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DH and I do not have a TV, but when we moved in with the 'rents we have had access to their set, hundreds of channels plus the wonders of the Tivo. We still haven't spent much time in front of it though, it's just not our style. But as I've been wretchedly sick the past few days I finished my book (Henci Goer's the thinking woman's guide to a better birth) and finally caved and watched the boob tube almost all day today. Mostly I watched TLC, which is really a horrible channel. I was horrified and fascinated by the baby programs today. Of the hours and hours I watched, all the women had epidurals, one had a schedules c/s, one had an unscheduled c/s, two had forceps deliveries, the others I dunno, it wasn't mentioned. All but ONE formula fed from birth. Of the births I saw none of the mothers immediately held their baby. One birth the whole family thanked the doctor profusely before they went to hug the mother.<br><br>
And the worst (imho): the one mother who was breastfeeding and cosleeping was told at the baby's first visit to the pediatrician (4 days after delivery, 1 day after they left the hosp) that her milk wasn't coming in fast enough and she needed to supplement with 2 oz of formula at least once a day!!<br><br>
Maybe I just caught a bad stream of these shows, I don't know. I haven't watched tv in so long that I am out of the loop. Are they all like this???
 

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Yes they're all like that. It's so depressing. I keep telling myself not to watch but then I do and I get all pissed all over again. Unfortunately I think it's a fairly accurate mirror of the state of birth in this country, and how it happens for most women. Of course they over-dramatize and emphasize the danger, pain, etc., but still...ugh.<br><br>
House of Babies is a good one though! I can't remember if it's on TLC or Discovery Health. It's a birth center in Miami and all the births are natural, most of them water. So maybe try to tape one of those and watch it to make yourself feel better. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">House of Babies is a good one though! I can't remember if it's on TLC or Discovery Health. It's a birth center in Miami and all the births are natural, most of them water. So maybe try to tape one of those and watch it to make yourself feel better. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></div>
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Yeah, watch house of babies, it will negate all that other stuff on TLC. Watch the commercials on TLC, they are for formula and diapers. So, I guess you can expect anything less than that. The commercial world is a cruel and can really dictate what a channel airs.<br><br>
The only good thing about TLC(when I watched it with my 1st pg) is I knew what I didn't want for my l&d. Medical, sterile environment and someone yelling at me to push! It really kept me focus on an un-medicated, peaceful, water birth. And that is what I had.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Watch the commercials on TLC, they are for formula and diapers. So, I guess you can expect anything less than that. The commercial world is a cruel and can really dictate what a channel airs.</div>
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Good point. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
I think I might get more sad about the lack of breastfeeding & BFing support than I do about the medicalized births. I remember seeing one episode of "Bringing Home Baby" that killed me. The format of that show is they do maybe 5 minutes on the pregnancy and birth, then the focus is on the first few weeks at home as the parents adjust to life with a babe. This mom was really interested in breastfeeding, but didn't seem to get any help at the hospital. Meanwhile she was shoving a pacifier in the baby's mouth whenever she cried. The baby was sucking on one in the car on the way home from the hospital. And the mom kept saying, "She just won't latch, she gets on for a second then pulls away!" And when she'd pull away and cry, they'd give her the paci. Sigh. This lasted maybe a few days before the mom started "supplementing" and then switched to all formula. It just made me so sad...where was the LC at the hospital? Where was the education? It's one thing if a mom has no interest in BFing....it's another if she really wants to but knows nothing about it, and there's no one around to teach her the basics. Argh!
 

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I have to be the negative one here. I don't even like House of Babies. It irritates me as much as all the others. I hate how they only show the tub births and then she is yelling at them to push or stop pushing...yeah, I don't like that one either.<br><br>
But don't worry about the TV thing. It's good to just lay down and rest while you are sick. And if the TV gets your mind off of being miserable, than why not?<br><br>
I hope you start feeling better soon.
 

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Thanks EmmaWoodhouse. I'm feeling much better today, but was sent home from work because I still don't have a voice! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"><br><br>
I abstained from the TV today, I couldn't take anymore foolishness. Honestly, I expected the medical aspect, and although it at times annoys me, I understand that many women don't know they have a choice, or have been scared into thinking the alternatives are too dangerous. I really try not to judge other people for the decisions they make, though at times it is hard. But I don't like to be judged by others, and I try to keep that in mind.<br><br>
At times I feel it is really difficult to be understanding though. We live in a time when information (both good and bad) is literally at our fingertips. And even some of the worse sources are better than none, really. Especially about breastfeeding. Even this mainstream book my mom picked up at the library <i>The Yummy Mummy Manifesto</i> has some decent bfing advice. Of course, if it weren't for my love of documentaries and Netflix, I would have never seen BOBB, and if it weren't for Borders and their expansive magazine collection I would have never read Mothering or been turned on to the wealth of information out there. I'm such a nerd really, but as soon as I saw that + on my pg test, I bought and read the whole <i>What to Expect When You're Expecting</i> in one week, then I watched this kooky documentary by Ricki Lake that I'd had in my Netflix queu for a while, then I picked up every pg magazine at Borders. And I guess that completely changed my life. Because the more research I did, the more uncomfortable I became about the status quo. How hard is it for every woman out there to arm herself with the same information? Or do women just not even question the way things are?
 

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Most people don't question anything. I know it's true, but when confronted with it in real life I still find it baffling. I can't imagine, for example, submitting to an induction without doing a buttload of research on it. But so many people just sort of blindly follow what their docs say. I have a friend who is like that and it's so alien to me. When she talks about her son's pediatrician, he sounds so controlling to me and gives her advice/commandments about so much stuff that's outside his realm. But she actually wants him to be MORE black and white with her. She was quizzing him about what solids to feed when, and when he tried to tell her it's something you just feel out as you go, she complained to me that she wanted him to just TELL HER WHAT TO DO. Meanwhile I've fired two peditaricians for stepping outside their bounds and giving me what I know to be misinformation.<br><br>
*shrug*<br><br>
I feel so misanthropic saying it, but most people are sheep and love an authority figure telling them what to do. I'm just thankful that like you I was given a healthy dose of nerdy skepticism at birth. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue">
 

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I hate this attitude! I really feel that it has so much to do with the fact that women are taught NOT to trust their mothering instincts before they even concieve. It's so subtle, but if you're turned onto it you see it everywhere. There is a real culture of fear (of the unknown) that surrounds pregnancy, birth, and beyond. And very little respect for a mother who really <i>mothers</i>. A genuine, motherly mom (esp. SAHMs) has been made into a sort-of nervous, knee stocking/cashmere cardigan wearing or SUV driving, latte clutching, hectic career/soccer mom cliche. It seems silly to me, but then I grew up with a SAHM and babies and knew tons of people who had tons of children, so for me the idea of childrearing and motherhood is less abstract than I think it is for many of my mainstream friends.<br><br>
agh. and so I digress. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/blahblah.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="blah blah"> yay for nerdy scepticism!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have to be the negative one here. I don't even like House of Babies. It irritates me as much as all the others. I hate how they only show the tub births and then she is yelling at them to push or stop pushing...yeah, I don't like that one either.</div>
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EmmaWoodhouse, I agree with that part. It is the one thing that does bother me about that show.
 
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