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OK, I know the OBVIOUS answer to this question, but thought I'd see what my "odds" might be first from more experienced POAS'ers! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
I had an IUI on April 12th, tested on 9DPIUI and again on 13DPIUI and both were negative. It is now 15 DPIUI, still no AF but I just feel like I just might be preggos...tender ( . )( . ) is about my only sign, but that is a pretty solid one don't you think??? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> Of course that could equally be associated with PMS. What are the odds the preggo test on Day 13 was wrong? I can't really stand another BFN from a stick, so I'm dreading buying yet more sticks. On the other hand we have an appt. first thing Monday AM with an RE and would love to be able to cancel it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
The clomid seems to mess with my cycle and last cycle was only 3 weeks long. This Monday will be 4 weeks. What's a girl to do? Should I just test again so I can stop obsessing or just wait for AF?
 

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That's tough. The thought of another white,white BFN might be enough to make me wait. Then again if you test again, you'll know for sure. Will it ruin your weekend if its a BFN? If so I'd really wait. Good luck, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
 

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that's a tough one.. someone posted this on FF for the % of dpo oand BFP...<br><br>
Positive BFP Percentages according to dpo:<br>
* 35% at 10dpo<br>
* 51% at 11dpo<br>
* 62% at 12dpo<br>
* 68% at 13dpo<br>
* 74% at 14dpo<br>
* 80% at 15dpo<br>
* 88% at 16dpo<br>
* 92% at 17dpo
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">that's a tough one.. someone posted this on FF for the % of dpo oand BFP...<br><br>
Positive BFP Percentages according to dpo:<br>
* 35% at 10dpo<br>
* 51% at 11dpo<br>
* 62% at 12dpo<br>
* 68% at 13dpo<br>
* 74% at 14dpo<br>
* 80% at 15dpo<br>
* 88% at 16dpo<br>
* 92% at 17dpo</div>
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That's me!! I had a friend email those figures to me and I have posted them so many times that I added them to my FF signature. Every time I feel tempted to test early, I look at the stats and ask myself I really think I'm special enough to be in the 20% who might get a bfp that early. Seems like waiting another day or two will dramatically improve the reliability of the test, so I guess I'd try really hard and wait until 17 dpo. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/fingersx.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="fingersx">:
 

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Thank you for posting those "odds"<br><br>
Still no AF and tomorrow (Sunday) will be 17 days past IUI and lookie lookie CVS has pregnancy tests on sale! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
When I got preggo with dd I had an IUI w/ an appt scheduled with an RE because they felt I would not conceive with the IUI, well not only did I...I did on the first cycle. So this time when I went in for the IUI I asked them to schedule an appt w/ the RE "just in case" and perhaps it'll be a good omen like when I conceived dd.<br><br>
But now I'm just working myself up, so I'll just sit tight and cross my fingers for a BFP tomorrow.
 

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hhhmmm...smokeylo, could I please have more info about where those statistics were obtained? They just don't jive for me.....14 dpo is going to be a missed period for most women, and according to those stats, only 74% of women are testing positive? I really don't buy that.......but I'm always willing to change my mind with credible evidence!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">That's me!! I had a friend email those figures to me and I have posted them so many times that I added them to my FF signature. Every time I feel tempted to test early, I look at the stats and ask myself I really think I'm special enough to be in the 20% who might get a bfp that early. Seems like waiting another day or two will dramatically improve the reliability of the test, so I guess I'd try really hard and wait until 17 dpo. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/fingersx.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="fingersx">:</div>
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YEAH!! Thanks for posting that.. it helps me alot.. not to be a PoAS addict now!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">that's a tough one.. someone posted this on FF for the % of dpo oand BFP...<br><br>
Positive BFP Percentages according to dpo:<br>
* 35% at 10dpo<br>
* 51% at 11dpo<br>
* 62% at 12dpo<br>
* 68% at 13dpo<br>
* 74% at 14dpo<br>
* 80% at 15dpo<br>
* 88% at 16dpo<br>
* 92% at 17dpo</div>
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Thank you so much for posting those. I have been thinking of testing but i am 12dpo. but i have had a upset stumich everytime i eat meat for the past 6 days, I think its to early and i realy dont want to see a bfn so i was thinking of waiting but a lady at work said i should test today because of how i am feeling but i think now that you posted the % i am going to wait a few days. TTC #1 months. Thanks again
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">hhhmmm...smokeylo, could I please have more info about where those statistics were obtained? They just don't jive for me.....14 dpo is going to be a missed period for most women, and according to those stats, only 74% of women are testing positive? I really don't buy that.......but I'm always willing to change my mind with credible evidence!</div>
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You know, they were passed on to me by a friend and I have no idea where she got them. She's a ttc expert and extremely credible *to me,* so I have little reason to doubt her, but I can understand why someone else might. I can ask her if I run into her soon where she got the #s.<br><br>
I think it has more to do with the detectability of pregnancy for a pregnancy test... even if you don't get your period, that doesn't mean that a test can detect hormone levels sufficiently to give you a bfp.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">You know, they were passed on to me by a friend and I have no idea where she got them. She's a ttc expert and extremely credible *to me,* so I have little reason to doubt her, but I can understand why someone else might. I can ask her if I run into her soon where she got the #s.<br><br>
I think it has more to do with the detectability of pregnancy for a pregnancy test... even if you don't get your period, that doesn't mean that a test can detect hormone levels sufficiently to give you a bfp.</div>
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I have not done a whole lot of research in this area, but I do have a clip here from the First response website....it claims that by the day before a missed period, 93% of women test positive with their test.<br>
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In clinical testing, FIRST RESPONSE® detected the hormone levels in 69% of women four days before their expected period, in 83% of women three days before their expected period, in 93% of women two days before their expected period, and in 93% of women one day before their expected period.<br>
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Here is what i am wondering....home pregnancy tests thet detect a VERY low level of HCG are only VERY recently available, with several detecting only 20-25 miu of hcg....as recently as 5 years ago, tests only detected 100miu or more.....they were a lot less sensitive....so you can see how any research/testing in this field would change rapidly...i am wondering if your friend maybe is using true stats...from a few years ago? That is one thought that popped into my mind...<br>
interesting......
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have not done a whole lot of research in this area, but I do have a clip here from the First response website....it claims that by the day before a missed period, 93% of women test positive with their test.<br>
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In clinical testing, FIRST RESPONSE® detected the hormone levels in 69% of women four days before their expected period, in 83% of women three days before their expected period, in 93% of women two days before their expected period, and in 93% of women one day before their expected period.<br>
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Here is what i am wondering....home pregnancy tests thet detect a VERY low level of HCG are only VERY recently available, with several detecting only 20-25 miu of hcg....as recently as 5 years ago, tests only detected 100miu or more.....they were a lot less sensitive....so you can see how any research/testing in this field would change rapidly...i am wondering if your friend maybe is using true stats...from a few years ago? That is one thought that popped into my mind...<br>
interesting......</div>
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but the HPT also say to test 4-5 days "earlier" before your missed period but that is based on a normal 28 day cycle O on day 14 so if you O later than that then you could still be pregnant and get a BFN.. POAS.com explains it better <a href="http://www.peeonastick.com/hptfaq.html#1" target="_blank">here</a> and it all depends on when the embryo implants and when the hormone is detectable.
 

