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Hi I dont know if this is the right place to ask this question though. I apologize if it is not.<br><br>
My situation:<br>
I will need to travel to Indonesia with my 17 months old daughter this early February. I totalled it takes 25 hours in-flight hour from FL to Indonesia.<br><br>
It is crazily longgggg. Here is the trip divided to:<br>
Domestic flight with 2 stops over each trip was about 2 hours. (transit time was about 1 hour).<br>
International flight with 2 stops:<br>
the first one takes 13 hours then transit for 4.5 hours<br>
and the second one takes 8 hours in flight.<br><br>
I travel by myself only (not with my husband). And fyi, there is 12 hours time differences between Eastern ST and Indonesia.<br><br>
I dont know how I am going to do it but I finally settled by trying to stay over one night during the transit on the international flight before resuming the trip again.<br><br>
I have my concerns though still:<br>
- I dont know if it is a wise decision to stayover first before continuing the journey than just continuing with it. Will it worth to the hasle with it?<br>
- Should I bring the carseat or not? I dont know if my daughter will be able to comfortably sleep for 13 hours in the carseat. and the space is kind of limited.<br>
- What should I bring on the trip or any gear that is useful for traveling alone? How do I take care milk since she drinks regular whole milk (not powdered)? and her food too?<br>
- How to handle the jetlag (time differences adjustment)?<br><br>
Any tips are realllyyyyy realllyyyyy appreciate it.<br><br>
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The longest we've done is about 12 hours door to door though we've taken maybe 10 different trips.<br><br>
We travel with our car seat and purchase a seat for Lucas, our almost 17 month old. So I know that not everyone wants to spend the money on an 'extra' seat but really, it's SO much easier for the parents and the babe to have their own seats. Your child can be in arms as needed and as you're alone and at this age don't count on your babe sitting and staying. My son is very active and after he was about 6 or 7 months old it just wouldn't work more than maybe 90 minutes flying time. With so many connections you just can't count on having a free seat available.<br><br>
Lucas sleeps in his car seat and he's quite comfortable (Britax Marathon). We use the <a href="http://www.gogobabyz.com/products/gogo_kids.html" target="_blank">Go Go Babyz Travelmate</a> for wheeling the seat (and sometimes Lucas) around the airport. It makes it a little harder to put in the airplane seat but it's worth being able to wheel it around. Especially traveling alone. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
I'd carry a soft side cooler (not huge) for your daughter's food/milk. You can put ice packs in there. You may be able to get milk on the flight and perhaps in the airport but if it's a concern, you should be able to bring it and get it through TSA as there are special rules for kiddos. Maybe try freezing it at home and see if she takes it after it's been frozen and thawed. That will help it keep longer. I took a tiny one for a flight to the Dutch Antilles and it worked pretty well. Take lots of snacks - for both of you.
 

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Thanks for the tips =) I will try to look around for a gear to help me stroll it with the carseat =)<br><br>
I hope my daughter will have a pleasant trip =) if not it will be a nightmare for me taking care of her in the flight by myself.<br><br>
Any more tips are mosttt welcomed =)
 

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Over Christmas I did a trip from Auckland NZ to my hometown in central California - flight time 13 hours, but in total about 24 hours once journeys to/from the airport are taken into consideration. DD was 15 months at the time.<br><br>
I definitely second the own seat for baby - on the way over we didn't have one, and the way back we did, and the way back was FAR, far easier. Furthermore the food they had for her on the way over, as she was an "infant" was rather inappropriate (bottled pureed food... whereas normally she just eats what I eat) Plus she was able to sleep in her carseat when we had her own seat.... and she slept for a good deal longer (and probably more comfortably) than she did when wriggling all over me.<br><br>
The other thing that was a lifesaver for us was a way to wear her.... in my case we have an Ergo, but any sling / wrap / soft-structured carrier would be great.<br><br>
Also, try to make sure you have lots of little snacks that your DC likes... I brought some plain crackers (for when she was actually hungry) and some marshmallows (her 'treat' food). Both came in useful a number of times, and the marshmallows in particular were a great soother when our plane was 2 hours delayed.
 

