[DaryLLL]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/10/16/rum....ap/index.html

Quote:

Appearing in dress uniform before a religious group in Oregon in June, Boykin said Islamic extremists hate the United States "because we're a Christian nation, because our foundation and our roots are Judeo-Christians. ... And the enemy is a guy named Satan." Boykin told one audience, "I knew my god was bigger than his. I knew that my god was a real god and his was an idol." Rumsfeld said[in defense of general]..."There are a lot of things that are said by people that are their views," he said, "and that's the way we live. We are free people and that's the wonderful thing about our country, and I think for anyone to run around and think that can be managed or controlled is probably wrong."

Sheesh, this Satan. I wish the Essenes had never invented him.

We are on God's side, everyone else is on Satan's side. This little idea causes a whole lotta messes.

Of course, the Yankees really are the Evil Empire.

(cue Star Wars theme)

just kidding!

 

[InfoisPower]

For me, any religion that demonises the "other", endorses slavery, treats women as chattel/cattle/half a person, disallows/discourages free thought, endorses mutilation of infants/children, indulges in indoctrination,etc. etc. is a religion of EVIL in my eyes.

That said, this I got from James Randi's site, there is no copyright as it's common internet flotsam and the article says as much: http://www.randi.org/jr/100303.html

I give you here a document which has been around the Internet. I've amplified and changed it a bit. I can't ascribe it to any specific source, though I tried hard.

It was recently mentioned that the Presidential Prayer Team is currently urging us to "Pray for the President as he seeks wisdom on how to legally codify the law. Pray that it will be according to Biblical principles. With many forces insisting on variant definitions of the commandments in the Bible, pray that God's Word and His standards will be honored by our government."

I'm sure any good Christian believes prayer should be balanced by action. So here, in support of the Prayer Team's admirable goals, is a proposed Constitutional Amendment codifying behavior and based entirely on Holy Bible principles:

1. Marriage in the United States shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5.) Marriage shall not impede a man's right to take concubines in addition to his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron 11:21)

2. A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed.(Deut 22:13-21) Marriage of a Christian and a pagan shall be forbidden. (Gen 24:3; Num 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30)

3. Since marriage is for life, neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any State, nor any state or federal law, shall be construed to permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark 10:9)

4. If a married man dies without children, his brother shall marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his brother's widow or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe and be otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Gen. 38:6-10; Deut 25:5-10)

5. The law must preserve the duty of each citizen to burn an ox as a sacrifice, regardless of whether the odor pleases the neighbors - as it does God - or not. (Lev 18:22)

6. Each citizen shall have the right to sell his daughter(s) into slavery, setting his own price. (Exodus 21:7)

7. All citizens may own slaves, like in the good old days, both male and female, so long as they're foreigners. (Lev 25:44)

8. Any citizen who finds his neighbor working on Sunday must kill him. (Exodus 35:2)

9. Eating shellfish of any sort must be deemed "an abomination," with penalties set by local law enforcement. (Lev 11:10)

10. Any citizen with poor eyesight and who nevertheless goes to church, shall be guilty of an abomination. (Lev 21:20)

11. Trimming the hair around the temples should be a capital crime. (Lev 19:27)

12. Since touching the skin of a dead pig makes one "unclean," no one can wear gloves made of pigskin. (Lev 11:6-8)

13. Anyone who plants two different crops in a field, who wears garments made of two different fabrics, or who curses or blasphemes, must be stoned to death. (Lev 19:19, 20:14)

Hallelujah! Praise the merciful Lord! And bring me some of those rocks over there!

 

[CollegeMama]

Geez, I've quit watching the news because it is causing me to be consumed with fear. So, I came here to see what's been going on and once again I'm consumed with fear. Is this really what's being said by the leaders of our country? What the heck is wrong with them. Haven't they heard of separation of Church and State?????

How would they feel if my Wiccan Sister or Brother were to take office and start throwing their religious views down peoples' throats? Why can't they understand this basic idea?
Perhaps I'll have to take leave of the Activism forum as well, if I'm going to try to stay positive. It's just so, so sad.

