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Hi ladies,<br><br>
So the cat idea didnt work out. My mom casually said something like "you and that cat, you moan about her and say you want to get rid of her but you would be lost without her wouldnt you?" and the owner replied "on my moody days i want to get rid of her but yes you're right, i love her really". I got my mom to ask her like that, because it suddenly occured to me how this woman lives all alone, has said numerous times how she gets very lonely, and the only company she has at home is her cat. I would feel bad taking it. From that conversation, she would most likely say no anyway. Which was a bit disappointing at first, but im glad really because she needs the cat more than i do. After all Im not alone, I live with my son.<br><br>
I wasnt convinced about a cat instead of a dog too...for quite a few reasons.<br><br>
Well i've decided to wait until we are living in a house (so we have a garden), then buy a golden retriever puppy. I'll get one from a registered breeder, because after reading up on the breed (which seems PERFECT for us!) i found out they often suffer with hip displaysia (not sure i spelt that right). So it says best to get one from a breeder who has the parent dogs tested for it.<br><br>
What do you guys think about golden retrievers?<br>
ahhh....i cant wait! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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Check this out:<br><br><a href="http://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/reviews/goldenretrievers.html" target="_blank">http://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/rev...etrievers.html</a><br><br>
HTH!
 

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i just took a good look through all that sites reviews on the different breeds, they say loads of bad stuff about ALL of them! geez!!<br><br>
Well from that site, im back to where I started, in thinking the 'pug' is the right breed for us.<br><br>
No one would ever buy a dog if they read that stuff. I think its a bit over the top.
 

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I am not sure why that just because that particular cat is out that you cant get another cat from the SPCA or a rescue? Cats are wonderful companions and will provide you with the soft cuddly love you want. And if you still want a dog when you move into a house, you can do that too. Dogs and cats can peacefully coexist, no matter what the cartoons say. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">i just took a good look through all that sites reviews on the different breeds, they say loads of bad stuff about ALL of them! geez!!<br><br>
Well from that site, im back to where I started, in thinking the 'pug' is the right breed for us.<br><br>
No one would ever buy a dog if they read that stuff. I think its a bit over the top.</div>
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Thats kinda the point. If you are given the worst case scenario, knowing ALL of the potential bad things that <i>could</i> happen, and are still up for getting that breed - then you're good to go!<br><br>
Its information. Information = power. Power to make an informed decision, especially where a first time dog owner is concerned. (Like myself)<br><br>
The book is extremely informative. Its helped me sooo much. What do I want? What are my needs? What is my training ability? What breed is good for kids and why or why not? Does this dog shed alot? Does it smell? (I didnt realize before that some dogs have more of an odor than others - to me, no matter how great the dog is, if it has doggy odor, I cant do it)<br><br>
Do you feel like you're drowning with all the different breeds and where to start? I did. I know NOTHING of dogs - just which ones I thought looked good. But sometimes the ones that look great, are a complete mis-match for your family. So, no matter how cute/beautiful a dog looks to you, its not gonna help when you want to smack it 'cause it barks ALL the time. But maybe the look of a dog does nothing for you, but it fits all of your criteria (low shedding, low excercise, easy to train, great with kids) you'll end up being happier b/c your relationship with the dog will be a more positive one, does that make sense? (morning tea hasnt kicked in yet. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> )<br><br>
I'm just starting my journey on finding the right dog, join me if you wish. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Check this out:<br><br><a href="http://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/reviews/goldenretrievers.html" target="_blank">http://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/rev...etrievers.html</a><br><br>
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I dont honestly think that that place is the place to do a review on certain breeds ...
 

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Why not? (not snarky, just curious <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> )
 

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well it seems to be very negative... while i know people need the negatives they lack the positives these dogs have also. The breed I rescue they say that unless they have a farm they are not happy and that is just not true at all with the breed i rescue (Catahoula's) while they like to work there are many options of working them without them being on a farm.
 

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Ah, good point.<br><br>
But wouldnt it be safer to go with more negatives to the unexperienced?<br><br>
BTW, I have the book, and it focuses on more positives there. It seems like you need both the book <i>and</i> website to get all the info.<br><br>
Thanks for the input though. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Yeh I found that site very negative. Honestly it makes every breed look pretty bad. Sure none are going to be 100% perfect, but it just seemed a bit over the top with the bad. Like they went too far. I know of lots of large breed dogs living in apartments (decent sized ones) who look happy and well taken care of, and they get 2 walks a day on the field accross the road. That site says the dogs wont be happy living in an apartment without a garden or without a huge amount of exercise every day. And it says every breed gets plagued with bad health...thats not true really. Yeh they are going to get sick at times but they just seem to make it sound so bad. I think it would put any new dog owner off.<br><br>
Ive read lots of dog books since being a kid. I dont know everything about each breed but I know more than your average person does.<br><br>
Moving on though...lol<br><br>
I really want to find the right dog for me and not rush into anything but its hard because I want one NOW! ya know?? I guess I should join you SHENJALL in finding the right breed for me. thanks <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Are you making a list of things you want the dog to be? I'll do that first.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I am not sure why that just because that particular cat is out that you cant get another cat from the SPCA or a rescue? Cats are wonderful companions and will provide you with the soft cuddly love you want. And if you still want a dog when you move into a house, you can do that too. Dogs and cats can peacefully coexist, no matter what the cartoons say. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"></div>
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ive always wanted a dog. theres way more good points to dogs than cats (in my opinion). dogs just appeal way more to me than cats.
 

