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<p>I was thinking that vaccines in different companies may be cultured in different ways and made differently.  And from what I read elsewhere, it sounds like many countries still have the seperate M M R shots available.</p>
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<p>We will most likely be doing some world travel during my children's childhood and teenage years.  We're going to Japan in the fall and in a few years parts of Europe and who knows where else later on (dh is fascinated with travel).  Right now we don't vaccinate, but there are some vaccines I would consider if my kids hit adolescence with titers showing they do not have immunity.</p>
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<p>I'm wondering if there is a good source to research vaccines available in other countries, who makes them, etc.?  I figure it's something to consider if we choose vaccines later if "safer" ones are available in other countries we might be visiting, or if ones I don't object to morally (i.e. the rubella vaccine in Japan is not cultured using a cell line from an aborted fetus like it is here).</p>
 

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<p>Hm I don;t have links, but the rubella one in Japan is cultured in rabbit cells and is the only one world-wide using moral ingredients. In Europe you can get your hands on monovalent measles (sanofi merieux), rubella (but that is the bad one) and in GB they still have a single mumpsvax I was told (I know that is not available in Germany). All chickenpox ones are morally questionable. The Robert Koch Institut lists all approved vaccines in Germany. I would think that each country's "CDC" lists all approved ones. :) I can tell you that Germany also has monovalent Tetanus shots available and DT shots for kids 7 and older if you don't want pertussis.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>miriam</strong> <a href="/community/t/1346179/vaccines-in-other-countries#post_16892341"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><p>My unvaxed children have been to Japan, Thailand, and all of Europe.  </p>
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<p>My BIL has been to India and Nepal; he was required by the UN to get the yellow fever vax for the job. </p>
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<p>Just be careful of the water and you should be fine.</p>
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<p>Europe:  <a href="http://ecdc.europa.eu/EN/ACTIVITIES/SURVEILLANCE/EUVAC/Pages/index.aspx" target="_blank">http://ecdc.europa.eu/EN/ACTIVITIES/SURVEILLANCE/EUVAC/Pages/index.aspx</a></p>
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I'm not actually worried about traveling with unvaxed kids, I'm more wondering if there are better vaxes out there than there are in the states.</p>
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<p>Well , in Germany ( my home country ) , you can get the single vaccines , if you choose to . Like only tetanus , only polio , etc . </p>
<p>Ingredient wise , I am not too sure exactly , what´s in them , but the standard of safety is very high in Germany , so approved vaccines are quite safe  </p>
 

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<p>I'm not sure of the details in the UK, but I assume you can find them on the NHS website (<a href="http://www.nhs.uk/planners/vaccinations/pages/landing.aspx" target="_blank">Vaccination page</a>). Main difference in my experience (moved with 18 month old from US to UK, and had a second here in UK) is that kids here get a Meningitus vaccine not commonly offered in the US, and there is no standard way to get chicken pox vaccine. </p>
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<p>Our standard of safety is also very high, and there are different pressures on a social medicine system than the US insurance/profit based system. So the vaccine choices offered by the NHS I feel sure are not to do with giving profit to "big-pharma" but may have more of a wider social benefit cost-benefit analysis to them than worrying about giving individuals a lot of choice. </p>
 
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