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Hi All,<br><br>
I'm not currently pregnant by my husband and I are thinking ahead to #2 and I'm trying to gather as much info as I can about VBAC supportive providers in the area. My first pregnancy was almost 2 years ago and I had a csection for macrosomia. I'm not sure how supportive my doctor will be of VBAC this time around so I'm doing my reasearch now.<br><br>
I had my son at St Peter's hospital. I know they have whirlpool tubs that interst me. As an aside, does anyone know if you are able to birth in these tubs, or just labor?<br><br>
Thanks in advance for any help!<br>
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Hi Lori,<br>
The best VBAC rates in the area are at St. Mary's hospital in Troy, give the midwives there a call. I am a postpartum doula in the area if you want to talk to me about my services give me a call<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br>
Best wishes!<br>
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Hi Amy!<br><br>
Thanks so much for your reply. I had no idea about St. Mary's.<br><br>
I'll be in touch when I'm actually pregnant for some help! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Thanks again.<br>
~Lori
 

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I don't think that you can birth in the whirlpool at St. Peter's...I work there in a different area, but did my OB/GYN clinicals there.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/innocent.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shy"> I will say that I didn't like it there from an OB/GYN perspective. Sounds like Amydoula has a good idea with St. Mary's.<br><br>
Albany Med wouldn't be a good choice either. Very medically managed.
 

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Thanks for your insight, sdm1024. Its nice to have the inside scoop on things!<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br>
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I am a doula in Troy and I second recommendations for St. mary's midwives and the midwives at St. Peter's... Dr. Altman is also another vbac supporting OB at St. Pete's. St. peter's does have one advantage over st. mary's and that's that they have a great birth pool, where you can have a water birth (depending on your provider). When preparing for your VBAC, here are some recommendations that come to my mind:<br><br>
1. Read VBAC: Very Beautiful And Courageous (can't think of the author, but it's great!) and Ina May's Guide to Childbirth by Ina May Gaskin<br><br>
2. Get plugged into the community of mothers, doulas and childbirth educators at The Family Life Center - 465-0241.<br><br>
3. Get a Doula..... I'm available, and there are many doulas in the are with VBAC experience<br><br>
4. Choose a provider who is 100% supportive and doesn't give you a "Weeellll.... maybe we'll let you try it and see...."<br><br>
5. Believe in your body's amazing ability to birth!!<br><br><br>
Good luck!!!<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Thank you, <b>SarahEiley</b> for all the tips! I'm already 3/4 of the way through Ina May's book and loving it! I'm restraining myself from skipping ahead to the VBAC chapter, and I already told my husband that he has to read it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Do you, or anyone, have any experience with Drs. Mondragon & McGrinder? I drove by their office the other day and saw that they work with a Midwife and was just curious if this might be a good practice to persue.<br><br>
Thanks again!<br>
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Hi again,<br><br>
No, I've actually never heard of them, but I may know their midwife's name. Like I said, the only OB who works at St. Pete's that I know who is fully supportive of VBACs as well as waterbirth is Dr. Jeffrey Altman.... (518) 462-3900, 66 Hackett Blvd Albany. The midwives at St. Peters have offices in Slingerlands and Kelly McDermott is the best! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I've heard great things about St. Mary's also, they're cesarean birth rates is one of the lowest in the area along with St. Claire's. You can PM me about McGrinder and Mondragon (have some experience there). You may also want to look at the ICAN website (if you haven't already).
 

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I am so glad I found this thread. I just found out I am pregnant and I am hoping for a VBAC as well.<br><br>
I currently with Dr. Altman's practice and would give birth at St. Peter's but part of me is a bit worried about birthing there and how supportive they will be to a VBAC
 

