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ok, i just heard about this case on the today show. here it is if you're not familiar...<br><br>
michelle and edward wernecke of corpus christi, TX just had their family taken away from them by CPS b/c they refused to preventatively treat their 12 Y O dd with radiation. her cancer is currently gone but all the docs are saying to do radiation, which they and their dd don't want. they said they are open to alternative treatments.<br><br>
someone please, please help me contact this poor family! i did a search online but no luck on an email add. i worked with a woman who was receiving natural cancer treatments through diet and have read of many success stories about this. i would love to see this family get the info they need about natural cancer therapies if that is what they are interested in. i am sure the gerson institute would back them up (home of the gerson therapy cancer treatment).<br><br>
i am furious about this case! it just makes me ill to think that they would be so quick to take her and her brothers away when the parents have been going along with her treatments prior to this. besides, IMO, it istheir absolute right to make INFORMED decisions. i am so sick of the medical community ignoring cancer therapies that WORK. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
thanks to anyone who has info on this.
 

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I saw this too, and was appalled by it!! I can't believe that they took this child away from her parents, for medical neglect because they don't want her to get preventative radiation! Next they'll take children away who aren't vaccinated or put on medication for add! Ugh! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"> I hope that the courts overturn this! I am so very angry, and upset. I can't find it, but there is a great book on alternative treatments for cancer and cancer prevention.
 

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This is terrible!<br><br>
What if they had refused treatment for religious reasons? Would it have been ok then? I know around here JW refuse certain medical treatments all the time due to their religion.
 

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Found a link for a website for them <a href="http://prayforkatie.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">link</a><br><br>
What's more they took the other kids away too. Talk about punitive. And mom's in jail now.<br><br>
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I can't believe this!<br><br><br>
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That is so so wrong. If my kid had cancer, I would do Hoxsey treatment before radiation and chemo (there used to be 17 clinics in the US until they got ran out by the government for curing cancer, now they are in Tijuana, Mexico but have a San Ysidro, CA mailing addy) It's not like they dont want treatment at all, they just dont want to put the girl through more! That poor family. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Blood transfusions is the only thing that we refuse religiously and even then, sometimes we get taken to court over it if it involves kids, and we even have alternatives. I have two friends who have had blood transfusions forced onto their kids by court order. They (medical professionals) were not willing to even try the alternatives (which some hospitals even prefer because they are safer.)
 

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That is so, so wrong.<br>
Poor family. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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I heard about this family, but I did not know they'd taken the other kids, too. That is ridiculous. It is not as if the parents refused all treatment. I have no words.
 

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This sort of thing breaks my heart. I'm an RN and I'll be a nurse practitioner in August (graduating with my MSN). There is no reason, certainly no legal reason, that I can think of that would or should ever allow the state to take away children from a family in these conditions. I have seen families who beat their children, children who are so neglected that they are filthy without clean dishes or fresh food and these children are not removed from their homes. Here is a family that is caring and reasonable -- what are the "authorities" thinking!?<br><br>
Medical science is a lot of things -- many of them for the "greater good" -- but one thing it isn't is guaranteed. There is no guarantee that ANY treatment will prevent or cure cancer. Period. Of course it has to be the patient's choice, or the guardian of the patient in the case of minors, it's called informed consent and I believe it's the law (informed refusal is contained within that process, and is fully valid). There are too many variables to conclude that one way is the only right way.<br><br>
Grrr....!<br><br>
I guess the physicians involved haven't read the research regarding stress and it's impact on healing. These "doctors" are doing more damage than good, separating this girl and her sibs from their family.
 

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I saw this this morning and posted a thread that must have gotten lost. it really upsets me. On top of it they said if the cancer came back they would do the radiation!<br><br>
I also read somewhere that you can refuse treatment for medical reasons BUT they must be established in the religion and not the persons interpretation of it.<br>
I read also that a judge said the boys could be returned if the home was in adequit order and the children weren't in danger.<br><br><br>
oh but i am pissed about this<br><br>
texas, go figure
 

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a little update:<br><a href="http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3218354" target="_blank">link</a>
 

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OK, everybody realizes that when people are OK with the government denying a minor ward of the state her right to an abortion, and the government getting involved with a husband's medical decision for his braindead wife, and crap like that, THIS IS WHAT IT LEADS TO, right?<br><br>
Good, just checking.
 

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Kristin, that is an excellent point. I hadn't put all that together in my mind. But upon hearing you say it, you are of course, correct.
 

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What if they had refused treatment for religious reasons? Would it have been ok then? I know around here JW refuse certain medical treatments all the time due to their religion.</div>
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they are being portrayed as religious fanatics also b/c they have apparently denied blood transfusions on her or something in the past b/c of their religion. this is absolute BS! they should be allowed to make decisions based on their religion!!!
 

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Yah, I just saw this in another article I saw today. Which I find totally ridiculous. They haven't denied her blood transfusions. They've denied blood transfusions from anyone but her mother. And if her mother is compatible, I honestly don't see the issue. It isn't like blood transfusions are totally safe and no one has EVER gotten a fatal disease from them <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">.<br><br>
So if they go ahead with the radiation, against the parents and the girl's wishes (and at 12, you really do need to take those into consideration as well) and she then suffers from one of the serious radiation side effects, what then? Is the state liable? The doctors? How can it be informed consent when you don't have the option to refuse?
 

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Okay, how can we say that we have the freedom of religion in this country if people are being discriminated against regarding medical decisions they make out of respect for their religion??!! And what ever happened to the separation of church and state??!!<br>
Have the ACLU gotten involved in this at all? They usually step in for people in situations like this...<br>
How sad...it scares me to think what our government thinks they have "the right" to do these days. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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the girl and her mother are not a match, but they eventually let her get a the transfusion anyways with someone else's blood.<br><br>
why does the church of God allow transfusions other then from the mother? and why not the father? The child is half father? (just honest curiosity)<br><br>
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I hadn't heard that. I'm curious about it too.<br><br>
Just a side note. I had mentioned JW up in another post and someone said they only wouldn't have a blood transfusion (something like that). I babysat for a JW family for awhile and when they went on vacation their middle son got bit by a rattlesnake. They refused the antivenom I guess because its made from blood products. The son was fine. I don't agree with their decision, but I do respect their right to make it.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">That is so so wrong. If my kid had cancer, I would do Hoxsey treatment before radiation and chemo (there used to be 17 clinics in the US until they got ran out by the government for curing cancer, now they are in Tijuana, Mexico but have a San Ysidro, CA mailing addy) It's not like they dont want treatment at all, they just dont want to put the girl through more! That poor family. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"></div>
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There is Dr. Bryzinsky in Houston, I believe who does alternative cancer therapy also.<br><br><br>
ITA with you about the Hoxsey treatment.
 
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