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I know that kids who are shedding live viruses from their vaccines can be a threat to kids who are unvaxed. How big of a threat is it? How long do viruses shed after vaccines? A friend's twin sons got their 12 month vaccines last week. We are scheduled to attend their birthday party this saturday. Talia has had two DTaP shots and nothing else. Anika is totally unvaxed. Another friend's 14 month old daughter is also unvaxed. Should we be concerned?<br><br>
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I think it depends on how afraid you are of the following diseases:<br><br>
Measles<br>
Mumps<br>
Rubella<br>
Chickenpox<br><br>
Those are the only vaccines in the current childhood schedule that shed. Personally, I'm not at all afraid of any of them - although I'd be concerned if my DD caught 3 or 4 of them at once. Realistically though, you didn't worry about it when they were tiny babies, did you? I mean, did you question the mother of every toddler you came into contact with about what recent vaccines they had? I doubt it, because it never occurred to you, since your babies were too young to have had those shots yet. It's only on your mind now because they are "supposed" to have been vaccinated already. And yet, even when they were super tiny, too young to have been vaxxed and w/totally immature immune systems, they never caught anything from all the recently vaxxed toddlers they were around. And to think, you could have been freaking out all along if you had only thought about it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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This is a hard one to answer. I've always assumed that people who chose not to vaccinate aren't concerned about what either vaccinated or unvaccinated people are excreting, in the way of viruses or bacteria.<br><br>
I've always assumed that people who vaccinate do so because they believe that their kids will then be protected against the dirty unvaccinated kids.<br><br>
The reason its hard to answer is that I can't see where it is you are coming from, or what your concern really is.<br><br>
The length of time a virus sheds from someone who has had a vaccine, depends on their immune system. Immunosuppressed people excrete viruses for a much longer time, and excrete huge quantitites of many different types of viruses.<br><br>
healthy people excrete for shorter period.<br><br>
But you meet people every day who are excreting hundreds of viruses and bacteria into the environment anyway, so why would a vaccine bother you?<br><br>
If you are in contact with a cancer patient treated with monoclonal antibodies those people will not only be exreting into the environment, a very high load of endogenous viruses, they will also excrete animal viruses which the monoclonal antibody products have the potential to contain as well.<br><br>
We live in a pathogen soup. We just don't sit there and line them all up in rows and identify them every minute of the day.
 

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I think that the choice to not vaccinate should include the acceptance of whatever natural vulnerability that your children may have. I think it means accepting normal risk of exposure.<br><br>
That doesn't mean it is a bad choice to limit that exposure when you have the ability to do so (as you do now) and your judgment suggests that it is a good time for such a limitation, but I think your children will be exposed to such risk many, many times without your knowledge. So you basically need to find peace with the risks of being unvaccinated in our society as part of the decision not to vax. I think the risks are acceptable.
 
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