when he see's an engine crash and tells it to be carefull!! Awww. how cute!<br><br>
I thought that indulging his obsession wasn't going to hurt him - he learnt heaps of positive stuff too from Thomas and managed to put the standard climating crashes in to perspective. He's settled down alot on the thomas front - and his obsession is now just a strong like. He is playing with his toy guitar right now and loves wheels and cars, so there is light at the end of the Thomas obsession tunnel. He used to play with his toy engines the most but now they have been abandoned for more interesting things - like outside.<br><br>
I think it's normal for small toddlers to get obsessed with a favorite tv show - we enjoy our's and not ever episode of something we watch is free of tradgedy. Tradgedy is entertaining and if no one is hurt (even if this is unrealistic) then it is probably ok to let them watch it. My baby sister (15years my junior) was really into bananna's in pajamma's. She was obsessed with it ... and she is now a normal healthy 11 year old girl. Toddlers and small children learn through repitition - which is why we chant 'mum - mum - mum - mum' at our babies in an attempt to teach them what to call us.<br><br>
I think Thomas is cool! Don't worry so much - just talk about these episodes with your ds and don't overlook the positive aspects of the experience!!!<br><br>
With love from starlite.
 

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Boy after reading this- I am glad our obsession is Elmo! You ladies make me smile! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br>
But I would be saying the same thing about the crash thing.<br><br>
I too am soooo sick of the Elmo DVD I bought. or her saying "Watch Elmo birthday??" :LOL
 

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My 3 -yr-old is a Thomas fan(atic) too. I don't have a problem with the crashes as they are part of the consequences of choices ... and I think little kids (even toddlers) need ways to express negative feelings and fears, and this part of the stories addresses that. Except that Rowan has occasionally left Thomas at preschool (and been horribly upset that we wouldn't rush right over there to get him), it's been pretty positive. We have the wooden trains and track, and he will get more this Christmas. It's also nice to have something easy to tell the grandparents for gifts! They are much less likely to get something I don't want him to have now. They even took him to see the "real" Thomas train when it came to our local train museum--they all had a blast and Rowan still talks about it!<br><br>
My 16 year old was a Thomas fan at this stage, too. And DP's nephew, who is 11, has a huge collection he still plays with. I think it's fine--and much less annoying than many other toddler obsessions I've witnessed. (Barney, anyone?)
 

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I just wish they didn't have QUITE so many crashes..<br><br>
DS is only 20 mos. so I think right now isn't always catching the whole plot line of WHY the crashes occur, you know? He isn't realizing yet that someone's bad choices caused it. He just sees crash and oh, no, the trains must have boo-boos! We keep talking about it though.<br><br>
I imagine he will get a Thomas railroad eventually. DH wants him to have a proper train set and it will likely be Thomas!<br><br>
Glad to know it has been a positive influence for your boys!
 

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Our DS has also become a Thomas fanatic. Not sure how though, because we're not into trains at all. He started the other way though--both of our excellent local children's bookstores also sell quality toys, including Thomas, and both have Thomas Tables set up. Andrew would pull himself up on these tables and hang onto the trains before he could even walk. We could spend HOURS there! So, we bought a small Thomas set for his first birthday, gave him the trains, and put the track away til he was older. The set came with a free Thomas DVD, which we never bothered to do anything with. One day about four months ago, he found this DVD, and carried it around for days, saying "choo-choo Thomas" the whole time! So, I decided to see if he would watch it--this is a child who really doesn't watch TV much at all, and I wasn't interested in starting him, and to be honest, I didn't realise I would create a monster. But I did. He now gets up at 6 am (well, he always got up at 6 am, that's not new), and his first words are "Daddy, choo-choo please". EVERY morning.<br><br>
I agree with the previous posts about the crashes. And they do seem to destroy a lot of Silly Freight Cars, don't they? But it is a gentle show in that there are no quick transitions, or flashing and loud noises going on. I quite enjoy it myself, and I was familiar with the books from when I was young as well. And it's amazing how much his vocabulary has increased since he started watching Thomas as well.<br><br>
I guess we should be glad it's not Barney! That's what I keep telling DH anyway!<br><br>
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Not Thomas related, but video/toy related. My daughter received a Fisher Price Little People video as part of a welcome home gift. I popped it in one day when she was about 10 months old, and she wasn't really interested in it. When she turned a year old, she got a few Little People sets as gifts, and LOVED them. I pulled out the video again, thinking she'd recognize the characters, but she still wasn't interested. She might still be too young to see the similarities between a character and its TV show, though. Or she might not like TV. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><br>
As for Thomas, she's definitely obsessed with the toys, but hasn't seen the TV show. We have a toystore near our house, that has the Thomas train table set up, and she loves to go in there and play with the trains (and throws a mini tantrum when it's time to leave). My parents, without knowing that she likes Thomas trains so much, bought her a starter kit for Christmas. I can't wait to see her face when she opens it up. I don't think I'll be buying her any Thomas stuff, though. $20-$30 per CAR is ridiculous, hehe. But if her grandparents want to collect them for her, they can go right ahead.
 

