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Hello all,<br><br>
We are at our wit's end. DS, 7 weeks old was a beautiful nurser until recently. We have been awake since 2:30 a.m. this morning.<br><br>
Here are the symptoms: 1) he nurses for a minute on a breast and then will pop off and start wailing in frustration (I have tried to force him back on the breast, but he continues to pop off and cry).<br>
2) he occasionally makes a click sound while nursing<br>
3) he is not satisfied, as he remains awake and alert and does not get drowsy<br>
4) he occasionally, when awake will thrust his tongue in and out of his mouth<br>
5) my breasts are full (after nursing), as I am able to easily hand express<br>
6) his tongue appears to have a bit white plaque (I do not think that this is thrush as I have no symptoms and I am able to wipe this off)<br>
7) his "spit up" is a a thicker consistency than milk (hard to describe)<br>
8) he is taking forever to bottle feed, about 1.5 hours for 4 -6 ounces of milk (my husband feeds him a bottle of ebm in the evenings so that I could sleep, lately he has been eating very slowly... yet, cries when we stop feeding him)<br>
9) green poop in the last few days<br><br>
Is this an ear infection? Is it my breastfeeding technique (cradle hold)? I have even tried the side and back positions, with no success.<br><br>
Any suggestions are appreciated. I have spent the whole day crying with him. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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Since he's currently refusing the breast, I would stop the bottles for now. Could he have an ear infection? Has he been congested? (often comes before an ear infection)<br><br>
I'd try different nursing positions, in case it's a position thing.<br><br>
good luck and let us know how it goes!<br><br>
-Angela
 

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That sounds so frustrating. I just wanted to say that my DS is exclusively breastfed and sometimes his poop is different colors, including green. Also, his spit-up is sometimes kind of like cottage cheese.<br><br>
Good luck.
 

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Yes, try a different position or the other breast. My baby does that once in a while, we just burp her, change positions or try the other side and it usually works. Also be careful of what you are eating. Strong tasting foods may make your milk taste different than what they are used to.
 

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it definitely sounds like something upper respiratory, especially with that clicking. See if you can't position him such that he is upright when he nurses. That'll help the congestion drain. Also, see if you can't suction out his nose a bit, or put in some saline drops to loosen anything that is in there.<br><br>
Poor honies, both of you! You need some rest and relief. Good luck.
 

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We are at our wit's end. DS, 7 weeks old was a beautiful nurser until recently. We have been awake since 2:30 a.m. this morning.<br><br>
Here are the symptoms: 1) he nurses for a minute on a breast and then will pop off and start wailing in frustration (I have tried to force him back on the breast, but he continues to pop off and cry).<br>
2) he occasionally makes a click sound while nursing<br>
3) he is not satisfied, as he remains awake and alert and does not get drowsy<br>
4) he occasionally, when awake will thrust his tongue in and out of his mouth<br>
5) my breasts are full (after nursing), as I am able to easily hand express<br>
6) his tongue appears to have a bit white plaque (I do not think that this is thrush as I have no symptoms and I am able to wipe this off)<br>
7) his "spit up" is a a thicker consistency than milk (hard to describe)<br>
8) he is taking forever to bottle feed, about 1.5 hours for 4 -6 ounces of milk (my husband feeds him a bottle of ebm in the evenings so that I could sleep, lately he has been eating very slowly... yet, cries when we stop feeding him)<br>
9) green poop in the last few days<br><br>
Is this an ear infection? Is it my breastfeeding technique (cradle hold)? I have even tried the side and back positions, with no success.<br><br>
Any suggestions are appreciated. I have spent the whole day crying with him. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"></div>
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My DD is like this. She's 3 months old today! This all started about the age of your DS. We think it was nipple confustion with the bottle and pacifier. If you can, stop giving the bottle and the pacifier if you give one. When did you start with bottles/pacifiers? I started at about 4-5 weeks (actually she had one bottle at 2 weeks and then much later). Apparently "late onset" nipple confusion is more common than you'd think.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Hello all,<br><br>
We are at our wit's end. DS, 7 weeks old was a beautiful nurser until recently. We have been awake since 2:30 a.m. this morning.<br><br>
Here are the symptoms: 1) he nurses for a minute on a breast and then will pop off and start wailing in frustration (I have tried to force him back on the breast, but he continues to pop off and cry).<br>
2) he occasionally makes a click sound while nursing<br>
3) he is not satisfied, as he remains awake and alert and does not get drowsy<br>
4) he occasionally, when awake will thrust his tongue in and out of his mouth<br>
5) my breasts are full (after nursing), as I am able to easily hand express<br>
6) his tongue appears to have a bit white plaque (I do not think that this is thrush as I have no symptoms and I am able to wipe this off)<br>
7) his "spit up" is a a thicker consistency than milk (hard to describe)<br>
8) he is taking forever to bottle feed, about 1.5 hours for 4 -6 ounces of milk (my husband feeds him a bottle of ebm in the evenings so that I could sleep, lately he has been eating very slowly... yet, cries when we stop feeding him)<br>
9) green poop in the last few days<br><br>
Is this an ear infection? Is it my breastfeeding technique (cradle hold)? I have even tried the side and back positions, with no success.<br><br>
Any suggestions are appreciated. I have spent the whole day crying with him. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"></div>
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Hey, lunapier, I know you!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> I'm glad to see you posting here, as the ladies here have some great suggestions and advice.<br><br>
I definitely agree on the no more artificial nipple thing, at least until he is nursing well again. I also think it is important to make sure nothing is hurting him in the mouth area....things like ear infection, etc. Making sure he is not congested is a good idea (getting the bathroom hot and steamy can help with that if he is very stuffy).<br><br>
I'm sorry about the no-sleep thing....it's such an awful feeling to be sleep deprived and frustrated. Definitely make sure you get some sleep tonight. In between nursing sessions, hand him off to your husband and tell him to get out of the room and go somewhere else! You need sleep to stay healthy and keep your supply up.
 