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Hi Melissa! Congratulations to you!<br><br>
Have you met with Dr. Altman yet? I have only heard wonderful things about him from this board and also from some of his patients that I know. A friend of a friend works in L&D at St. Peter's and she said he is one of the more crunchy doctors there.<br><br>
I plan on meeting with him to see if he's a good fit when the time comes and I've already got a list of questions for him!<br><br>
Question for you though - what makes you think that St. Peter's won't be VBAC supportive?<br><br>
~Lori
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Hi Melissa! Congratulations to you!<br><br>
Have you met with Dr. Altman yet? I have only heard wonderful things about him from this board and also from some of his patients that I know. A friend of a friend works in L&D at St. Peter's and she said he is one of the more crunchy doctors there.<br><br>
I plan on meeting with him to see if he's a good fit when the time comes and I've already got a list of questions for him!<br><br>
Question for you though - what makes you think that St. Peter's won't be VBAC supportive?<br><br>
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Thanks Lori!<br>
I have met with Dr. Altman briefly and I got a good vibe from but I don;t have my first prenatal visit for a few weeks but I will ask him my 101 questions then, <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br>
I appreciate the info though, I think I will most likely stick with that practice unless I hear something I don't like during the prenatal visit<br><br>
Oh and I haven't heard anything negative about VBACs and St. Peter's, I am just aware that St. Mary's ( and I think St. Claire's) have higher successful VBAC rates so I wasn't sure if that might mean St. Peter's is more wary of them?
 

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Hello Again. I hadn't heard about the higher VBAC rates at the other hospitals. How did you find this out? I had my first baby at St. Peter's and really was happy with the staff and support after my csection (scheduled for macrosomia, which I will never do again!). So I'm comfortable going back there.<br><br>
I was looking at my calendar and saw I am due for my annual, so I just made an appt with Dr. Altman for a few weeks to meet with him. Figured I might as well switch now rather than go back to my old doctor whom I have no interest in staying with. I'll let you know how it goes.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
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I dont know if i have any business posting here <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">: but I have had 3 unnecessary cesareans and went on to birth my baby at home in the water almost 2 years ago. No matter where you choose to VBAC, I feel it is my job on earth to let women know about what helped me. Know your rights, and dont let anyone scare you. TRUST your body....trust that we can heal and heal well and go on to birth healthy babies. Tune in to your body...know that if something goes wrong, you will know about it....listen to your body. Really listen to your own signals. Eat right and exercize very often, even if its just walks. research everything a doctor or midwife tells you. Dont just go along with something because a professional says you have to. Come to mothering and ask if you arent sure of something <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> OR go to ICAN and ask. (International cesarean awareness network) Their message boards helped me alot also and many women from this board are on there as well. some doctors will tell you things to scare you because they themselves are scared and do not fully trust birth. My cesareans were not necessary, and for years and years I thought they were. A true necessary cesarean is an emergency situation. Mine were just because the doctor said my labor was going to last a long time and with a long labor the baby could die....no basis, as my son's heartrates were perfect. my doctor was able to make a few thousand more by performing a c/s AND be in the office for office hours by 9 the next morning. but anyway im not here to blab about that...i just saw your post for VBAC and immediately wanted to let you know to not believe everything doctors tell you. You are the authority on your body and your health. YOU make the decisions. I am also a birth and postpartum doula and know amydoula very well....though I am not taking on births at this moment in time because I am homeschooling.<br><br>
I wish you well on your vbac journey!
 

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Thank you for the advice, doulajewla. I have done so much research since my cesarean, both here at MDC and many other resources, including ICAN. I feel infinitely more prepared this time than I did last time. I do appreciate the vote of confidence in my body! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> And I am thrilled that you had your HBAC. That is wonderful!<br><br>
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I spread the word wherever its needed <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> I think trust is the key word...not only in birth, but Im constantly learning to trust my children's intuitions and what they need for their bodies, etc. Trust has a big role in our lives, and since the HBAC ive learned alot about trusting, not only my body, but my children's as well. And trusting that everyone knows what is best for them <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Thanks so much for sharing those words of wisdom doulajewla. I know so much of my VBAC success will rest on my own belief in myself. I am already planning on looking into some books to read to inform and empower myself.<br><br>
Lori, lets please keep in touch after we have our dr. appts. Maybe we can compare notes <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Btw- I would really appreciate any leads on birth doulas. My due date would be early April/late March.<br><br>
Thanks so much ladies!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Thanks so much for sharing those words of wisdom doulajewla. I know so much of my VBAC success will rest on my own belief in myself. I am already planning on looking into some books to read to inform and empower myself.<br><br>
Lori, lets please keep in touch after we have our dr. appts. Maybe we can compare notes <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Btw- I would really appreciate any leads on birth doulas. My due date would be early April/late March.<br><br>
Thanks so much ladies!</div>
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Hi there,<br>
I do postpartum only but can give you some great leads on birth doulas in the area. Just send me a PM if you are interested.<br>
Amy
 
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