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Ahhhhhhhhh, help me mamas!!!<br>
Just to refresh your memories, DS2 has autism and (mom diagnosed) SPD, he is especially sensitive to sound, particularly toilets flushing.<br>
So we go to McDonalds today <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">: ( yes I know, bad mom) and Ds decides he wants to try going potty. I told Ds that he didn't have to and reminded him that McD's has toilets that are really loud when they flush. He is convinced that the boys bathroom is OK but the girls bathroom is not, which means that DS 1 will have to take him in there and help him. He says he is ok with this. He says he's ready, needs to pee, he wants to do it, etc.... I get his ear muffs and accompany him to the bathroom, after 10 minutes of him freaking out because he wants to pee but he's scared but he doesn't want to leave the bathroom because he wants to pee I finally convince him to go back to the play gym and play a bit. He does and calms down. He decides he wants to try peeing again. This time I was lucky enough that a McD's employee who was very kind and understanding stood outside the men's room to make sure no guy comes in and I take him in. Five more minutes of agonizing and I have to drag him screaming out of the bathroom.<br>
Ultimately we had to leave because his whole focus was on how he wants so badly to pee in the boys room but he can't and it ruins his whole day. I have no idea how to deal with this. I am also concerned because I am having loads of pressure by my family to attend a family reunion in Texas in about a month. We would either have to fly there and back, or ride in a motor home there and fly back, or ride in a motorhome there and rent a car and drive back. Obviously all of this is going to incorporate multiple strange toilets. Not to mention that he is dieing to go see Mickey Mouse next year and that means more strange toilets.With the state he was in today there is no way in hell we would be able to travel for days at a time. If he can't handle a trip to McD's down the road, there is no way he can cope with traveling to a different state and being gone for a week or more at a time. Pullups are no good because he won't pee in them on purpose, only when he's sleeping. So what do I do? I have not pressured him in the slightest to go pee in public, I always make sure he has gone before we leave to go out in public so it is a non-issue, but he continuously pressures himself about it. Any ideas?<br><br>
Namaste,<br><br>
Michelle
 

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Is it strange toilets or loud, industrial stength toilets? Could you make a point of using, or at least visiting, public toilets when ever you are out? Some smaller shops have regular home-style toilets, that aren't so loud, and might be a half-way point? Could you do some recon trips in advance around your town, to find some of the easier johns? Can you think of any other small steps that wouldn't be so much all at once. That is what occassionally has helped my boy.<br><br>
My heart goes out to your DS - I have so often watched YoungSon when he knows what he wants to do, but just can't bring himself to do it for whatever reason.
 

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My sister and I used to be scared of those loud toilets too. My mom would have us go potty, then we would wash our hands and stand by the door while my mom flushed it and then we would all run out. Do you think something like that would help your little guy so he does not have to be close to the source of the loud noise?
 

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We have this issue too. Last Christmas we traveled to see my family. I told DS in advance that he was going to have to pee on the trip. I told him there were pottys at the airport and on the airplane. I drew a book with him going to the airport and through security and using the potty at the airport. I packed lots of changes of clothes in carry on (his and mine) and I packed pull-ups as an emergency back up. We arrived at the airport at 6:30 am Christmas morning to find our flight cancelled. We spent the next 5 hours in the airport. Astoundingly DS managed to pee in the potty at the airport twice (taught him to cover his ears while in the restroom) and had no accidents!<br><br>
The bathroom at my parents' place was fine. He decided the one next to our bedroom was the only one he'd use, but whatever.<br><br>
Of course, he still refuses to use public restrooms. So I'm going to have to try having him go into them at every opportunity in the hopes that he'll decide they are okay after all.<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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Could you take your own portable potty with you? You can have him pee in it at home to get used to it and then use it out and about. Just dump his pee and either not flush <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">: or have him go out with DS 1 while you take care of it. Just a thought.
 

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Thanks mamas for your input. As far as what kind of toilet frightens him, I think it is the combo of afraid of it being loud and it being a strange toilet. We had to go to the dentist today, which he has been there loads of times, and he wanted to go pee. This toilet is more like a home style toilet than the loud industrial ones, but he was still really apprehensive. Eventually he was able to go, but not without any anxiety. The weird part is that he has an industrial type toilet at school that he pees in every day with no problems at all.<br>
I do give him the option of not flushing, or having me flush for him after he left. That doesn't seem to help any because so many industrial toilets flush by themselves these days. He is totally paranoid about the ones that are automatic, that's what started this whole thing off. The portable potty might work if we travel in the RV because there would be someplace for him to pee in privacy, but it won't help in regards to the plane or the airport. Some days I have a hard time just trying to get him through the bathroom door and I know there is no way he going to go for standing in an airplane bathroom right now, even if he doesn't pee in the toilet. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> Thanks for your help ladies!!!<br><br>
Namaste,<br><br>
Michelle
 
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