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Our tips!<br><br>
-car seats bring a sense of familiarity to the plane, at least in our experience. Having them really helps the kids settle.<br><br>
-we always buy a new coloring book and new box of crayons and colored pencils. Then we get a load of stickers. We bring these out slowly<br><br>
-as with previous, bring all toys/activities out slowly (not as much of a deal with a young toddler but more so when they are older)<br><br>
-little cooler with snacks and drinks<br><br>
-sometimes we bring a little bag of 'fun straws' the twisty, crazy straws-- just something new and exciting to keep their attention for a while<br><br>
-we aren't a no TV fam, so we have a portable DVD player which eats up a few hours here and there until the battery dies<br><br>
-fav books- 1 or 2 so they don't weigh down the bag<br><br>
-clapping games, hand games (like busy bee hive where your fingers are the bees kinda thing)<br><br>
-travel size magnadoodle kinda thing-- I dunno, but these things entertain my kids for hours on planes. We hide them otherwise while at home, so they are new and exciting on the plane ride<br><br><br>
I would just go straight through and get it over with without the stay over night. But I know my kids don't do so hot in hotel rooms until like the 3rd/4th night we are there...so the stop over would just make us more tired and cause higher tension
 

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You will be SO glad for that transit stop! It's a GOOD thing! I did a similar trip last year (Minneapolis to Bangladesh with three stops and then a long bus ride) with our daughter and it was rough. On the way back it was easier because we had a layover in Bahrain and got to nap in a real bed and have a couple nice meals. Made a huge difference!<br><br>
There were some times that nothing helped but having a stock of nice little cheapie toys she hadn't seen before really helped.
 

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we did about 12 hours (from here in australia to LA) when ds was about 17 months. Some tips:<br><br>
- i second the ergo! ds lived in it back then<br><br>
- we let go of time zones and just slept when ds slept... worked it out to get back into a rythym when we got there<br><br>
- lots and lots of containers and "bits" for bub to sort and move from container to container<br><br>
- fiddly things to play with eg. magnets, a couple of lego pieces or even a big padlock and chain with a key... things that keep them on fine motor skills (ie not action packed but absorbing)<br><br>
- get to the airport early with bub and ask for a seat with an empty one next to you... also if you dont get it mention to the person next to you that there might be spare seats they could move to (they dont take much encouragement normally)<br><br>
- be ok about walking up & down the aisles with them, we did this for atleast an hour over all<br><br>
- also agree with lots of small stickers, he loves sticking them everywhere (we too try to pace these out)<br><br>
- sleep lots before you go<br><br>
bon voyage!<br>
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Hi there!<br><br>
We just took a trip to Germany with our 13 month old. He actually did very well. The movement and background noise kept him asleep for most of the time and when he was awake he was fascinated by the new environment. Here's my two cents worth:<br><br>
Get lots of sleep for yourself before the flight, BUT try to keep the little one awake when possible - you want her to sleep on the plane instead.<br><br>
Let her run around during layovers as much as possible. We followed Raphael up and down the airport in Chicago until he was exhausted - it worked great:) Again - try to keep her awake during this time.<br><br>
Bring time consuming snacks - small things like raisins or crackers that you can give to her one at a time and in fun ways (hiding them in your hand for example). Let her try out the food and snacks they give you on the plane for a new experience.<br><br>
We brought a bunch of his favorite toys and books - whatever could keep his interest for a long period of time and stuff we could entertain him with such as his favorite frog.<br><br>
A happy obnoxious baby is WAY better than a crying one - let her interact with friendly passengers and flight attendants if possible.<br><br>
We spent lots of time walking up and down the aisles - just get ready to catch her if there's turbulence.<br><br>
The buttons for the lights and air conditioning can be entertaining for a while.<br><br>
That's about it, I think. Good Luck and have faith!<br><br>
BTW - limit carry-ons as much as possible. The layovers can be exhausting if you have to tote everything around with you AND watch a munchkin.
 

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and don't forget to drink lots of water yourself and eat as you will need your milk supply to be good for the lift offs and landings! (feel free to pack stuff you would eat and just put in the baby stuff...<br><br>
and I would have to say that at the worst maybe get a little dvd player. I'm so anti-tube normally but the thought of taking my 17 m by myself for that long I would even breakdown and buy barney!
 

