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Is there such a thing? I have searched and searched and have found topics relating only to body ticks.<br><br>
My one DD is 4, and when she speaks, she makes odd and bizzare sounds when she speaks. It is so hard to convey in text, but it kinda goes like this...<br><br>
' <i>deep inhale</i> Mom? <i>pop</i> "<br>
Yes<br>
"<i>deep inhale sounding like snoring</i> Can I have a <i>click</i> apple<i>pop</i> ?<br><br>
She is making these sounds and it is obvious. They are very loud and exaderated.<br><br><br>
I was speaking to a person on the phone who works with Sn kids, and she suggested ticks.<br><br>
Is this right?<br><br><br>
She has vax damage and has also is Aspergers.<br>
Her is is SID, and high functionong autism and does not do this.<br>
Dh is ADD and does not do this.<br>
Just a bit of back ground.
 

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That's what I am afraid of.<br>
Problem is, she has not done this all her talking life.<br><br>
She has an appt with our fam doc the 21 st. this i going to be yet another get no where fast scenerio with him.
 

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You can have tics without Tourette's. If that's the only tic, I wouldn't worry about Tourette's just yet. Here's two links on it: <a href="http://www.tourettes-disorder.com/" target="_blank">http://www.tourettes-disorder.com/</a><br><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Tourette%27s%20syndrome" target="_blank">http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...27s%20syndrome</a><br><br>
My daughter used to have really bad tics, ones that involved moving her whole body in a certain way. She grew out of it pretty much and now has only simple tics once in a while with her eyes. My son does it with his eyes too. That's not Tourette's, it's just simple tics. A lot of people get them, more than you'd think.
 

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Transient tics, either vocal or body, are not uncommon in children at all. One tic is not somehting ot be particularly worried about, however since she has other issues going on I woudl bring this up to the doctor.
 

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I had many transient tics as a child, and still do. And I do not have any other issues like an ASD. I would mention it to the doctor but it will probably go on it's own. My student with Autism develops certain motor and vocal tics from time to time and they usually leave after a short time. I sometimes try to prevent the opportunity for them to happen and this breaks the habit. Obviously a vocal tic is different but you might try saying that you couldn't understand her and see if she can practice repeating the sentence without the tics. I wouldn't do this with every sentence that has tics but in the ones with several where it is starting to become a barrier to understanding. This may bring her attention to them.
 

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Ok, I am starting ot feel better. I searched Transient ticks and it came up with better information than the ticks I searched earlier. (Read, all about bugs)<br><br>
Thank you all so much for your help.<br>
PikkuMMy~ Thank you for those suggestions...<br><br>
Come to think of it, I may have had a small form of ticks when I was about 18 or so....... I had this habbit of blinking so much, everyone always asked me if I had trouble with my eyes.
 

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Glad you are feeling better. Just in perspective, here are some of the tics I have had from time to time over the past 20 years or so. The ones with an *, I still do here and there.<br><br>
Shrugging my shoulders<br>
Squinching up my nose<br>
Blinking<br>
Tensing my neck muscles so that my face makes an awful grimace*<br>
Typing in the air, on my skin or clothing, or on someone else's skin or clothing!* (read, DH is NOT amused when I type out the dialogue just spoken while watching a movie)<br>
Making wierd noises like a voiceless 'pop" with my lips, clicking my tongue softly, that sort of thing*<br><br>
Just to clarify for others, most of the time, tics of this nature are not simply habits or movements one does when bored, like when my husband jiggles his leg while typing at the computer. The person with the tic feels compulsive about it - like when I am in a "neck grimacing" phase, I don't feel physically right unless I do it when I get the urge. But with practice and relaxation, it is possible to get out of the compulsiveness of it. Also, people who do them sometimes don't notice them as they become a "normal" part of life.
 

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here we are months later, and the tics are not going away. Now they are in th eform of her shrugging her shoulders. AHe also appreal like she is trying to wink, but with just the one side of her face. We were at the doctors and he saw them himself, and said, we will give it a few more months. If it continues, then we will have a closer look. ok, but here the waiting list to see a neuoro is a year. This doc tho, you have ot pull teeth to get him to do anything right away.<br><br>
I think I need to do another chelation therapy for her again.
 

