[kattykay]

Talk of the Nation Science Friday is going to talk about vaccines tomorrow. The only guest is an infection disease dr. They mention the "measles outbreak" in the promo. I would love for moms to call in and give him an earful.<br><br><a href="http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200808292" target="_blank">http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200808292</a>

 

[Ophelia]

Wow, this ought to be a good one!<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Guests<br>
Paul A. Offit<br>
Chief, Division of Infectious Diseases<br>
The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia<br>
Professor of Pediatrics, Maurice R. Hilleman Professor of Vaccinology<br>
The University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, Division of Infectious Diseases<br>
Author, "Autism's False Prophets: Bad Science, Risky Medicine and the Search for a Cure"<br>
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I don't know if I will be home at the time though, to listen to it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> I wonder if they will make it available later?

 

[Juvysen]

I was just coming to post this <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">

 

[mamadelbosque]

Hmm. I'm sure I'll hear it (I LOVE NPR and listen to it basicly all. day. long. Just ask my DH!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">... But god, the only guest is paul f'ing offit? Ugh.

 

[applejuice]

Yes, he wrote <span style="text-decoration:underline;">The Cutter Incident</span>, about a lawsuit against the manufacturers of a polio vaccine that caused a case of paralytic polio in the early 1950s. The case that made Melvin Belli, Esquire famous, and is stilll in favor of vaccines.<br><br><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=motheringhud-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FCutter-Incident-Americas-Vaccine-Growing%2Fdp%2F0300126050%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_sr_1%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1219966647%26sr%3D8-1" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Cutter-Inciden...9966647&sr=8-1</a>

 

[ASusan]

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>mamadelbosque</strong> <a href="/community/forum/post/12057903"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">Hmm. I'm sure I'll hear it (I LOVE NPR and listen to it basicly all. day. long. Just ask my DH!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">... But god, the only guest is paul f'ing offit? Ugh.</div>
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Yeah, that

 

[mamadelbosque]

I know who paul offit is apple, and I'm just apalled if thats really the ONLY guest that TOTN could come up with to talk about vaccines. He's pharma/cdc's biggest pro-vaccine spokesperson, ever. Bout as biased as you can freaking get...

 

[Juvysen]

Well, if people call in with actual studies they ca point to, maybe it'll help?

 

[LeslieB]

I was going to post about this too!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
Yeah, great. Offit. Can't wait to hear this one.

 

[PiesandAbrosmama]

listening right now and a mama is on there doing awesome!!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">

 

[ASusan]

I'm rooting her on, too! Go Chantelle...

 

[Juvysen]

Meh... I missed most of it<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
Did they talk about aluminum at all?

 

[audsma]

Oh! He was such a jerk! I was livid listening to him, and really upset at how complicit with the "expert" Ira Flato sounded. Chantelle did a fantastic job, but the note they left it on is so degrading to those of us who choose not to vax or selectively or delay vax!<br><br>
Too bad DH "believes it" if it is on NPR, especially Science Friday. But they usually do much much better with multiple perspectives, but I don't know whether Sci Fri does it the same way.

 

[PiesandAbrosmama]

I also wrote in the comments section on the show as to why the expert panel only had one opinion? I tried to get through to call to ask how many of the said measles cases are vaxed to non vaxed cases. Hmmm that would be interesting.

 

[ASusan]

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Too bad DH "believes it" if it is on NPR, especially Science Friday. But <b>they usually do much much better with multiple perspectives</b>, but I don't know whether Sci Fri does it the same way.</div>
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Yes, this. Even Sci Fri usually seems more balanced. Maybe because I know more about this issue?<br><br>
But you'd think with such a controvertial issue, they would have found someone with another perspective. I think they were toeing the gov't line.

 

[Juvysen]

I agree <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> Of course... being that they're government funded, I guess that makes sense...

 

[AuntNi]

Ugh, that was awful! Chantelle did great! But they snickered at her - I was physically cringing.

 

[loveyourohana]

I suppose when all else fails... snicker and pretend that the one with knowlege doesn't know what they are talkign about. I think mocking and snickering and creating that vibe is contagious.<br><br>
Catch my drift.

 

[Chantele]

Glad to know I didn't disappoint you ladies!<br><br>
I was sweating bullets and sitting at work while speaking on the subject no less!!! I wanted to say so much more..including only 63 children who had the measles virus were not vaccinated, but there was no time. AND they hung up on me..so unfortunately yes, my last remark was "I don't believe that!"<br><br>
I've done enough of my own research to know what I know...Yes, Dr. Offit, you may not get paid to actually speak out on the vaccines (well, we just haven't found the paper trail yet) but regardless, you still get paid the big bucks by pharma!!<br><br>
Here's a link if you missed it..<br><br><br><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94110457" target="_blank">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=94110457</a>

 

[Juvysen]

lol... did you sign up on mdc just because of this?<br><br>
Awesome job today<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/Welcome.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="welcome"><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rocks.jpg" style="border:0px solid;" title="mdc rocks">