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or buy a couple of beers! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> I have no advice but good luck on your trip. You're brave to fly that long!
 

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I definitely agree with all the PP...get a separate seat for your DD in the car seat and bring along an ergo or other carrier, lots of snacks, new toys & books, etc.<br><br>
I'm on the fence about breaking your trip up with a stayover. I can see how getting away from the airport for a night would be nice and possibly relaxing during such a long trek. However, I don't think my DD or I would sleep very well anyway. Knowing myself, I would probably be thinking about the next day. So, I guess I would rather just continue traveling through the night without a stayover and get the dang thang over with.<br><br>
I did want to add some advice a wise MDC mama gave me when I was stressing about flying alone with DD last summer. She told me instead of looking at the trip as a nightmare, look at it as an adventure. As always, it's all about perspective. And I can only add...breathe deep, drink lots of water, and stay chill. Good luck!
 

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Ugh, definately not fun to do this! However, the more prepared you are, the better it will be. I do this every two years with my children, one year alone (which totally sucked as they never sleep at the same time). I definately would not take the layover, I would want to get there and get acclimated to my new environment as soon as possible. . .and used to the time change. Here are some things that have helped us:<br><br>
-definately bring the carseat; those flights are long and you never know if there will be turbulance. . .also, my kids are very active and the carseat helps them to stay seated when they need to. Only prob with the carseat is you can't put down their tray which really sucks. . .maybe someone knows a carseat that you can put down the tray with?<br><br>
-bring lots of snacks; but nothing with too much sugar that will cause that activity rush (unless it is an hour before landing and you want to keep your DC awake). Raisins, chips, trail mix, cereal are all pretty good<br><br>
-travel light, mail anything you can if you know where you are going to be staying or just buy it when you get there. You will have to go through customs, get all your bags, then re-check them. It is not fun to do this with a child, a carseat, and whatever else you are taking<br><br>
-new small cheap toys that your dc has never seen. we also leave them in their packaging. . .takes time to open them. magnadoodles/aquadoodles are great. scissors, tape, paper, crayons--all very good<br><br>
-bring an extra top for you. . .you never know what is going to get spilled<br><br>
-I hate hand sanitizer, but I do use it in airports and on airplanes. . .you might think about bringing some<br><br>
-like others have said, let your dc walk as much as possible (just no running, my DD got in trouble for this). I take my children on a lap everytime one of us has to potty, or just whenever they need it<br><br>
-take your own headphones, they make ones for children. these were a novelty and very interesting all along the trip. . .I also loaded some children's music onto my player<br><br>
Good luck, get lots of rest, and drink lots of water on the plane. It really isn't that bad with just one child. . .they get so excited and have so much fun. Run lots at the airports during layovers! Have a good trip!
 

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i just spent two months in indonesia! i will post tips when i am more awake tomorrow! it's a lovely place. i flew with my dd who was 19months from NY to Australia and then was 20 months from Aus to Indonesia. Then, she was 22 months from Indo to Singapore and Singapore to Seattle, USA.<br><br>
NY to Australia was great and so were the other flights until Singapore to Seattle. But, that was more of the airlines than anything else. DD was a trooper.<br><br>
more tomorrow...
 

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We did middle US to Budapest and returned from Prague this Fall with a 2 year old. Luckily, I wasn't alone, but I second all of the tips about buying a few new toys and coloring books (never seen before). We have also taken a magnadoodle and a viewmaster slide thingy. On every trip, regardless of length, I also take along Hyland's Calms Forte for Babies to help with adjustments after arrival and some lavender and roman chamomile essential oils for baths. You probably could also take the essential oils on the plane to help calm down any episodes of too much energy. We also found the airline attendants to be extremely helpful with extra snacks and letting us wander freely on the plane. Good luck!
 

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My experience is only with shorter domestic flights, but hope it helps...<br><br>
We're baby wearers, too, but even if you don't normally use one, a regular-sized stroller is a great thing to have. You can check it at the gate as you board and then it's there to lug around all the carry-ons/toys/books during layovers.<br><br>
Also, we found a drop or two of the Bach floral 'Rescue Remedy' worked wonders to help dd stay calm and even sleep better in flight.<br><br>
Have a fantastic trip!
 