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Both my kids like Thomas, but it's my 3 yo daughter who's obsessed. Should I be worried that she particularly enjoys the crashes?<br><br>
We inherited a train table from my sister, and it was the toy she used to learn to pull up and cruise around. It had an amazing track system attached, and she loved to push the cars around, and I loved it because I didn't have to constantly set up tracks that she would instantly take apart.<br><br>
Eventually we got some videos, and now it's a full obsession. We have puzzles, a pull along train, the bubble push Thomas, heaven knows how many trains, and plenty of books.<br><br>
I personally don't like the videos. I think it's weird that the trains have personalities and that they can move themselves, even though they have drivers. But I like the stories, and the messages. And having seen some other toddler shows (Tubbies, Barney, Boobah, etc.,.) I'm glad we're a Thomas family.<br><br>
A few weeks ago we drove to CT to attend the Day Out With Thomas and take a ride on the train. She was so excited when he pulled into the station she cried. It was fun.<br><br>
Any other little girls who love Thomas? People either don't believe me or think my daughter is weird. She can be very girly at times, but I'm glad she loves trains and trucks.<br><br>
Take care!
 

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When Ken's folks took Rowan to the Day Out with Thomas, they said there were about 4 boys for every girl, but there were definitely girls there, too.<br><br>
Rowan has started telling me what he wants for Christmas--and that he wants to sit in Santa's lap and tell him that he wants the Breakdown Train and Henry. Last year he was scared of Santa! (I didn't even try--we just watched the other kids from behind the rope).<br><br>
He likes to reenact some of the video stories, but he always has his own little twist on them. And he likes to act out crashes, avalanches, etc., but I've noticed he is in general in a phase of talking about "scary" things and working them out for himself, so I think it's just another aspect of that. He seems to be handling scary situations better now, so maybe it's all part of the process.
 

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I'm glad we're not alone in our Thomas obsession. I am just looking forward to when it wears off a little. I mean, he is asking to watch the dvd first thing in the morning, after snack, after lunch, after nap, after dinner, etc.<br><br>
I don't indulge every request but sometimes I'll start it out of desperation and then he'll want to stop watching if a "scary" one comes on. He'll say "done" and we can go on to something else.<br><br>
I am really considering buying him a Thomas toy so that he can indulge the obsession in some way other than staring at the tv screen.<br><br>
I agree, they are slower-paced and better quality than so many shows. They are quirky and kind of unique. A little strange, I agree with the previous poster! The trains moving themselves, for example, the drivers are present but have no real personality and don't do much, and the rather odd expressions the trains have sometimes.<br><br>
I'll second the notion that it's a lot better than Barney, though!
 

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DS is obsessed with trains. I have wanted to avoid Thomas trains and other THomas stuff because of the obsessions I think might be negative.<br><br>
Mamas experienced with Thomas obsessions please let me know if I'm wrong.<br><br>
My concerns:<br><br>
Thomas has been marketed very well - it feels very commercial - encouraging kids to buy! buy! buy! there are so many things to choose from.<br><br>
Kids are really involved with the videos - so much so that their train play becomes limited - they begin to act out only what happens on the train.<br><br>
Combining the above two concerns - (my examples are guesses - I don't know the exact scenarios) a child watches a video with a train getting messy with mud - thus child needs a muddy train, then child watches video where the same train gets coal dust on it - thus child wants a train with coal dust.<br><br>
The trains on the videos are not very nice to each other (but that is reality isn't it? toddlers/preschoolers can be not nice and have frustrations.<br><br><br>
Well, saying all that - I do need to mention that I bought the simple figure 8 set with the water tower (DS really enjoyed playing with the water tower at the store). I plan on covering up Thomas's face. (Trains with faces really creap me out) The train set was at a really good price. I had planned on getting a basic Brio set or a basic Maxim set, but changed my mind.<br><br>
Am I being overly picky and worried over something so small?<br>
Have you noticed these things that I consider to be problems? Do you think they are problems?
 
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