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using carseat after it's been in an accident

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A little girl (8 mo) I babysit was in an accident with her mom several months ago. They described it as slightly serious, but said there couldn't have been any damage done to the bucket carseat and kept using it. They are getting a new one because she's outgrowing it, so that's really a moot point. But for future reference, how do you know if it's safe to keep using after an accident, if ever?
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Well in Canada you have to replace a seat that has been in any accident, even a minor one. The insurance usually covers it. We were in an accident 2 weeks ago and had to replace our car seat that was only a month old (at least I could get a better seat).
If it's any brand other than Britax or Sunshine Kids, always replace no matter how minor the accident. If it's one of those two brands, they go by the NHTSA guidelines.
Always replace carseats after accidents, no matter how minor, and no matter which brand, and no matter if there where kids in it or not. That's the guidelines here. The seats can get invisible damage, also inside. There's no way to know. And you don't take a chance with your kids life. Car seats are almost like bike helmets, designed to take one good hit, and then replace it.
The insurance covers it too.
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Always replace carseats after accidents, no matter how minor, and no matter which brand, and no matter if there where kids in it or not. That's the guidelines here. The seats can get invisible damage, also inside. There's no way to know. And you don't take a chance with your kids life. Car seats are almost like bike helmets, designed to take one good hit, and then replace it.
The insurance covers it too.
In the US? Car insurance would cover it?
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In the US? Car insurance would cover it?
Not the US, we're in Scandinavia now. Here it gets covered. I have no idea about the States.
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In the US? Car insurance would cover it?
Disclaimer that all policies and all states are different, but in general...

It depends. If the other driver is at fault, her or his insurance should cover a reasonable replacement (equivalent to the seats that were crashed). If you were at fault or if it was a no-fault accident, it depends on your coverage. If you only carry liability insurance, replacement carseats will not be covered. If you carry collision and/or comprehensive coverage, a reasonable replacement should be covered, subject to deductible.
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Disclaimer that all policies and all states are different, but in general...

It depends. If the other driver is at fault, her or his insurance should cover a reasonable replacement (equivalent to the seats that were crashed). If you were at fault or if it was a no-fault accident, it depends on your coverage. If you only carry liability insurance, replacement carseats will not be covered. If you carry collision and/or comprehensive coverage, a reasonable replacement should be covered, subject to deductible.
Well their car was totaled, so the deductible would have been satisfied. Since they're going to get a new car seat this weekend, I'll tell them to submit the receipt to their ins co (State Farm). Couldn't hurt, right? Thanks!
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Well in Canada you have to replace a seat that has been in any accident, even a minor one.
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I would not trust the car seat after an accident
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nak

nhtsa guidelines---for britax, sk...

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Minor crashes are those that meet ALL of the following criteria:
The vehicle was able to be driven away from the crash site;
The vehicle door nearest the safety seat was undamaged;
There were no injuries to any of the vehicle occupants;
The air bags (if present) did not deploy; AND
There is no visible damage to the safety seat
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nak

nhtsa guidelines---for britax, sk...
Thank you for posting that. I hear of so many people who run over a curb and everyone is on them to replace their carseat.
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Those guidelines only apply to Britax and Sunshine Kids. All other manufacturers do not believe their carseats are safe to reuse after a crash.
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Those guidelines only apply to Britax and Sunshine Kids. All other manufacturers do not believe their carseats are safe to reuse after a crash.
Yes! I had my van parked in the driveway, and installed were 2 Marathons, a Graco Nautilus, and an EFTA. DH was parked on the sideyard and backed his truck into my van, denting the vender and pushing it about 12" sideways in the dirt. Graco and Evenflo wanted me to replace the seats because they could no longer guarantee the seats would perform properly
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Graco and Evenflo wanted me to replace the seats because they could no longer guarantee the seats would perform properly
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I understand that they are trying to error on the side of caution, but really?
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I asked DH about this since its his field of expertise, he is a Traffic Accident Investigator. He said after any major accident replace the car seat no matter what brand and after a minor accident either replace or take somewhere to have someone certified to look at it and properly reinstall it. Also he added never buy used unless from someone that you know was not in an accident with it and also every so often to remove the car seat and check all the components and straps for cracks, frays, or tears.
I disagree. I'm a certified Child Passenger Safety Technician. I'm very very good at what I do. But I do not have xray vision and cannot see inside plastic shells to determine if there are stress marks or fractures inside the seat. I would never okay *any* seat for reuse after a crash -- if it was a Britax or Sunshine Kids seat that met the criteria for reuse I would explain that, but I will not personally guarantee the safety of the seat.
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I disagree. I'm a certified Child Passenger Safety Technician. I'm very very good at what I do. But I do not have xray vision and cannot see inside plastic shells to determine if there are stress marks or fractures inside the seat. I would never okay *any* seat for reuse after a crash -- if it was a Britax or Sunshine Kids seat that met the criteria for reuse I would explain that, but I will not personally guarantee the safety of the seat.
Yeah, no kidding, nobody is going to be able to look at it and tell you if it's safe. I've had people bring crashed seats to me to find out if they were safe and I'll just tell them to go by the manual, and replace.
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so, (you CPSTs) if your husband backed into your car you would replace your carseats?
Depends. If he bumped my car and barely dented the bumper, no. If he rolled down our (very steep) driveway and SMASHED into my car, yes. My personal criteria is if the impact would be enough to lock my seatbelt, I consider it a "crash" instead of a bumper bump, and I would replace seats that cannot withstand more than one crash.
My dh had a string of bad luck in 1997 and our insurance company, and some one elses both payed for 3 new seats without any problems. The insurance companies do not want to be responsible for refusing to replace seats that then go on to not protect kids. In the grand scheme of things even the expensive seats are a small price for them to pay.
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