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I was working down this thread, ready to say at the bottom that my BIL has Tourette's and he is a great guy. He had a tough time in childhood before he was properly dxed but he has learned to work with it and someone who doesn't know him doesn't really notice. It looks by now as though your dc are dxed too. How are your dc doing?
 

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My dd has different sounds that she does, and they change, sometimes go away for weeks and come back. She has a lot of energy and she had sensory issues. I think she's just trying to stimulate herself. She has a need to stimulate her ears especially. Oh yeah, and she screeches "eeek" a lot too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
She will do a "tchhh" sound a lot, or a click with her tongue. Sometimes when I read to her and she's having a hard time staying still she'll do a breathy sound where she blows air over her moving tongue. It's very annoying but the more I draw attention to it, the more likely she is to do it.<br><br>
I don't consider her to have TS because she doesn't do it in public or around friends. Does your dd do it around other people?
 

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addax~ it is such a wonderful thing to hear how your BIL is doing. I can;t help but feel a tight knott in my tummy wondering how thier life is going to be in later years.<br><br>
My dc are going through a really hard time right now. we are dealing with several issues at once here it seems. along wiht the TS my one dd is doing OCD behaviour but it seems to be surrounding a very traumatic even in her life recently. She witnessed our severe house fire 2 years ago. Also this summer htere was devistating floods to our home town and she too saw this and saw ppl loose thier houses form that as well. This seemed to really trigger this for her. All of a sudden ( the last few months) she has been obsessed with things such as stnading there or making sure I stand there to watch the tub fill the sink fill the washing machine run. I do not use the dishwasher anymore because it simply takes too long to watch...the same goes for cooking. I have to be standing directly in front of the stove to watch it or she gets panic stricken. instead of playing during these times she is watch dog. we never have any lamps on for she fears they will set fire ( we do not know where she got that inf ofrom) also there is NO way she will have the fireplace on ( not an issue anyways we do not 'need; it on like we do the stove). Everynight before we go to bed, she goes all over the house to make sure everyhitng is off. ANd then again whne we are all tucked in. She needs to go through a verbal check list again with me. And then the verbal check list a few more times and also she will wake up at night with the same ?'s. Not to mention her night mares. the poor thing gets on average of 1 hour sleep in a row. Same with mom.<br><br>
DDT is not as intense atm. she has been in the past but in very different ways.<br><br>
DDJ ( with the current OCD) is also VERY angry easily as she gets frusterated with herself and she is just so tired. things are out of control for her and she feels it and that gets her angry <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> ok here is where mom starts to cry.<br><br>
SOmewhere along the way my sweet dd's life went the other direction on her and she is very confused and frusterated by it and it shows in her daily life. Right now her tics are constant and it is impossible to not notice.<br><br>
BUT there have been times in thsi over a year journey with this that she only did it during certain times.<br><br>
If your dd has went to a neurologyst already for another dx then xhances are they would have picked up if it was TS for your dd then. I would not worry about it. There are many kids of reasons for tics to come about in children it is not always TS.<br><br>
ha. so..that is how they are right now, thank you fo rasking and sorry about the novel.<br><br>
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wow, thanks for the link above. i am more enlightened as to specifics, although my intitial instincts were apparently correct. undiagnosed or not (and according to the page, there is no test to diagnose), but the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders seems to be clear on ds#1 (and dh- i was pretty sure about that too- and his dad) having it. ds for years has been blinking rapidly, spitting, grimacing constantly, & lately has just started say 'huh. huh.' under his breath. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> that seems to sum it up.<br><br>
what do i do now? if i was not homeschooling, getting him labelled could have benefits- extra help in school, etc. but is there a qualitive benefit to therapy now? i'm not interested in meds if they are unnecessary- and my dh is functional, his dad is, i have no reason to think it will be profoundly disabling.<br><br>
i am kind of flummoxed. i was about to call vandy about the baby's speech delays already & am feeling a bit overwhelmed (with ds' 1s horrendous excema & my teeth, it seems like we're at the dr's endlessly already- and is it shallow to worry about the traffic? the downtown hospitals- the drivers here are about the worst i've ever seen. every wild oats/dermatolgist run is taking our lives in our hands with several near-misses. i'm going to feel like a stupe if i get us killed in traffic trying to treat the essentially untreatable, with minor benefits.<br><br>
is anyone with children (or themselves) in treatment for tourette's getting any tangible help? i really don't know what to do. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/help.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="help">
 
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