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We did not get DD a seat on any of the flights. We did ask for a bassinet and got it on all but the last flight. The bassinet hooks to the wall so you get bulk head seats with it! More leg room for you! We had to ask at booking and at the check in counter. There was usually a free seat on the plane next to us and once a person just moved over to give us the seat right next to us. People were really nice about having a toddler.<br><br>
We brought snacks on the plane with us, water and she was still nursing then. We also gave a few drops of Rescue Remedy if it was especially hard for her. The nursing helped a ton though with take off and landing. She liked looking out the windows when she was awake but honestly, she slept a ton! There were in flight movies and she had her own headphones turned down real low. We read books, walked around some, went to the bathroom and played in the mirror, ate snacks, and talked with other toddlers and their families on the plane.<br><br>
It can go smoothly. Even with two very long layovers and a total of 36 hours traveling, dd was really content. Dh and I were wayyyy more grumpy than she was. The worst was the flight home b/c the plane was super small and the flight attendants were not kind at all. Singapore Air is wonderful if you can book with them.
 

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HUGS to you all momma! Thanks for the tips. It seems I need to buy stickers since i dont have any on hands. And I do still have some other concerns that worries me. I know I might be very very nervous since I cannot predict or imagine what is going to happen on the day of travel.<br><br>
I dont know if my hand carry back will able to shove all things I needed I hope to bring my ergo carrier, water, snacks, and thanks for all the toys idea *I totally ran out of ideas for this part*<br><br>
And where can I find this Rescue Remedies? Is it available in local grocery stores since I dont seem ever see it.<br><br>
Even though I am still nursing her, I usually get very thirsty easily and I felt bad for asking a LOT of water to the waitress (I can even drink a gallon water in a day). And they usually only gives me a tiny glass of water. But what can I do we cannot bring water by ourselves cant I?<br><br>
I wondered if getting the front seat will mean we cannot open our armrest to connect the chair together? since the table/entertainment center should be stored on the armrest right?<br><br>
Diaper change, i hope it will be a breeze in changing diaper in a very small lavatories. or any tips?<br><br>
Ear pressure: what happens if the child is already sleeping by the time she is in the plane? should i still make sure she sucks something to relieve the ear pressure? or is there any gadget i can use for relieving the pressure?<br><br>
i think i might need to drink some relaxing tea to make sure i will be able to sleep well without overthinking things like a couple days before the travel ...<br><br>
oh oh i also bought the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=motheringhud-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FTraveling-Toddler-Attach-Rolling-Carry%2Fdp%2FB000JHN3AS%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_sr_1%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbaby-products%26qid%3D1200445151%26sr%3D8-1" target="_blank">Traveling Toddler</a> for rolling the carseat and made it function as a stroller too.<br><br>
And this is still debating whether I would need to bring this <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=motheringhud-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2Fimages%2FB000KJBFC8%2Fsr%3D1-1%2Fqid%3D1200445300%2Fref%3Ddp_image_0%3Fie%3DUTF8%26n%3D165796011%26s%3Dbaby-products%26qid%3D1200445300%26sr%3D1-1" target="_blank">Snack and Play Travel Tray</a> i thought it might be useful. what do you think?<br><br>
but again there are sooooo many things to bring but I only able to bring so much with a very small hand carry bag. =(<br><br>
o another questions separate from this: my daughter likes the regular whole milk rather than baby powdered milk. She was exclusively nursing just until recently she is taken interest in whole milk especially in a car or when playing (still fully nurse for napping and night sleeping). Any of you know which baby powdered milk (since this is easier to carry than the whole milk) that has the closest taste to regular whole milk?<br><br>
Sorry for such a long reply with sooo many questions ... bet you can tell i am nervous and i was not able to sleep at all last night ,,,<br><br>
TIA =D
 