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mamzon, that clip from POAS actually proves MY point...in it, she says that by 12-14 dpo, you can be reasonably sure, and by 16 dpo, you can be about certain....<br>
In fact, she claims, and this is a direct quote from the POAS site "Then allow 14 days for the embryo to implant and develop enough hCG to show up on a pregnancy test (96% of pregnant women will test positive by then.)"<br><br>
she herself is saying that 96% of women get a BFP by 14 dpo...which i wholeheartedly agree with!!!!<br><br>
The stats smokeylo gave us has only 74 percent of women getting a positive at 14 dpo, again, that seems WAY LOW to me....<br><br>
The fact is that implantation happens 6-10 days after fertilization, regardless of luteal phase........there can be exceptions, of course, but most implantation is gonna happen by about 10 dpo at the latest....give yourself 3-4 days to get enough hcg to show up on a test...and you are 9-14 dpo when you pop positive......REGARDLESS of how long your LP usually is, the vasy majority of women are gonna test positive by no later than 14 dpo....honestly, I believe that number to be probably 95% or so.........which of course means 5% aren't going to.....but according to smokeylo's stats....a whopping ***26%*** of women are NOT testing positive at 14 dpo....i REALLY just don't believe that's true. I just don't, at least not with today's super sensitive 20miu tests.<br>
And yes, i know that FRER is using a "textbook" cycle...but even so, at "one day before a missed period" which, according to a textbook cycle is going to be 13 dpo, 93% of women are testing positive....I believe that number!!<br><br>
I just really think those stats are way off. Again, I think maybe they might have been true a while back, when tests weren't sensing 20miu, but more like 100-200 miu..which would take several additional days to show up!!!<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">mamzon, that clip from POAS actually proves MY point...in it, she says that by 12-14 dpo, you can be reasonably sure, and by 16 dpo, you can be about certain....<br>
In fact, she claims, and this is a direct quote from the POAS site "Then allow 14 days for the embryo to implant and develop enough hCG to show up on a pregnancy test (96% of pregnant women will test positive by then.)"<br><br>
she herself is saying that 96% of women get a BFP by 14 dpo...which i wholeheartedly agree with!!!!<br><br>
The stats smokeylo gave us has only 74 percent of women getting a positive at 14 dpo, again, that seems WAY LOW to me....<br><br>
The fact is that implantation happens 6-10 days after fertilization, regardless of luteal phase........there can be exceptions, of course, but most implantation is gonna happen by about 10 dpo at the latest....give yourself 3-4 days to get enough hcg to show up on a test...and you are 9-14 dpo when you pop positive......REGARDLESS of how long your LP usually is, the vasy majority of women are gonna test positive by no later than 14 dpo....honestly, I believe that number to be probably 95% or so.........which of course means 5% aren't going to.....but according to smokeylo's stats....a whopping ***26%*** of women are NOT testing positive at 14 dpo....i REALLY just don't believe that's true. I just don't, at least not with today's super sensitive 20miu tests.<br>
And yes, i know that FRER is using a "textbook" cycle...but even so, at "one day before a missed period" which, according to a textbook cycle is going to be 13 dpo, 93% of women are testing positive....I believe that number!!<br><br>
I just really think those stats are way off. Again, I think maybe they might have been true a while back, when tests weren't sensing 20miu, but more like 100-200 miu..which would take several additional days to show up!!!<br><br>
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true true.. I myself did not test with my pregnancies until at least I was a week late. I was not charting ( never heard of it back then) and I wonder now if I was charting how early I would of gotten a +..
 

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AF showed today...CD 1 for me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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I am so sorry Keri. What did they say at your appt yesterday? Will you do another iui w/clomid or move on to injections?
 

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Edited first paragraph - I will now take a month "off" (May) and we'll be on to injectables for the month of June!<br><br>
The appointment went well, the only down fall is their office is almost an hour from me. Going to my regular OB I was able to jet down the road 5 minutes and be done. Now it's going to mean taking more time off, coordinating a sitter some days when DH needs to join me etc. But if in the end I get another little baby to nurture then all is worth it!
 
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