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i'm looking for advice and re-assurance....so if you're going to flame me....please just don't respond......i also want the honest truth.....if your VBAC was great but left you "altered" down there please share as well!<br><br>
i had i guess what was an elective c-section with my first......she as breech and despite all efforts she was not moving into a birthable position.<br><br>
with this one i am concidering vbac but i must admit im very very scared i'll mess things up down there.....i already have a bladder problem that causes me lots of urethra pain....i dont know if i could handle crotch pain on top of that! I really would just die of pain if i vbac'ed and caused more damage down there......my condition is VERY painful!<br><br>
my OB is on board with letting my try VBAC i am just very very nervous i will do more damage.....so please tell me your good and bad stories....i want the truth......but no flaming please
 

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I just had a vbac in December. I will admit that my tear is taking me longer to heal than I expected. I had a first degree tear with two stitches. I am not in pain at all but I still have some slight bleeding in that area. But to be honest I think most is my fault. TMI but I have hemorrhoids from the pushing and when I am a slight bit constipated it pushes on the tear and it bleeds a bit. If I was better about eating a more balanced diet right now I dont think that would happen.<br>
So what I am just saying is my "recovery" has been different than I expected but not bad if that makes sense. And I don't expect to have any long term affects at all. For me, even though my recovery was different than I expected it was still SO much better than having a c/s for many reasons.<br><br>
Also, I think I had false expectations of how I would feel. I expected to feel 100% better in a few days. And that was MY fault for thinking that. I had a long labor and had a baby so I shouldn't have expected to feel better so soon. I think our society puts so much pressure on us to be back to "normal" way too soon.<br><br>
So, I went off on a tangent there but I hope my info helped. I loved my vbac and would do it again in a heartbeat!!!
 

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No flames here! I had an unscheduled c-sec with my first (heart beat went down less than half of what it was supposed to and never came back up, her cord had 2 knots in it) and a VBAC with my 2nd. I was worried too about tears and how I would heal. I had a 2nd degree tear that didn't heal properly and had to be "redone" (they shaved the scar tissue away and used silver nitrate I think?). My doc was very gentle and reassuring to me, I was grateful to her and I healed up fine. The human body is just amazing with what it can do<br><br>
The fact that your doc supports a VBAC should be reassuring to you that your body can handle it. Ultimately the decision is up to you and what you feel comfortable with. I do recommend (with your docs permission, I don't know your med history) doing kegals, yoga (adapted for preg) and regular exercise. There are lots of preg exercise books/DVDs/videos out there to get you started. I used to have a problem peeing when I sneezed/laughed/coughed and the kegals greatly, greatly improved it<br><br>
HTH <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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My first was a scheduled c/s because of breech too. I just attempted a VBAC in November and failed. I had 24 hrs of labor with little progress and still ended up with a c/s in the end. I'll be honest, in the OR I told myself that I should have scheduled a damn c/s to begin with...but that was me talking after hours of horrific pain and exhaustion too.<br><br>
I really don't regret trying at all. I had a horrible labor at home and I don't ever want to go through it again but I'm glad I tried and that I now know what it feels like. It was a profound experience, laboring at home with my loved ones, and it made my daughter that much more special when she was born. I felt like we had been on quite a journey together.<br><br>
So I encourage anybody to try. Just be realistic. There is always a possibility that you could end up with a c/s and that things don't go as you had them planned. I think if you set yourself up for that in the beginning you won't be horribly disappointed if things go different than you had hoped.<br><br>
I don't know much about your specific medical problems but I would imagine that the labor pain is going to be a lot worse than any discomfort in your vaginal area. At least that is what I hear and having experienced the labor at least I can certainly believe it.<br><br>
Good luck with your decision!
 

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realistically, the pain from a CS is WAY WORSe than the pain from a vaginal (the recovery that is). I had two CS's and a VBA2C in December. The VBAC was great, although a lot of work! My suggestion is to check out <a href="http://www.ican-online.org" target="_blank">www.ican-online.org</a> for great info. I also found a lot of support there are well.<br><br>
I'm glad that your OB is onboard. Not many are. if you are really hoping for a VBAC, do as much research as you can and talk to your OB thoroughly to make sure that he or she has the same ideas that you do about how your birth should be or should not be.<br><br>
Good luck, mama!
 

