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Nevermind, he vetoed it. Special interest money. <a href="http://www.fairfoodfight.com/node/1388" target="_blank">http://www.fairfoodfight.com/node/1388</a><br><br>
He is finally doing something right! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><br><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i-bGbGoB254dlLsd1o84roj_hLogD9FGHLEO0" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/..._hLogD9FGHLEO0</a>
 

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Wooohooo I'm super excited about this! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy">
 

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People should be aware of the health dangers of drinking raw milk. That's why they invented pasteurization, because people were getting sick from raw milk. In my (<span style="font-size:xx-small;">unpopular dissenting</span>) opinion, raw milk is about as safe as pond water. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/horrors.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Horrors">
 

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ERSS: pasteurization allows people to "safely" drink milk from unhealthy cows. animals kept in clean humane conditions, who are kept on organic pasture, make extremely safe milk that does not need to be cooked.
 

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I disagree. And actually pasture-fed cows tend to carry more bacteria than cows in a well-maintained free stall barn. Dirt just naturally harbors a lot more bacteria, such as Bacillus sp. Most notably Bacillus cereus which often causes ear infections.
 

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ERSS- if you don't feel safe drinking it, then don't drink it. As far as my family goes, we are well educated on the subject and still choose to buy our milk from a farm where I know the farmer and I can see the animals and where they are pastured. I should have the right to buy what I feel is a healthier choice for my family. That's all this bill does. It allows direct farmer-to-consumer sales. Which means the people who will be buying it have to go out of their way to find a farm and go to the farm to purchase the milk. Which, by the way, assures accountability since we will know exactly where our milk came from.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Now if only Minnesota would get on board!! I would also like to be able to choose what milk my family drinks.</div>
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We can already do this. We can't buy it retail in grocery stores, but it is legal in MN to go to a farm and buy the milk directly from the farmer.
 

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It looks like all those calls I placed to Gov Doyle are paying off! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"><br><br>
ERSS: If you don't want to drink raw milk, you don't have to because you have a choice. However, my choice to drink raw milk was taken away from me last year and I'm fighting hard to get it back. Even if you don't want to drink "pond water," I would hope that you would stand up for personal freedom.
 

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This thread should be updated again. Doyle vetoed the bill late on Wed. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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I saw that on the news last night - I am peeeved. So there is no way now in WI to purchase raw milk?
 

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Well, the current laws state that "incidental sales" are allowed. The question is, what constitutes incidental sales? From everything that's happened in the last 9 months, DATCP has gone overboard to crush any farms that have anything to do with raw milk. I don't know what the fallout will be, but I encourage anybody who believes that they should have the right to purchase a food they feel is healthy (whether you are a fan of raw milk or not), please call Mike SHeridan, speaker of the assembly, to ask him to call a special session to override the veto. It's raw milk today, maybe homeschooling tomorrow? Meat and eggs at the farmer's market? Irradiation for the produce at the farmer's market? This is about freedom of choice. Ironic that we even have this battle in a state that values it's personal freedom so much that there is NO helmet law for motorcycles and a soon-to-be concealed carry law.
 

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Kristenok18 - I know exactly what you mean! I'm just stunned by Doyle's move. He has nothing to lose by signing since he's not running for re-election.<br><br>
I can see possibly spilling over into limiting meat & egg sales at farmer's markets, which is just <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy"> This state continues to stun me with what it finds acceptable and then unacceptable.
 

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What a bummer! I mean, I get why pasteurization became the norm, but I don't get why they let the milk industry lobby bulldoze them on this. I mean, many of them probably grew up on milk from the bulk tank anyway. Grrr.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I disagree. And actually pasture-fed cows tend to carry more bacteria than cows in a well-maintained free stall barn. Dirt just naturally harbors a lot more bacteria, such as Bacillus sp. Most notably Bacillus cereus which often causes ear infections.</div>
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There is NO WAY that pastured dairy cows carry more dangerous bacteria than feed lot cows. You can't tell me that a feed lot is a healthier environment...they are living in their own filth, rather than in the grass. Grazing animals that never see the pasture are THE reason that all of our meat and dairy animals are treated with antibiotics now.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">There is NO WAY that pastured dairy cows carry more dangerous bacteria than feed lot cows. You can't tell me that a feed lot is a healthier environment...they are living in their own filth, rather than in the grass. Grazing animals that never see the pasture are THE reason that all of our meat and dairy animals are treated with antibiotics now.</div>
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Sorry, but I have science, you have theories.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Sorry, but I have science, you have theories.</div>
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No, you have bullying tactics and fear mongering. The dairy mafia has ample funds to back studies that serve interests. Those that advocate for raw milk simply don't have those kinds of resources to fund the studies that would advocate the advantages of raw milk.<br><br>
Again, if YOU don't want to drink raw milk, DON'T. I refuse to drink conventional feed-lot produced milk, but I'm not going to say anything about your right to choose that option.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Sorry, but I have science, you have theories.</div>
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Uh, you didn't mention or quote any studies.<br><br>
And it is clear that the rise of antibiotic use in dairy cattle has coincided with the move away from pastured animals and toward "factory farms".
 

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It disgusts me that Gov. Doyle would give in to big Ag. He could have started a huge wave for personal freedom that would radiate throughout the country, but he ended up letting us down. Sadly, it does not surprise me.
 
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