[mother nurture]

I decided not to put this in the vax forum b/c I am specifically looking for NC info. We live in NC and have stopped vaxing dd. I know that NC only has religious exemptions. Someone recently told me that I cannot claim a religious exemption if I have had some vaxing done, but stopped. Is this true? Can someone post a site that I can find more info on. Thanks and peace,
Beth

 

[Gunter]

Someone recently told me that I cannot claim a religious exemption if I have had some vaxing done, but stopped. Is this true?/QUOTE]

Hi Beth,

I don't know all the details behind vaxing. But if you do have to claim a religious exemption, couldn't you just say you recently "became religious" or "converted" or something. That would explain why you didn't vax from the beginning.

Sorry if this sounds really silly...just trying to help.

 

[mother nurture]

That's kind of what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure if that would work. Hopefully some other mamas will post w/ some more info.

 

[stafl]

in the vax board somewhere, I found a link to a website that lists all the state's vax laws and exemptions.

I think this might be it:
http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm

In TN it has to be a religious or medical exemption, but I know most people claim religious exemption regardless. You just fill out the form. I even know one person who just struck through the word religious, and wrote in "philosophical" instead because they didn't feel comfortable with the wording (and lieing when their religion has nothing to do with their objection to vaccinating their children).

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Someone recently told me that I cannot claim a religious exemption if I have had some vaxing done, but stopped. Is this true?

I don't believe that is true. I know many many people IRL who have done just that. If you don't turn in the vax report, how would the state ever know if your kids have ever had any shots, or just not all of them?

 

[Lilcrunchie]

Don't quote me on this, but I think it is more of an issue with those who selectively vax yet are continuing *to* vax, as it is harder to explain a religious exemption that way. In those cases, I think most people who are more knowledgable than I tend to recommend that you claim a religious exemption and never provide the info that your child is partially vaxed...only you and your doc would know. So if your child attends public school, you would just act as if s/he has no vaxes at all. The only problem with that is if your child is unvaxed and there would be an outbreak of measles or whatever, they can say your child can't attend school because they aren't vaxed (even if they were vaxed) if you claim they never had *any* shots but they are in fact partially vaxed (wow, does that make sense or is it just way too confusing the way I'm describing it??

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If you *did* vax in the past but do not intend to continue, I don't see how it would be problematic to file a religious exemption. You "converted" to a new mindset and you are no longer vaxing. I don't think it is much of an issue at all to do that. DS had his two month vaxes and that's it. We never did any more and he's 19 months.

I'm not an expert so you'll want to run this buy someone maybe in the vax forum, but they are the impressions I've been left with from my reading.

 

[pinky]

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Originally Posted by stafl In TN it has to be a religious or medical exemption, but I know most people claim religious exemption regardless. You just fill out the form. I even know one person who just struck through the word religious, and wrote in "philosophical" instead because they didn't feel comfortable with the wording (and lieing when their religion has nothing to do with their objection to vaccinating their children).

Just FYI, in NC, the law specifically does NOT allow for philosophical exemptions, only religious. I struggle with this b/c I feel it is untruthful to say that I have declined vaxes for religious reasons. Sorry, getting a little OT here...

 

[Drewsmom]

I learned a lot of info re: vax and "religious" exemptions on the vax thread. Be sure to look up the definition of "religious", it's not what you would think it would be and you can use it even if you're not christian scientist or other official religion that does not use medicine. It has more to do with your deep convictions.

I am in the same boat with my oldest as he is mostly vaxed (we've done delayed, individual vaxes) but he's 4 1/2 and I'm debating just finishing them to not have the hassle as i've always had the underlying feeling that he would be fine a long as I spaced them very far apart. However with my youngest we have not done any at all (we've had a different experience healthwise with him and I have had very specific impressions to not vax and I most likely won't until a long time). We may be moving to NC soon, but it sounds like VA has the same laws. So far my experience has been just fine. The schools even have religious exemption on the bottom of the school physical form for the doctor to OK off on and it is done very frequently.

