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We have chosen not to vaccinate and my DH's Aunt & Uncle also did not vaccinate their 5 kids and 2 contracted diphtheria - I'm wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience and if so what they did. I don't want to keep my kids away from other kids but I do want to keep them healthy, any suggestions? TIA!
 

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I dont worry about isolating the kids they go to public school and out to the store with me all the time. The last known case that I could find of diptheria in the USA was in 82. I had a great aunt die back in the 30's with it but back then they didnt have the abx to treat it.<br><br>
There is nothing that is common right now that isnt treatable so I dont give it another thought.
 

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I'm surprised to hear that...my understanding is diphtheria is not around.<br><br>
I wouldn't purposely expose them but I also wouldn't worry too much. I would live life as usual (ie if someone is sick, don't visit them or play until they are well).
 

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I stopped having DD vaccinated after her 2-month shots. She is almost 13 months.<br><br>
Diphtheria is one of the very last things I am worried about happening to her. I haven't done anything differently with her than I did with DS, who was fully vaccinated. We go to play places, parks, playgroups, amusement parks...she plays with her brother who is in pre-k at a daycare. Both kids are very healthy except for the occasional cold.<br><br>
We try to avoid obviously sick people, but that's just common sense. There is no vaccine for many communicable illnesses. We try to eat healthy, get as much sleep as the kids allow, and wash our hands often. And not worry about VPDs, as I'm sure DH and I have lost any immunity to the ones we were vaccinated for many years ago!
 
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The WHO says there have been no reported cases of diphtheria in the US since 2004.<br><br><a href="http://www.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/timeseries/tsincidencedip.htm" target="_blank">http://www.who.int/immunization_moni...cidencedip.htm</a>
 
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I'm sorry ladies my foggy brain meant to say pertussis NOT diphtheria. Pertussis is the one I worry about. Thanks for all the replies!
 
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<div style="font-style:italic;">I'm sorry ladies my foggy brain meant to say pertussis NOT diphtheria. Pertussis is the one I worry about. Thanks for all the replies!</div>
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OK then,<br><a href="http://www.who.int/immunization_monitoring/en/globalsummary/timeseries/tsincidenceper.htm" target="_blank">http://www.who.int/immunization_moni...cidenceper.htm</a><br><br>
13,213 cases in the US in 2008 (the last year for which they have data).<br><br>
Anecdotally, we had a pertussis outbreak when I was in college (it's highly contagious) and I got it. It was pretty awful. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"><br><br>
How old are your kids? The older they are, the less likely they are to suffer a serious or long-term complication if they do get it. Pertussis immunity (either by vax or by disease) only lasts a few years so if your kids are older they're probably about par with their peers anyway. Vax is meant to protect kids in the vulnerable early years when they're at higher risk for complications or death.
 
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nak<br><br>
it's only anecdotal, but i wasn't vaccinated and i never had pertussis (that i know of). i was at some point exposed to rubella, as shown by my awesome prenatal titers, but i never suffered from any awful disease.
 
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Moving to Health and Healing, as per the forum guidelines
 
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My boys are unvaxed. We've done nothing different than we would had we vaxed him. We too goto playgroup 2x a week, we goto mcdonalds' playplaces all the time (especially in the winter), parks, museums, zoos, etc.<br><br>
Most of the VPDs are simply not as bad as people make them out to be - I know lots of folks who are now scared to death of chickenpox, but really, we all had it as kids. And really, I *WANT* my kids to get cp, wouldn't mind them getting mumps or measels or rubella either.<br><br>
As for pertussis, the vax for that is *FAR* from 100%. When I was researching vax a couple years ago, what I read pointed to the fact that vaxed or unvaxed, we all get pertussis every few years. But, for most of us, healthy adults/older children (think more than a year or two), its simply no big deal. Its that horrible hacking cough that just. wouldn't. go. away. (actually, as I'm typing this, it occurs to me that we have that right now... interesting!). And, since most of us have been vaxed, and thus 'can't get pertussis' its rarely tested for/diagnosed (and cause' it costs money to actually test for it). Babies are really only at risk for the first few months of life, and after that its not a big deal for the vast, vast majority of children.<br><br>
Also, the pertussis vax is like, one of, if not the most reactive of all vaccines. Totally, 100% not worth the risk IMO. Its like, the last vax I'd ever give to my kids. The LAST. And just always remember, when it comes to vaccines: You can *ALWAYS* do them later. But you can *NEVER* take them back.
 