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hi,<br><br>
my new dd did the same thing, starting about 3 weeks old. It was really tough to get through all the screaming. It was also *really* hard on me, to be offering my baby a part of my own body, the best gift a mother can give her child, and for her to scream at me like I was killing her. I don't know what made her scream likt that, and I don't know why she has now stopped. In my case it lasted about three weeks and then the screaming just vanished. I know it is so hard to go through, but just keep with it. It prob. seems to you like your baby isn't getting enough to eat, but babe is probably fine. Has he had 6-8 wet diapers a day? Sorry I'm not that much help, I jsut wanted you to know that we've been through it too, and it will get better!
 

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Couldn't read and not respond. You're doing a great job mama, it's a rough patch. I agree to not use artificial nipples if at all possible. It occured to me that you are offering a bottle in the evening and that is when baby tend to want to nurse alot to tank up for night and release the energy of the day by sucking. So he may be pacifing on that evening bottle adding to the nipple confusion. It sounds like he could be frustrated by a slow letdown (compared to the bottle). Could you try getting a letdown started and then pop him on? He may suck for longer that way. Are you sore at all? The clicking can sometimes indicate the tongue is not extended enough? You've gotten some other good suggestions here. If you don't find a solution soon you might contact an IBCLC or LLL Leader to observe. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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Quick update.<br><br>
DS had a mild temperature of 99.5 last night (unfortunately we took his temperature after a dose of Tylenol, don't ask me why... in moments of frustration, I do not always think). So, this morning we went to the doctor. His temperature was 99.1 (again after a dose of Tylenol at 6 in the morning).<br><br>
The doc checked his throat, ears, mouth, feet, tummy, head etc... She also smelled his poop and checked it as well for blood. As he appeared very normal - save for the symptoms, I spoke about earlier, she concluded that we should watch him, feed him frequently (even if it is only a one minute at a time every 45 minutes or so) and not use Tylenol. If he does not have fever, she believes that he may have reflux (as diagnosed by the weird tongue action, I described). If he does have a fever, then it just may be a viral infection. If no fever, then we may have to consider taking some sort of low dosage Pepcid. I am a bit uncomfortable with him taking medication.<br><br>
If it is not reflux, my husband suggested - and this may sound crazy - that I try to catch whatever DS may have and thereby produce immunities for it through my breastmilk. I will let him sneeze on me today.<br><br>
Thank you for your good suggestions. It was heartening to read everyone's thoughts and know that my baby is not "rejecting" me and this is sometimes occurs during the breastfeeding relationship. BTW, I changed my breastfeeding position and fed him while our tummies were touching.<br><br>
It is going to be a long night... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/afro.jpg" style="border:0px solid;" title="afro">
 
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