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hi mamas.... sorry if this has been asked and answered a zillion times before, I'm suffering from new mama exhaustion....<br><br>
I had plenty of milk for DD, but my new little munchkin (he's 4 weeks now) needs more. He had plenty of feedings where he was not at all satisfied after 20 minutes of sucking (and he got EVERYTHING in there...). I tried all the usual ways of increasing supply (let him nurse a ton, switched sides a lot, etc - and I know he has good latch and is getting all the milk I have).<br><br>
I tried fenugreek - fixed the supply issue, but made DS gassy so much it really disturbed his sleep, and gave him diarrhea. Tried a smaller dose, didn't increase my supply but still affected DS. Tried blessed thistle - increased my supply (not as well as fenugreek), but wakes DS up, gives him gas and seems to make him constipated (he spends half the day grunting and pushing).<br><br>
At this point, hungry seems better than either of the other choices - I am going crazy with him waking up from sleep every 20 minutes with gas. Other suggestions?
 

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I know a lot of moms have good luck eating a bowl of oatmeal every day. You could give it a try if you like it... Here's the link to increasing supply at kellymom: <a href="http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/low-supply.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/low-supply.html</a><br><br>
Since he's so little, I'm wondering if it's a supply issue or if he maybe has some kind of sensitivity issues. Have you tried a diary of the foods you are eating? Is he gaining well, wetting and pooping normally? Just trying to cover all the bases...<br><br>
Hopefully some other moms will chime in here.
 

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Thanks Cindy, I'll try the oatmeal, hadn't heard that one. Considering beer too, but I hate beer <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"> .<br><br>
I'm pretty sure it's not sensitivities (I dealt with that with DD), the gas clears up as soon as I stop the fenugreek/blessed thistle (then he's just hungry, LOL). He's gaining well enough not to worry anyone (but on the low end of normal), and wetting and pooping are all OK - but he's sending lots of hungry cues, especially in the afternoon/evening when my supply is the lowest. Kind of like a neverending growth spurt, iykwim. And his 2-3 wk real growth spurt nearly killed me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> . I think he's getting enough milk to grow and be healthy, but not quite enough to be content. If that makes any sense!
 

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Is it possible that it might be cluster feeding?<br><br><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/fussy-evening.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/fussy-evening.html</a>
 

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Also...just a thought. I had tried all the typical solutions too and they didn't seem to help too much until I saw a nutrionist and he mentioned that I wasn't eating enough protein (I'm vegetarian). I started to eat more beans (especially adzuki...25% protein) and that has helped tremendously.
 

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I am wondering about the cluster feeding or maybe he just likes to suck??? Both ds1 and ds2 would be at the boobs for 45 minutes each during a regular nursing session and at the boob for at least 3 hours during cluster feeding(and incidentaly, they suck their thumb/fingers now). How do you know he isn't satisfied? I would think if there wasn't enough milk, he would get frustrated with your boobs...start to pull on the nipple, fist at the boobs, cry, etc.<br><br>
If you are convinced it is a low supply issue, then I would try the oatmeal and make sure you are getting enough to drink throughout the day. I know some mom's have used Mother's Milk tea, but I am not sure what is in it.
 

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I wanted to up my supply and this is what I did:<br><br>
I eat a bowl of oatmeal every morning<br><br>
I pump after morning feeds, even if I just got half an ounce from each breast<br><br>
If she only eats from one breast, I pump the other one<br><br>
I drink TONS of water<br><br>
I feed her on demand, and switch sides even if I have to wake her up to take the other side<br><br>
My milk supply is totally up, from one of these things or the combination. I usually pump 3 oz in ten minutes out of a breast that she hasn't fed from, and that's using a manual pump which is less effective than an electric. And I could probably keep going, but don't bother. I get random let down throughout the day and pump that too.
 

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If he's gaining weight and having plenty of wet and poopy diapers, it's probably not a supply issue. Some babies just like to nurse a lot <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Just stopping in to say thank you for all the help - the oatmeal seems to have done the trick, bless you Cindy!!
 

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Could have been a gowth spurt too. They usually happen around the 3 week mark and again 6 weeks.
 
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