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I think it is extremely important to know the negatives about any breed. I think the good points go without saying, but people need to understand the negatives. The breeds you have considered so far would probably not be a good fit for you, not because you've never owned a dog, but because the nature of the breed makes it a poor fit for your situation. Yorkies and JRT's are great dogs for the right person. So are Goldens. Retrievers are high-energy dogs and if that is what you're looking for, great. If you are looking for a calm lap dog to live in your house, they are probably not a good fit.<br><br>
A big advantage to waiting on your move to find a dog is that it gives you plenty of time to research breeds and learn more about dogs in general. It also allows you plenty of time to save up for a dog from a reputable breeder if you do indeed end up with a purebred.<br><br>
I wanted a dog forever, but I knew I did not want a small dog. Up until two and a half years ago, we lived in an apartment and they had a strict 45lb weight limit. I knew that if I wanted a large dog, I would have to wait until we moved into a house. Once we moved into a house, we still weren't completely ready but we kept looking. I looked at several giant breeds before deciding on a Great Dane. I knew the negatives - short life-span, lazy, large poops, they eat a ton, they are expensive to vet, clumsy, prone to knocking over little ones, drooling, etc. But I felt like all of those were things that we could accept because I liked the personality of the breed, the size, and the look of them. We had also made up our minds that we absolutely did not want a puppy. Normal-sized puppies are enough of a pain. The thought of having to deal with puppy behavior in a 100+ lb dog was a total turn-off. Puppies are adorable, but not for us.<br><br>
By the time we were ready, we knew exactly what we wanted. Going through rescue, we had the option to foster before adopting. It gave us the opportunity to find the right dog for our home. Our first foster was a lovely dog, but wasn't too crazy about kids and was also horrible at the dog park. He would not work for us because he was not the right fit. Having a dog that would be very sociable at the dog park was important to us and the fact that we needed one that loved kids goes without saying. We finally found the perfect dog in this goofy-looking young brindle female. I wanted a male blue merle, but the one we found was not a good fit. We had to wait for the right dog to come in.<br><br>
Sometimes what we think is the ideal, really isn't. It takes a lot of time to find the right dog for your family and I strongly encourage you to research ALL of your options before settling on something that looks like exactly what you want, but may be a poor fit for you. You can choose a breed because you think it is beautiful, but no matter how pretty it is, they are all going to have issues of their own. What may be a minor thing for me could be a deal-breaker for you. Everyone has their own list of things they will or will not tolerate and they are all different. You just have to decide what you are willing to accept because no dog is going to be perfect all of the time.
 