 

[sun-shine01]

Im in NC and use the exemption with no problems . DD did receive her 2 month vacs and none since. Nobody knows this because when they ask for her shot record I just provide the exemption form.

 

[JesseMomme]

I live in NC too and although I get annoying letters (and the other day , a phone call) from my county health dept talking about how "delinquent" I am (ooh I'm a petty criminal lol) in the kids getting their shots, I got ds 2 into school with a notarized letter claiming religious convictions. It's technically a lie, but I'd rather lie than do something I don't feel is right by my kids.

 

[WuWei]

It's not complicated. Print and complete this form; and provide copies to whomever it may concern. Keep original at home, on-file.

We are a completely non-vaccinating family. If one chooses to intentionally, selectively vaccinate, my understandig is that it is legally inauthentic to file a "religious exemption". However, it is illegal to complete a religious exemption based upon philosophical objection in NC.

Pat

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North Carolina Immunization Law
Religious Exemption
North Carolina General Statute 130A-157

SECTION 130A-157. Religious Exemption - If the bona fide religious beliefs of an adult or the parent, guardian or person in loco parentis of a child are contrary to the immunization requirements contained in this Part [Chapter 130A, Article 6, Part B], the adult or the child shall be exempt from the requirements. Upon submission of a written statement of the bona fide religious beliefs and opposition to the immunization requirements, the person may attend the college, university, school or facility without presenting a certificate of immunization.

Pursuant to the aforementioned N.C.G.S. 130A-157, I, the undersigned, declare the immunization requirements as set for the in N.C.G.S. 130A-157 contrary to my bona fide religious beliefs and request, as permitted by the law, an exemption from the immunization requirements of your institution for myself or the undersigned minor child under my legal care or guardianship.

NAME __________________________________________________ __

SIGNATURE _______________________________________________

ADDRESS _________________________________________________

_________________________________________________

PHONE_________________________________________________

DATE_________________________________________________

____ Check here if declaring exemption for a minor child and enter child's name below

MINOR CHILD'S NAME _______________________________________________

MINOR CHILD'S NAME _______________________________________________

 

[mother nurture]

Hmmm...so does anyone have a link for what qualifies as a religious exemption in NC? We aren't Christian, but I feel as though our religious and spiritual beliefs would fall under this. Thanks...

 

[WuWei]

I goggled "NC 130a-157 Religious Exemption" and found some conflicting opinions. I think you might evaluate the issue directly by reading through several of the links that come up. I don't want to influence your judgement by specifying which links to read.

Pat

 

[hcsl]

NC also allows for medical exemptions.

You can always file a religious exemption form and not list any of the vaxes your child has had.

No one can ask you what your religion is since that could be a basis for discrimination.

 

[Drewsmom]

Wow, THANK YOU so much for that form.

Jessemom do you mind me asking what part of NC you live in? I've been so spoiled here in NoVA to not have problems but now that we know for sure we are moving to Charlotte, I am a little nervous. It's not like with ds#1 where I delayed vax and felt pretty OK about it knowing that he would be fine. I sincerely believe that ds#2 would be seriously affected (he had very poor health his first year of life and tons of antibiotics that ripped up his gut in addition to some other things and research that I've read since...I *won't* vaccinate him).

 

[Marimami]

This is interesting. We are selectively delaying/avoiding vaccines. We adopted our daughter at 8 months and she had already had a lot of the vaccines. We have a wonderful pediatrician who is working with us to choose a plan we are comfortable with. We are not comfortable not vaccinating completely because we travel internationally quite a bit. My science side and my crunchy side battle this discussion internally often.

In any case, he told us that it's only an issue once they become school-aged, and since we are planning to homeschool, that no one will ever question it in our case.

Holli

 

[mother nurture]

Thanks for all of the information, mamas. I got my form and also found a great website...www.vaccines.bizland.com/intro.html

Very informative!

Marimami-Check-out the vax thread. My dd is not going to school for a few years, if we actually choose not to homeschool. But, I want to have an exemption form either way. I'm always paranoid about CPS and seeing her being non-vaxed as neglect. I've read some crazy stories