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I don't know, I find that to be pretty subjective. Now I still haven't had a vaginal delivery but I can tell you that my 24 hr labor made my second c/s recovery a breeze. There wasn't any pain I couldn't handle after that. I was breezing around my hospital room within a day. I have also heard other women who had VBAC's say that the c/s was easier. It truly depends on the person. I'm not saying this is any way to encourage you to have a c/s. I just wanted to chime in that it isn't entirely true that recovery from VBAC or pain is easier than c/s.
 

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Respectfully, that was not my experience at all. As soon as I got my staples out after my c-sections I was good to go. It took me much longer to recover from my VBA2C.<br><br>
That said, obviously everyone's experience will be different.<br><br>
I tore pretty badly with my v-birth baby. I had a very long tear on my left outer labium that required a goodly number of stitches to close, and another I am not certain the location of (I did <i>not</i> take a mirror and look, thanyouverymuch) that did not get stitched. (They offered; I declined.) Recovery was a bitch--it stung and hurt like hell, and the Dermoplas was my best friend--but fifteen months later the only way you can tell is that there is a very thin scar down there. There was <i>no</i> trauma to my bladder, urethra, or vagina or perineum or anything of the sort. That sort of injury tends to be pretty unique to c-sections, if memory serves.<br><br>
And, I should hope, I don't need to tell you that even the repair of a 4th-degree tear is going to be <i>much</i> less than the closing that comes with major abdominal surgery.
 

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IME recovering from my vbac with a 2nd degree episiotomy as well as several more stitches to remove a septum from inside my vagina was waaayyy easier than the recovery from my c-section with dd. With the c-section, every move I made hurt<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> With the vbac, I was just extra careful sitting down. Peeing didn't hurt at all, since the stitches were further down in the perineum. Make sure you take a stool softener for the first few days.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">realistically, the pain from a CS is WAY WORSe than the pain from a vaginal (the recovery that is). I had two CS's and a VBA2C in December. The VBAC was great, although a lot of work! My suggestion is to check out <a href="http://www.ican-online.org" target="_blank">www.ican-online.org</a> for great info. I also found a lot of support there are well.<br><br>
I'm glad that your OB is onboard. Not many are. if you are really hoping for a VBAC, do as much research as you can and talk to your OB thoroughly to make sure that he or she has the same ideas that you do about how your birth should be or should not be.<br><br>
Good luck, mama!</div>
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i totally agree with this
 

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I just HBACed a 10 lb, 1 oz baby boy on January 24th and I didn't tear or even get any skidmarks or hemhoroids (sp?) or anything at all! I have not had any problems with leaking urine, losing control of bowels, etc - none of the "what ifs" that I've heard horror stories of...<br><br>
ICAN *is* wonderful, I totally agree with the PPs about that! Definitely get on the list and the website and learn all you can!<br><br>
VBAC is so empowering!
 

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My VBAC actually go tme so much more comfortable with my vagina and labia and the way they look and work. I guess I had this idea that mine should look like playboy... silly girl!<br><br>
I had a small tear and two stitches, but I am so proud of my body now, and honestly, my bladder issues are way less than before my VBAC. I've always been a little leaky, but now since I have understanding of my woman-bits (tee hee!) I actually have <i>stronger muscles!</i><br><br>
Yay Kegels!
 

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Oh I forgot to say that I <i>did</i> get an infection with my VBAC. I had a Foley Catheter induction and maybe that is why I ended up with a (resistant) Strep-A infection in my vagina. That's the strep that causes strep throat and septicemia, I'm pretty sure. It was a bit itchy and there was watery discharge that my midwife noticed at my 6-week physical. It took two rounds of abx to get rid of. I had no infections with my c/s.
 

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I fall in the "my habc ws a breez recovery" camp. My section was pretty standard really, but you couldn't have convinced me at the time.... it hurt like hell. I can only imagine dealing with secondary infections & whatnot.<br><br>
For any birth, good diet makes everything esier. Don't fall into the carb loading at the end that stacks up in you & baby without as much benefit. Some fats (good oils type of thing) help keep your skin more elastic. Try perineal massage to soften your tissue. (I didn't, but it does help many folks.) Labor in water if you can- in any form. I hoped for a waterbirth- but CT came too fast, but I did do transition in a warm shower (on hands & knees- I swear it was the only way I was 'comfortable') ((Yes I think you can use comfortable & labor in the same sentence.....somehow))<br><br>
If not in water- hot compresses feel great. with or without olive oil or something on them. When the cloth went from feeling good to feeling "too hot too hot!" it was time to push slower. I had no tears, skid marks or stitches, but even if you do, you're not likely to cause any real damage. I'd stay away from an epis- that cuts deeper into tissues then most tears. Talk to your doc about that one- some of them "only do neccesary epis" on 90% of their clients...<br><br>
But don't get scared off- you will do what works for you. No matter how it turns out you can have a wonderful & empowering birth.
 