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And where can I find this Rescue Remedies?<br><span>any health food store should carry it</span><br><br>
But what can I do we cannot bring water by ourselves cant I?<br><span>You can buy water after you go through security. It is expensive, but nice to have on the plane. You can also buy milk (granted it's not organic), but it is available once you pass security</span><br><br>
I wondered if getting the front seat will mean we cannot open our armrest to connect the chair together? since the table/entertainment center should be stored on the armrest right?<br><span>Babies and small children are not allowed to sit in an emergency aisle, the front seat is usually an emergency aisle. If you put your child in a carseat you won't be able to putting up the armrest won't really do anything to help</span><br><br>
Diaper change, i hope it will be a breeze in changing diaper in a very small lavatories. or any tips?<br><span>it's not too bad, just really cramped</span><br><br>
Ear pressure: what happens if the child is already sleeping by the time she is in the plane? should i still make sure she sucks something to relieve the ear pressure? or is there any gadget i can use for relieving the pressure?<br><span>I don't know about any gadgets for relieving the pressure. Once one of my DC fell asleep on the plane before taking off and other than moving around more and letting out a small squeel, nothing else happened. If you child is asleep during take-off, I wouldn't wake them; if it is during landing I would just so they are awake at the airport to run, play, eat a snack, etc. . .</span><br><br>
And this is still debating whether I would need to bring this <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=motheringhud-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2Fimages%2FB000KJBFC8%2Fsr%3D1-1%2Fqid%3D1200445300%2Fref%3Ddp_image_0%3Fie%3DUTF8%26n%3D165796011%26s%3Dbaby-products%26qid%3D1200445300%26sr%3D1-1" target="_blank">Snack and Play Travel Tray</a> i thought it might be useful. what do you think?<br><span>that's pretty cool, if it will fit your carseat I would go ahead and get it; that was one of the hardest things about flying with a carseat. . .not being able to use the tray, that looks like it might solve that problem. Is it airline approved though? You might want to ask ahead.</span><br><br>
but again there are sooooo many things to bring but I only able to bring so much with a very small hand carry bag. =(<br><span>We all carried back packs and I would definately do that again. If it didn't fit in our backpack, we decided not to bring it (even my purse went into the backpack)</span><br><br>
o another questions separate from this: my daughter likes the regular whole milk rather than baby powdered milk. She was exclusively nursing just until recently she is taken interest in whole milk especially in a car or when playing (still fully nurse for napping and night sleeping). Any of you know which baby powdered milk (since this is easier to carry than the whole milk) that has the closest taste to regular whole milk?<br><span>I don't know anything about powdered milk except that it doesn't taste anything like other milk. Like I said above, you can buy milk at most airports, and they do have it on the plane as well. Not sure what selection you will have, but sometimes when we travel we have to make do with what we can get.</span>
 

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I've done way too many flights like this. I would advise not to stopover for the night. The one time I did that it was pure hell the next day (5+7 hour flights).<br><br>
Both my pretty difficult kids have been easy flyers at that age. So there's some hope for you.
 

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I don't think it is worth the hassle you'll rest better when you get to your destination.<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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YES!YES!YES! bring your car seat I actually have a <a href="http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5716972" target="_blank">Cosco Scenera</a> just for traveling it is lightweight and very slim..... you will need a break even if shes only in it or 5 hours on one flight and 3 on another you will be glad for the break<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Keep everything minimal 1 medium size bag, a backpack, the car seat and for me a ring sling is ESSENTIAL!!! hands free carrying of baby or use it as a leash or to hold her in a seat if a high chair is unavailable... a few of her small toys and a board book anything you wouldn't care if you lost it.... and bring an mp3 player and magazine for yourself<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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A small soft insulated lunch bag with an ice pack remember that food and at least 2% milk will be available at airports maybe bring some Pediasure and ask flight attendants to keep cool some down(since they can be transported at room temperature) Bring about 4 snacks ie. 2 apples, a bag of O's, a bag of grapes and if she's not allergic a PB&J<br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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Sleep as much as you can en route your dd will probably sleep fairly well on the plane and expect to need a day to reset when you get to Indonesia<br><br>
I flew across the Pacific 5 times last year with dd and have done my fair share of traveling with her in these last 16mo and nothing has ever gone horribly wrong but you will be tired and so will your dd. Optimism is key.
 
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