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So I'm sitting here nursing my baby before his afternoon nap and the doorbell rings. I rush up to answer it and find that the mailman has left me a package...<br><br>
OF ENFAMIL FORMULA!<br><br>
I have not filled out any forms or any such thing during my pregnancy or postpartum. I made sure that Toys R Us and Target DID NOT have permission to sell my address and due date when I registered with them, and up until now, 8 weeks after the birth of my baby, I haven't gotten *any* baby related mailings (no disosable diapers, no forumla, no magazines, NOTHING).<br><br>
So I call enfamil to gripe and as I'm on hold, this message comes on: "Every day thousands of babies are fed Emfamil brand formulas before they even leave the hospital..." and then something to the effect of that being why they can't answer my call in a timely fashion. If I had to hear that again, I was going to hang up and send them hate mail so I didn't have to listen to how they're so wonderful and one of their "baby nutrition experts" would be on the line shortly.<br><br>
So I finally get on the line with a "baby nutrition expert" and she asks for my name and zip code. Hmm...I'm not in the computer. Do I get mail from them? I answer "yes, and that's what I'm calling about. I got a can of formula addressed to my son in the mail today and I DON'T WANT IT." I ask to be removed from the mailing list and I ask where they got my information. Apparantly it came from the ped's office and was sold to them WITHOUT MY PERMISSION. I haven't called the office to gripe yet, but I'm considering leaving the practice over this...<br><br>
GRRR!
 

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If you still have the packaging write RETURN TO SENDER and drop it in a mailbox. If everyone did this, if they had to pay shipping twice on every stinking can they woudl rethink this policy.
 

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oops double and triple post! egads! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">See how mad they get me?
 

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If you are sure it's the ped. I would definitely think about leaving! Oh and I sure would be writing them a NASTYGRAM!<br><br>
Some links for you if you choose to write a letter:<br><a href="http://www.aap.org/policy/re9729.html" target="_blank">http://www.aap.org/policy/re9729.html</a><br><a href="http://www.breastfeeding.com/reading_room/formula_disaster.html" target="_blank">http://www.breastfeeding.com/reading..._disaster.html</a><br><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/newman/health_pro_unsupportive_01-03.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/newman/healt...ive_01-03.html</a><br><a href="http://www.promom.org/bf_info/why_low.htm" target="_blank">http://www.promom.org/bf_info/why_low.htm</a><br><br>
Dr. Jack Newman calls the samples/money/free trips/new hospital wings that doctors/hospitals accept from formula companies BRIBES and I agree.<br>
 

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Well, I was just personally assured by my doctor's nurse that they do not sell *any* information to formula companies and that if they had sold it, I could sue them for breach of confidentiality.<br><br>
I don't know where it came from...the formula company had his exact birthday and his name (misspelled), and even where he was born (birth center in ____ town), so I know the information came from SOMEWHERE! That's pretty scary, actually.<br><br>
Wonder if someone at the dr.s office is making money on the side? That's all I can think of. No one else except my MW has his information and I know she didn't sell it to them. We haven't even registered him in DEERS (the USAF registry) yet, so I just can't imagine where this came from!
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/headscratch.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="headscratch"><br><br>
I did make a WIC appointment last week. Do you think it was the WIC office?<br><br>
Oh, I'd just LOVE to raise Hell with them over this!!
 

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Just a thought, but what about newspaper birth announcements? Or did you order birth announcements from a company?<br><br>
Could they get something from vital statistics public records when you filed for a birth certificate?<br><br>
I don't know, jsut wondering and throwing out ideas...<br><br>
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birth ctr????
 

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Nope, wasn't the birth center. The "birth center" is a house my MW owns so those of us who are too far away from her can have "homebirths." She's the only one who works there and she didn't do it. No birth announcements ordered or in the paper. And his name was misspelled (Alley instead of Atley), so it wasn't anyone who truly knows us. Vital stats, maybe, but then again, his name was misspelled.<br><br>
I think I'm going to ask WIC. That's the only other place I can think of that I've given out his entire name and birthdate to. I haven't filled anything out online recently or *anything* because this is exactly what I was trying to AVOID. It's kinda scary that some company out there has all of this information on us w/o our consent. I'm sure it's just the tip of the iceberg, though <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes">.
 