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We are not vaccinating.<br><br>
We are choosing homeopathy, chinese medicine and therapeutic grade essential oils as our medicines in case DD becomes sick.
 
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<div style="font-style:italic;">nak<br><br>
it's only anecdotal, but i wasn't vaccinated and i never had pertussis (that i know of). i was at some point exposed to rubella, as shown by my awesome prenatal titers, but i never suffered from any awful disease.</div>
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Yes I don't remember ever getting a rubella vaccination, but I also showed titers during my prenatal blood test! How is that possible?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Yes I don't remember ever getting a rubella vaccination, but I also showed titers during my prenatal blood test! How is that possible?</div>
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Many cases of rubella are asymptomatic. Rubella is only serious to pregnant women and their babies, it isn't really a very scary illness other than that but if one is a pregnant women or a fetus it is extremely scary and very serious.<br><br><br>
My sister and I were both vaccinated for it and close enough in ages that we likely received the same vaccine. I am immune to rubella and she, despite being vaccinated twice more after pregnancies is still not immune. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br><br><br><br>
I agreed to the pertussis vaccination. My nephew has a very serious and rare lung condition and so I do choose the vaccinations that involve the lungs. This is to avoid any possibility of my children infecting my nephew with an illness that could possibly kill him in addition to any possible genetic connections that medical science is not yet aware of.<br><br>
The vaccination issue isn't about NOT VACCINATING EVER!!!! It is about weighing your options, looking at your very particular and specific issues and making the best choice for your family. It is about information and the right to make those choices. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Yes, of course if vaccines worked perfectly then it would be impossible for my vaccinated nephew to get an illness from my children but I have taken statistics courses and I adore my nephew so I made that choice.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Yes I don't remember ever getting a rubella vaccination, but I also showed titers during my prenatal blood test! How is that possible?</div>
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You may have been vaccinated even though you don't remember...but it's more likely you actually had rubella. That's what my midwives told me, anyway!<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">We have chosen not to vaccinate and my DH's Aunt & Uncle also did not vaccinate their 5 kids and 2 contracted diphtheria - I'm wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience and if so what they did. I don't want to keep my kids away from other kids but I do want to keep them healthy, any suggestions? TIA!</div>
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I feel your concerns...I'm in a similar boat. If you've done your research and your soul-searching and have decided not to vaccinate, I don't think there's anything one can do about keeping your family healthy other than the usual---being clean, washing hands, keeping germs away from the face, eating healthy, exercising and getting plenty of sunshine and fresh air, and staying away from sickies--all within reason. And remembering that an immune system has to be tested once in awhile in order to work well enough to keep us healthy as we grow. You might have to keep your kids away from other kids if the other kids become really sick, or if you are part of a social group whose habits tend to breed serious and/or continuous illness. If not, I would try not to worry too much, and let your kids play and be happy.<br><br>
Personally most of the diseases don't scare me too much, not because they aren't that dangerous (they DO kill, no matter how small or even non-existent the number of deaths are in your part of the world), but because I'm confident, based on my and my partner's genetic pool, that our little one can withstand a disease like chicken pox without serious repercussions--no matter how unpleasant it may be for him. But Pertussis is one that scares the bejesety out of me. I'm still considering the vaccine for that one, but most certainly not before he's 6 months old. In the meanwhile---I just worry. And wash my hands, and keep things out of my face, and stay away from sickies. And worry. Did I mention that one already? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Oh--alternative medicine is a good arena to look into as well. Certain treatments work better than others, but I think that just depends on your own DNA. For instance, my body responds to acupuncture like magic, but stubbornly refuses to respond to chiropractic care at all. Maybe you can look into preventative care with the type of alternative medicine that works best for your family?<br>
ETA: and like abimommy pointed out, it's all about making the right choice for YOUR family. I'm nervous about pertussis because of a long family history of allergies, asthma, and a childhood filled with hospital stays because the slightest cold for me turned into pneumonia. So I'm considering vaccines for any disease that has to do with the lungs and that has a reasonable possibility of being transmitted to my son.
 
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