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I did tear, and due to a very incompetent doctor (mad at me for refusing an episiotomy), she kinda sewed me up all cockeyed. Half of the stiches loosened up before they healed, so part of my body healed on it's own. Unfortunately, the part that stayed stitched, was all wrong. It's kinda hard to explain, but there's a flap of tissue that got sewn in there. It looks kinda like a tongue sticking out <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"> .<br>
Anyways, pain wise, it was fine.<br>
I'd way rather have this than another c-section.<br>
No crotch modeling for me.
 

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Also, I think I had false expectations of how I would feel. I expected to feel 100% better in a few days. And that was MY fault for thinking that. I had a long labor and had a baby so I shouldn't have expected to feel better so soon. I think our society puts so much pressure on us to be back to "normal" way too soon.<br><br>
I completely agree with this! I had a VBAC after 2 c/s. My VBAC lasted almost 40 hours and I had some tearing, hemorroids and major swelling which lasted much longer than my recovery from my two c/s. I think for me the shock of the birth trauma was huge with the VBAC. I truly expected to be up and running within days. I had focused all my thoughts and energy into the birth, i never asked my friends, doula and ob/midwife about what to expect afterwards. My dr said that I did have a lot of trauma, and that either way (c/s or vbac) is traumatic to your body and needs time to heal. Very true.<br><br>
I also agree that having a dr/midwife/doula team is vital to your sucess. I had a doula/midwife with me and my doctor the entire time I was in the hospital ~almost 20 hours. They were amazing and coached me through out. I didnt feel that "wow , I am a woman" that I had hoped for, but I did feel utter amazement that I had this beautiful little boy and would do it all over again. Havign him placed on my stomach was truly a moment I will never forget.<br><br>
Trust in yourself and your body. You CAN do it.
 

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I'm also a VBAC healing is way easier than c-section healing person (and I only had the one kid while healing from the c-section - can't imagine doing it now).<br><br>
I would take advantage of having a VBAC supportive physician/hospital too - like some have said, they are harder to find lately and even harder to find are doctors who will try a VBA2C. I am forever grateful for the doctor I had with my first VBAC who didn't even suggest a repeat c-section. None of my other doctors have given me any trouble after that first successful VBAC (now the hospital is this time, but that's a whole 'nother story - it's not doctors making that call, it's strictly money people).
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I just HBACed a 10 lb, 1 oz baby boy on January 24th and I didn't tear or even get any skidmarks or hemhoroids (sp?) or anything at all! I have not had any problems with leaking urine, losing control of bowels, etc - none of the "what ifs" that I've heard horror stories of...</div>
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Me, too! Right down to the ounce! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> Except my HBAC was this past August. No tears, no skidmarks AND she was born with her hand right up beside her head!<br><br>
I had leaking urine issues after my c/s. I learned about Kegels during my second pregnancy, and guess what? The leaking when I sneezed or coughed really hard finally went away! The majority of incontinence is due to pregnancy and in my experience Kegels have fixed me right up if I had any issues. I had a harder time with my bowels after my c/s and I've had two vaginal births since. So many things are subjective. Vaginal birth is such an empowering event that it has made me feel even more womanly and sexual than I did before. I don't think that you have to birth vaginally to feel this way, but my experience has shown it to be a very different and more powerful feeling. Pain from a c/s can outlast the short-term pain from vaginal birth. Women often can have an "easy" c/s and then have a more difficult recover with later c/s.<br><br>
I also recommend joining and at least lurking on the ICAN list.
 

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thanks everyone for your input....i'm still riding the fence but we will see how i feel closer to my due date!!!!!!!<br><br>
i must say i idolize all you women who have VBACed!! you're way braver than i am
 

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I actually feel that women that have elective c/s are braver than vbacers <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I fear a c/s way more than a vbac or attempted vbac. All I mean is that it just shows you that we are all different and feel comfortable with different decisions.<br><br>
I hope you come to a decision that you are comfortable with! Good luck with your decision!
 

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Thanks for asking this question. This is something that nags at me occasionally. I am just now able to have sex without pain, at almost 6 months after my c-section. I keep thinking about how it could be much worse if I had a tear to deal with. In my head, I know that VBACs are swell and safe and all that, but I don't like not being able to DTD comfortably.
 
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