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My nipples have been irritated from day one and I've been able to rule out any yeast, bacterial or improper latch as the cause.<br><br>
A LC suggested that it might be dd's frenum that is causing the discomfort and subsequent chafing of the nipple. Has anyone heard of this?<br><br>
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I also had irritated nipples throughout with DD#1 not painful, just irritable. She nursed 2 years. At her first dentists appt at 3 years turns out she has an attached frenum. Dentist says it will self correct during childhood, read she will fall and it will tear<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> I am suspicous about DD#2 now too, since it is irritable this time too?? It looks attached to me, we shall see.
 

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i just got off the phone with a local dentist referred to me by the LC. he was super nice (we talked for 1/2 hour - his wife is also an LC and they're both big breastfeeding advocates) but said that he doesn't think he'd be able to snip isadora's frenum and that i might want to seek out an oral surgeon! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/yikes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="EEK!"><br><br>
i really don't know what to do. on one hand, i don't want isadora to go through any painful procedure, but on the other i'm beginning to get SO frustrated by this constant irritation.
 

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My baby had a tight frenulum or "tongue tie". It wasn't severe enough to prevent him from getting milk but it sure gave me "surfboard" nipples (for any one with a guy who surfs). I didn't realize it at first by my DH pointed out that everytime the baby was due to eat my first reaction was "oh..he's not really hungry yet..." he finally asked, why do you not want to seem to feed the baby, I thought you wanted to BF. Well I did want to BF, however, I was getting to be really uncomfortable everytime he nursed and he nursed for what seemed like forever 30-40 minutes. I took him to see an IBCLC where I work and gave birth, she said all was well with our latch on, but his tounge was likely the culprit. I was 2 weeks out and it was the christmas holidays so I had to wait several days to be seen. I went to a different ped than my own since few actually perform a tongue clip. I had this done since I really wanted to stop if it was going to hurt that much every time I fed him. His was very thin and one snip, one drop of blood and one latch on immediately after and it was all over. Instant difference and by 3 days BF was totally different and better, no constant pop-off, didn't need a ton of pillows, towel or boppy. And DS was able to get milk out much more efficiently. He now eats in 5 to 7 minutes and that is it.<br><br>
I know the LC and ped said if the frenulum is thicker or more vascular that it is better to be done by a oral surgeon. It was really hard to have a painful procedure done to my baby but the pain was brief and the results were worth it. Good luck.
 

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my dd was totally tongue tied at birth, i mean almost completely. her little tongue looked like a "v" when she cried. we never had any problems with her latch, or soreness or anything, luckily, and now, it HAS fixed itself. she can stick her tongue out to her chin! my childhood ped was the dr who saw her after birth, and his opinion was that it wasnt neccessary unless it was causing serious problems with bfing. he said he doesnt recommend it. i understand though, that like everyone else has said, it's not that big a deal if the frenulum is thin, and it can help alot. good luck with whatever you decide to do.
 

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i just registered that you said "frenum" and not "frenulum"! i'm sorry, i have no idea about frenums. that's the little piece of skin b/n the upper teeth and upper lip, right? i'm sorry for the useless frenulum advise <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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no, it's cool. actually, both frenum and frenulum is correct for both the upper front and underneath pieces of skin.<br><br>
what i'm afraid of is having to go to an oral surgeon because it's too thick to snip without putting her out. if that's the case, i'm thinking i might just forget the whole thing and put up with the discomfort for however long she decides to nurse.<br><br>
would any of you go ahead and have it done if it required your baby to be put out?
 

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I had never even heard of this until last week when my sil asked to look in ds's mouth. She was like yep they both have "that Reynolds(family name) thing." I had no clue what she as talking about and had never even looked at the kids frenums before. She said all the kids had it in the family and two of them (sisters) had to have them clipped because it was preventing their teeth from closing properly. Not sure if that is good information or not. Im going on hearsay.<br>
But sure enough both my kids have frenums that are attached all the way to the bottom of the gum line. I did start out with sore nipples and I had gone to a LC for help. They did point out that he wouldnt "flange?" onto my nipple. So it was a bad latch. Which I just accepted rather that trying to correct it. Now 7.5 months later I know why...<br>
He can't. His frenum is completely attached all the way down .<br>
Not sure what this might mean for us but I probably wont do anything about it.
 
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