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So I just got some Carlsons CLO for DS. I'm hoping it will clear up the bumps on his thighs and arms.<br><br>
Thing is, I've heard that CLO is for use in the winter....<br><br>
Should I not be giving him CLO this time of year? Will he be getting too much of something? Vit D?
 

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I know they've discussed this over in the Nutrition (and/or Trad. Foods) forum, so if someone here doesn't have an immediate answer, I bet a search or X-post there will give you an answer.<br><br>
(I'd answer myself, but I don't remember what they said specifically, so I'd hate to give incorrect advice, sorry!)<br><br>
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CLO is especially useful in the winter because we don't get as much sunlight, which is needed for our bodies to produce vt. D. However, at normal dosage levels it should be fine to take CLO in the summer.<br><br>
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<a href="http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp" target="_blank">http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp</a><br><br>
If the CLO just contains naturally occurring vitamin D, I wouldn't worry about how much you give. If it is purified and then re-fortified with synthetic vitamin D, I would just make sure you're giving the equivalent of, say, no more than 1,000 IU or so every day. That gives some room for extra D intake from fortified food without worrying about hitting the recommended upper intake level.<br><br>
I have a feeling Carlson's is fortified with D, but I can't remember.<br><br>
ETA: I am typically cautious with supplements, so I personally would probably limit the CLO to around 400 IUs of vit D or so, though the NIH seem to think more would be okay. If it's the EFAs you're interested in having your dc take, you can use other kinds of fish oil that don't contain so much vit D OR use a non-fortified CLO brand like Nordic Naturals, which contains relatively little vit D.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have a feeling Carlson's is fortified with D, but I can't remember.<br><br>
ETA: I am typically cautious with supplements, so I personally would probably limit the CLO to around 400 IUs of vit D or so, though the NIH seem to think more would be okay. If it's the EFAs you're interested in having your dc take, you can use other kinds of fish oil that don't contain so much vit D OR use a non-fortified CLO brand like Nordic Naturals, which contains relatively little vit D.</div>
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Nordic uses synthetic D also, at least in the Arctic-D CLO. I switched my family from Nordic to Blue Ice early last winter & immediately, DD2's eczema disappeared. We always take CLO in the summer.
 

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It's the vitamin A I'm after. I've heard that keratosis pilaris is thought beinifit from vitamin A.<br><br>
The CLO I'm using says to give him 1/4 teaspoon a day, so that would only be 100 IU of vit D, so look slike it'll be ok as far as that goes.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Nordic uses synthetic D also, at least in the Arctic-D CLO. I switched my family from Nordic to Blue Ice early last winter & immediately, DD2's eczema disappeared. We always take CLO in the summer.</div>
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I have NN Arctic CLO and it has only 1-20IU of vit D per tsp. The variation means it's naturally occurring - if it's fortified, it typically has a specific IU number, often 200 or 400 per serving, as the Carlson's does.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have NN Arctic CLO and it has only 1-20IU of vit D per tsp. The variation means it's naturally occurring - if it's fortified, it typically has a specific IU number, often 200 or 400 per serving, as the Carlson's does.</div>
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Does fortified always mean synthetic?<br><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Does fortified always mean synthetic?<br><br>
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Not necessarily, but it may. I think in the case of Carlson's it does. I <i>think</i> (but maybe someone can correct me) that the purification process removes vitamins and they can be added back in either natural or synthetic form. I believe that Blue Ice and maybe others of the "high vitamin" CLOs use natural D.
 

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Just wanted to say that I get these bumps (keratosis) off and on, & now after the birth of my second child, they are worse than ever (heard that can happen). But I have also gone off my CLO that I had been taking throughout pregnancy and through the winter. Replaced it with plain fish oil. CLO always gets rid of the bumps in my case - so I do believe it's a vit A deficiency. Carlson's does not add synthetic A or D - they only remove them during processing and put them back in later. (I asked them). I was taking Dr. Ron's Blue Ice - a higher vit. CLO, but didn't get as good results for some reason. Maybe due to my higher nutritional needs while nursing?? Anyway, I am a bumpy mess now, arms and legs, and plan to get back on Carlson's. Typically, the bumps clear within 2 weeks or less on CLO, so do try it. I think the dose is 1 tsp. per 50 lbs of body weight with Carlson's. I also asked Sally Fallon, author of Nourishing Traditions, about the safety of CLO in summer. She said you should only avoid CLO if you are a lifeguard.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Not necessarily, but it may. I think in the case of Carlson's it does. I <i>think</i> (but maybe someone can correct me) that the purification process removes vitamins and they can be added back in either natural or synthetic form. I believe that Blue Ice and maybe others of the "high vitamin" CLOs use natural D.</div>
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How do you know if they add synthetic D? E-mail or call the company directly?<br><br>
Thanks!<br>
-Angie
 
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