I fear for our country. Perhaps I shouldn't. Perhaps it's not as bad as the opponents of the Resident say it is. Maybe they are trying to scare the public into voting a sane person in. I don't blame them much for sinking to this level, I probably would too.

I just think I need to get myself several tickets to Canada so that my family and I can all live somewhere that's not as crazy and fear-driven as the USA.

 

[mahdokht]

:
yadda yadda yadda....

mahdokht

 

[sohj]

Quote:

Originally posted by DaryLLL ...Of course, the Yankees really are the Evil Empire....

:LOL

...haven't rooted for them since Thurman Munson died.

But, on topic....

I'm always worried when I hear "biblical principles".

You mean like an eye for an eye?

Or this is my body?

Or Jesus wept?

I should quit now.

Yes, we have free speech...and a good thing, too, as then we know what the a$$holes are REALLY thinking.

:

 

[mahdokht]

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[InfoisPower]

And here is yet another individual speaking from an alternative orifice Let's give a raspberry to Mahathir Mohamad uke,

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...islamic_summit

In a blistering attack on Israel and hectoring criticism of the Islamic world, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad told a summit of Muslim leaders Thursday that Jews ruled the world and recruited others "to fight and die for them."

"The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million, but today the Jews rule the world by proxy," Mahathir, a widely respected statesman in Asia and the developing world, said in a speech as he became chairman of the 57-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference.

"They get others to fight and die for them," he said.

 

[Marlena]

Quote:

Boykin told one audience, "I knew my god was bigger than his. I knew that my god was a real god and his was an idol."

Substitute "penis" for "god" and the genuine meaning of the quote will become evident.

Maybe we should see which of them can pee farther, or which one actually has the biggest schlong, make the loser buy the other a drink of his choice (alcoholic or non-), and call it quits there.

 

[Marg of Arabia]

:LOL

Quote:

Substitute "penis" for "god" and the genuine meaning of the quote will become evident.

 

[Bluegrass]

Good one, Marlena!

 

[Meiri]

Quote:

Boykin told one audience, "I knew my god was bigger than his. I knew that my god was a real god and his was an idol."

But didn't we lose in Somalia????

Whether you use God or penis in that quote, seems to me he was proven wrong.:LOL

 

[DaryLLL]

In Buddhism and Hinduism, the penis is honored as the lingam, as a symbol of the male creative force. You may see sculptures of them along the road or in temples.

So, perhaps the penis really is an idol?

Ok now my head hurts.

 

[simple gifts]

I'm Jewish, I want in on this ruling the world stuff.

Why the heck didn't the rabbi or somebody tell me we rule the world?

: I'd have dressed better.

 

[Marlena]

Check it out:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/21/in...1CND-RUMS.html

Quote:

The general issued a written apology for his statements earlier this month, saying he was "neither a zealot nor an extremist, only a soldier who has an abiding faith." But the fact that Mr. Bush and Mr. Rumsfeld have not distanced themselves from his remarks has angered many critics in Washington and elsewhere. At his last news conference, Mr. Rumsfeld declined to criticize General Boykin, but reminded reporters that President Bush has said that "the war on terrorism is not a war against religion" but a battle against people "who have tried to hijack a religion." Today, Mr. Rumsfeld again refused to criticize General Boykin. "I have said what my convictions and beliefs are, and they are those that have been expressed by the president," Mr. Rumsfeld said. "And to the extent the are in conflict with the views of anyone in this department, then they are in conflict with the views of anyone in this department."

 

[TiredX2]

Quote:

"I have said what my convictions and beliefs are, and they are those that have been expressed by the president," Mr. Rumsfeld said. "And to the extent the are in conflict with the views of anyone in this department, then they are in conflict with the views of anyone in this department."

Huh, what does this even mean

:

Kay

 

[MotherNatrsSon]

How few troops does the US have over there? How many Muslims are there in that area? I wouldn't want to be a US soldier in that area for millions of dollars right now. With comments like that their lives are not worth spit.

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