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Since you all were so helpful WRT my first post (about natural consequences), I thought I'd pick your brains again.<br><br>
DS1 (2) has begun this new thing where he refuses to nap. He definitely still needs a nap - he is cranky and not at all himself during the late afternoon and evening if he doesn't get one.<br><br>
I have tried reading stories to wind him down, laying with him, softly singing...none of that has worked.<br><br>
I think the problem is that he used to get rocked to sleep for his nap, until DS2 arrived. DS2 needs to be held constantly, therefore I can't rock DS1 to sleep when it's just the three of us here.<br><br>
Anyway...I'm getting really frustrated. I find myself feeling so irritated I could yell (which would *not* be productive), and contemplating using really poor discipline tactics like reverse bribery (If you don't nap, we're not going to the park type threats, that I don't even want to follow through with).<br><br>
He defininitely needs to rest mid-day, and I'm out of ideas and feeling really aggravated. Can you help?
 

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Can you have him lay on his bed while he listens to five songs on a CD? I have a friend for whom that worked wonderfully. You can call it music time or rest time or whatever you choose. Five songs is usually enough for most kids.<br><br>
Now, this did NOT work with mine. The only thing that I can do is put him in the car, run an errand and have him fall asleep on the way home.<br><br>
Does he sleep in the stroller? You could sling the baby and stroll the older to sleep.<br><br>
How does the baby do in the sling? I used to be able to put the baby in the sling while she was sleeping, lie down with her on my chest and lay next to DS and tell stories until he went to sleep. That stopped working when the baby became uncooperative.<br><br>
All in all, right after the baby was born, nap time here was horrible. That is how I ended up running some silly errand every day.
 

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I have the same problem at my house. My ds quit taking a nap shortly after turning 2. He still needs a nap, but refuses and will fall asleep at the dinner table at 5:00 if he doesn't have at least a short nap earlier.<br><br>
I have determined that the best way to deal with this is to just push him around town in the stroller. I plop him in and we hardly go a block before he is asleep. I walk over to the library (1/2 hour walk) then I read several newspapers and he'll wake up. He plays in the children's section and we walk back home. It gets me some exercise and him some play time when he wakes up.
 

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Well, my first thought is that this is a parenting issue, not a discipline issue (sematics, I know, but important to set in your head)<br><br>
Good advice on the music. You can't force sleep, but you can schedule quiet time. Listening to music is a great idea. Or it could be books (on tape even to make mom's life a little easier) or it could be calm play on the bed.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><br><br>
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I teach preschool and I have experience with naps...although I am sure it would be different with your own child as they know better how to "bug" you. One thing that seems to work well is to make sure it is pretty dark, quiet except for lullabies, and then lay next to them and either pat their backs or pretend to be asleep...some kids will sleep if you pat their backs some do better just laying next to them. You may have to lay there for 20 or 30 minutes which might make it hard with your other child. Also, I would make sure you follow that same routine every day. If one day he doesn't lay down and one day he does...he will figure that if he fusses he will get out of it.
 

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Thank you soooooooo much! I'm so glad I asked here. I was beginning to feel all befuddled, but everything you all suggested is doable, except maybe the laying down for long stretches of time w/ him...though I may be able to swing that if I lay and nurse DS2.<br><br>
DS2 loves the sling when we're up and moving around, and DS1 loves to go for walks in the stroller, so I'm going to try that. (Besides, I need the exercise!) We won't be able to in the winter, but the weather's still nice enough that we could try it now.<br><br>
And I don't know why I never thought of soft music. DS1 loves listening to music, so I think this may be the ticket for us.<br><br>
I feel much more confident with your fresh ideas. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> Thanks!
 

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we are in the same boat. we do quiet time - i put a cd on in her room, a gate across the door to keep her in, and then we all hang out - the baby and i on the floor by her bed, dd in the bed. she is 28 mo. she won't fall asleep, but will zone out for 30 min. sometiems i need to leave the room for a min, and she is fine with that.<br><br>
for us, the naps became a problem b/c she would be up until 9 or 10 at night, and sleep horribly if she napped for just an hr. now, she will sleep about 7;15 or so until 7 am. which is key for my sanity with a newborn in the house. good luck! on days that we will be out late and she needs a nap, the car is great <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I have to report that DS decided to reject his bedtime routine tonight as well, so I popped in a CD after DH spent about 45 minutes trying (to no avail) to get him to settle enough for them to even lay together. It mellowed him out *instantly*! It took more than 5 songs b/c DS2 woke up crying and DH and I had to switch kiddos so I could nurse, but the music calmed him so efficiently, and he did fall asleep w/in a half hour of DH taking over soothing him again. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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My dd is 2, and she's giving up naps now. The problem we seem to be having is that she doesn't get tired enough to nap until 3pm, but if I lay her down then she is up very late. That's ok some days, not so great on others. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> Up until a couple of weeks ago her naptime was noon-2, and that usually worked with an 8pm bedtime.<br><br>
When she skips her nap she goes to bed by 7pm and sleeps about 13hrs, but from 5pm until bedtime is so hard. It wears all of us out, she's so overtired.<br><br>
So, I've read this thread with great interest. Thanks for the ideas! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love">
 

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i found that as my ds 2 became less needy of naps that having a quiet time after lunch was enough to revive him for the rest of the day in the same way that a nap did.<br><br>
we go upstiars and cuddle up and read stories and sometimes watch a film and just cuddle for a while and he seems to really relax and get some new energy and afterwards he copes with the rest of the day fine.<br><br>
would this help with you little one?
 
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