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Yeah that.<br><br>
I wanted to add a point about waiting. I know it sucks. I realllly want a dog now. I keep thinking about how great it would be, etc. TOTALLY thru rose coloured glasses, I know.<br>
I keep reminding myself, it takes 9 months for a new baby to come into the family. And thats <i>if</i> you get pregnant the first try and baby's born healthy. So, for others it may take longer. So, on average, if a person is waiting a year to add a new baby, and prepare yourself for it, its not unreasonable to wait at least as long for a dog.<br><br>
I hope that helps you thru the decision time, it helps me. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">ive always wanted a dog. theres way more good points to dogs than cats (in my opinion). dogs just appeal way more to me than cats.</div>
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But...I thought you didn't want all the work and responsibility of a dog? That is why you were considering a cat. Do you realize that you will need to care for dogs much more than cats (I'm a dog lover as well). And for a large dog with hip issues(possible hip issues) you are looking at making sure you take every effort to prevent this issue from occuring. Can you do that?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">But...I thought you didn't want all the work and responsibility of a dog? That is why you were considering a cat. Do you realize that you will need to care for dogs much more than cats (I'm a dog lover as well). And for a large dog with hip issues(possible hip issues) you are looking at making sure you take every effort to prevent this issue from occuring. Can you do that?</div>
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i dont know. im pretty sure i could handle the responsibility of a dog when im raising a child on my own (well with family support) but as a single mom i mean. no one enjoys cleaning up dog poop do they? but i know im capable of doing it. etc. the down side points seem out weighed by all the good points of owning a dog ya know?? so i dont want to let the few bad things put me off.<br><br>
theres good and bad points in having a child, but the good points out weigh the bad (for most people), so we dont let those fewer bad things stop us. do u know what i mean??<br><br>
theres down sides to everything in life, but if the good out weigh the bad, we should go for it right? lol i know i probably sound 16? but i AM 20...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Yeah that.<br><br>
I wanted to add a point about waiting. I know it sucks. I realllly want a dog now. I keep thinking about how great it would be, etc. TOTALLY thru rose coloured glasses, I know.<br>
I keep reminding myself, it takes 9 months for a new baby to come into the family. And thats <i>if</i> you get pregnant the first try and baby's born healthy. So, for others it may take longer. So, on average, if a person is waiting a year to add a new baby, and prepare yourself for it, its not unreasonable to wait at least as long for a dog.<br><br>
I hope that helps you thru the decision time, it helps me. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></div>
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yeh thanks, i know what you mean. its so easy to get a dog though...but yea not the right way.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">yeh thanks, i know what you mean. its so easy to get a dog though...but yea not the right way.</div>
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Oh yeah, super easy! Open paper, pick one, cheap, boom done. But morally, theres no way I can do it. No way.<br>
I'm having fun thinking and planning. Theres a dog show in my city in march that I'll be going to with dh. I cant wait! Anticipation can be fun!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">theres down sides to everything in life, but if the good out weigh the bad, we should go for it right? lol i know i probably sound 16? but i AM 20...</div>
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It's not age that is ever an issue, but experience, or lack thereof.<br><br>
I think perhaps you are even confused about what to do and were it me in this situation I would take this confusion as a sign to take no action.<br><br>
Sometimes the needs of the innocent need to come before our own wants, ya know?<br><br>
Oh I actually have a reat ancedotal story for you.<br><br>
When Dh and I first got together I wanted a Bassett Hound. Loved those adorable ears! Well, he bought me one and 4 months later I was tired of cleaning up poop and wanted to get rid of it. The poor thing had nothing to do with this he was just a baby, but I was selfish and wanted what I wanted when I wanted it. Thankfully we knew a friend who had been searching for the perfect pet for a few years and she had loved Rosco from day ne and she was mature enough to handle our little pup. So not only did I take Rosco from his dam and littermates, but then I put him through more stress and trauma of a new home after having been with us. Now I am glad that I have done research and know what kind of pets work best for our family. Meow-meows and fish <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
PS- my sweet Salem is all snuggled up to my on the bed- gotta love him!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">But...I thought you didn't want all the work and responsibility of a dog? That is why you were considering a cat. Do you realize that you will need to care for dogs much more than cats (I'm a dog lover as well). And for a large dog with hip issues(possible hip issues) you are looking at making sure you take every effort to prevent this issue from occuring. Can you do that?</div>
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I am going to agree with the Diva and share my experience. Dogs are so much more of a time commitment and expense than cats are. I grew up with dogs, and as an adult with children I have purposely chosen to have cats. All of the positives about having a companion animal I get, with VERY LITTLE work in comparison.<br><br>
Dogs require HOURS every day for exercise, play and care. They need to be bathed and groomed regularly. The exercise commitment alone that most dogs need would be a tremendous burden to our family. Dogs also have higher veterinary costs associated with them, and higher maintenance costs.<br><br>
I purposely sought out a specific type of personality for a cat...I wanted one that was very outgoing and loving, super playful and an outwardly friendly and affectionate cat. I worked with a respectible breeder and waited months for my cat to be ready (I also adopted an adult, which is better for young children and less work than a kitten). This cat is AWESOME. People come to our house, she walks up...talks to them and greets them. They can't help but pet her, she's so friendly. At night she follows me around, she comes when I call her and she "fetches"....NO JOKE...the cat will fetch toys which I throw. The kids play with her every day (as do I), she is super playful and we laugh watching her antics.<br><br>
Her personality is incredible, and it was well worth the time and effort I spent searching and looking for a special cat with the "right personality" to match our family. The breeder worked with us, and knew my family situation and matched us accordingly! She's more affectionate, fun and loving than either of the two dogs which I grew up with. Not all cats are this special, but there are definitely special cats out there. She must be psychic, just as I was writing this she walked up to me here at the computer and started up a conversation<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> . She KNOWS how special she is, I am sure of it! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
It's not that I am ant-dog...I honestly LOVE other people's dogs. I have watched other people's dogs even on occasion! Hey, DH even has the dog show on TV right now. I can appreciate dogs, but I also have to be honest with myself and my situation and know that I cannot devote the amount of time that most dogs need. To me, it would be too much work to do those things.
 
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