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When you called to make the appointment, did you disclose all of the info that the formula company had??? Address, names, birth center, birthdate, etc...<br><br>
When you call WIC, ask them how they have your son's name spelled.<br><br>
I don't think that WIC is permitted to give out info about it's recipients...please disclose the info you find about WIC giving out/not giving out your info...b/c people will automatically assume even further that, WIC is only about formula and that WIC is undesirable.<br><br>
As a bfing WIC recipient, who has had very good experiences with WIC, I have a hard time when people talk badly about them. As, I have had positive experiences with them and bfing, I'd love to hear what happened.<br><br>
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Have you signed up for any freebies, raffles, or contests with your son's name? For example, websites occasionally have "Win a $100 shopping spree for your child," promos. What about Motherhood Maternity? I know they sell names.<br><br>
OH!!!!!! And so do child product companies. As far as I know, the only car seat maker that doesn't sell names is <a href="http://www.britaxusa.com/" target="_blank">Britax</a>. When you return that little, <b>very important</b> postcard to register so they can send you information about recalls, the other companies (as far as I know, <i>all</i> the other companies), harvest your information to be passed on. So, if you bought any new baby equipment like a car seat or swing and returned that <b>very important</b> card, that could be where they got their information.
 

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Could a well-meaning friend or relative have filled out some kind of "freebie" offer for you?<br><br>
It should be interesting to see what else shows up with the same misspelling.
 

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I haven't called WIC, but I'm wondieng if it wasn't someone we know who filled it out in his name, though most of our family is breastfeeding-friendly <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug">. His name is easy to interpret as Alley when it's hand written b/c the L and T look alike. I'm still going to ask the WIC office, though.<br><br>
UlrikeDG, I've very intentionally avoided all of those types of sign up things. The telltale is that the formula company knew where he was born. I know I haven't given that information to anyone recently, save WIC and the Ped's office.<br><br>
Very frustrating!!
 

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Did you buy anything at Motherhood maternity or did anyone buy anything for you? When I was pregnant w/ my second I bought a couple of things from Motherhood and expressly told them DO NOT SIGN ME UP FOR ARTIFICIAL BABY MILK propaganda. THe lady looked at me like I had two heads and 3 weeks later I got my welcoming letter and case of formula! I was so angry!
 

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:LOL I did shop at Motherhood and when I checked out they said "It looks like mail to you is coming back undeliverable. Would you like to update your address with us so you can get coupons and stuff?" I said "absolutely not; I don't need the coupons." She also looked at me like I had two heads.<br><br>
I got really upset on that same visit because a mama was in there buying a nursing bra and when she checked out, Motherhood got her address and everything by telling her they'd send her coupons for diapers "and other baby stuff." I know she was on her way to getting the breastfeeding sabatoge mail <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry">.<br><br>
Also, since they had his b-day, not his due date (two different days), this had to be something recent. Motherhood was not recent. I think it's just going to remain a mystery <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">.
 

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BTW, WIC can't sell your information because of HIPPA (HIPA?) regulations.
 

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What you can do with the formula is donate it to a mother (maybe a homeless woman?) who is already an established formula feeder, or you could even give it to an adoptive mom who is trying to induce lactation and needs to use formula in the SNS thingie that she wears around her neck...that way the formula can be used to help a mom bf!<br><br>
I don't know why this happens to some people and not others...I gave birth in the hospital, get WIC, and dd has a birth certificate and pediatrician...dh fills out all those recall info cards too, but I've never gotten free formula.<br><br>
Also, I hear that some hospitals only give formula samples to moms who say they plan to bf.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry">
 
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