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Hi folks,<br>
I started taking vitex this past cycle and had some questions about it...<br><br>
1. Could it be causing or related to the PMS FROM HELL that I am experiencing?? (Well, not "p"MS, just horrible cramps, nausea, etc during my period this time around.) Might that be a sign that it's kicking in?<br>
Subquestion: Is there anything other than popping advil that I can do to help the PMS? I'm taking EPO but just started... anything else? Am I doomed to awful PMS because my hormones are more balanced? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/mecry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="crying"><br><br>
2. How do I know when to stop?<br><br>
I'm taking vitex because I think I'm slightly estrogen dominant and want nice strong O, with a good LP and all that. Once I get that, do I keep taking the vitex forever, or do I stop at some point?<br><br>
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I wish I could help you--I have all the same questions. It seems that since I started taking Vitex, I have tons of cramping throughout my cycle, especially around o time (for days and days). I think I'm estrogen dominant as well and was told by an ND that I may tend toward PCOS. I'm taking Vitex to help even out my hormones and increase my chances of conception. I've read to take it up to o and then stop for the second half of your cycle. I've also been told to take it all month and to continue taking it thorough the first trimester if you should become pregnant (to decrease the chance of mc). <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: I don't know what to do with the stinkin' stuff. I feel that I've been "pregnant" but then AF came quite a bit in months past so I'm thinking that I'll take it all month this time around and see how it goes. I've been taking 1 capsul/day but recently read to take a higher dose for two months and then decrease to 1/day. Since increasing the dosage, I've had EWCM galore and I'm only on CD8! I seem to always o around day 14 so this is freakin' me out.<br><br>
I hope we find some reliable info/answers.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lurk.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lurk">: I am so confused by this too. I started Vitex two days ago and I feel really hormonal and crazy. Not sure if it's just regular AF moodiness or the herbs kicking in. I noticed EWCM and I am still bleeding. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: I hope someone will post some answers!
 

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I don't think anyone s really sure about vitex - we seem to go in circles with questions and no one really knowing how to answer. However, according to my herb book (published by the Canadian Pharmacists Association and the Canadian Medical Association), it is best to start with a higher dose for 6-8 weeks, and then reduce it. Also, you are supposed to take it everyday of your cycle, for at least three cycles, as it can take that long to "kick in" completely. Peer-reviewed data shows that vitex can reduce PMS symptoms. Basically, it inhibits prolactin secretion without affecting fsh or luteinizing hormone. There is also a note that long-standing cases of amenorrhea can require up to 18 months of treatment. Frustratingly, this book seems to focus on studies done on MEN. Why? I do not understand. Grrr.<br>
As for the other questions, I can't really help. Sorry. We need a visiting vitex expert to come in here and answer some of these questions for us.<br>
I do think, and this is purely hypothesizing based on personal experience and what makes sense to me, that when you have stronger ovulation, you have stronger PMS. This past cycle, I'm quite sure that I ovulated on *both* sides, and everything was just *more*. More cramping with ovulation, more moodiness, more breast tenderness, more, more, more. It was all pretty intesnse. I don't think it was related to any sort of supplement (although I did up the dose of EPO I was taking); I think it was just one of those things, like a random annovulatory cycle. That's just my gut feeling though.<br>
And, it's bed time for me. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br>
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Not a direct answer to your question, but maybe some help with other random questions....I'm on day 4 of Vitex.<br><br>
I'm taking 3 caps a day (1200mg) for 12 weeks, since Vitex is a slower working herb and takes time to build up.<br><br>
I've also heard (and this makes sense to me) to take it through your whole cycle, because since it takes time to work, whats the point of just taking it for two weeks, then stopping, taking it another two weeks, then stopping, etc.<br><br>
I still haven't figured out the whole does it hurt or help during pg one though...
 

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I've got an appointment with my midwife this evening to talk, in part, about Vitex. I'll report back with anything useful I learn.
 

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From my research and experience with vitex, I have found it can have mulitple effects of different women.<br><br>
Ex. I have PMS migraines every cycle. This cycle after 3 months of vitex I did not have one. I started my AF while taking Provera for amenorrhea this month as well... so I believe the vitex finally started really working.<br><br>
I did have lots of EWCM the first month I took vitex and all month long. After that it tapered off, though in increased amounts when I expected it to be.<br><br>
Vitex can cause headaches in some women when you first begin. It may be that you need to lower your dose or take it in a different way. Capsules work better for some women and drops work better for others. I take capsules 1,000mg a day. You can take up to 1,500mg. A maintainence dose for those not TTC and such is 500mg. I take it all cycle, and would until I got my BFP. The only reason you would want to continue past that is if you are low on progesterone. All OTC supplements and such will have the do not take during pregnancy warning. I definitely recommend an herb book to look up the whys of those warnings. It would not make sense to me to take it through o and then stop, considering it takes a while to build up in your system to actually work, and there is no harm in taking it past o. I know the stopping works for some women.<br><br>
Like all medicines and herbs... it's not going to work the same for everyone, or work at all for everyone. I think with some of these natural remedies the thing to do is to stick with it... give it time... unless you think it is not for you at all. For the PMS and just good TTC measure, you might want to try drinking Red Raspberry Leaf tea. It tones the uterus preparing it to be strong for baby, and I would imagine that might help with cramping as well.<br><br>
HTH! Good luck to you mamas!!
 

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Thanks, everyone. This has been really helpful. I think I will stick to the vitex regimen I have right now (since SOMETHING seems to be working) and hope that the awful menstrual symptoms fade away, or I get pregnant in the next 6 months and don't have to worry about it for awhile. I will have to ask around the midwives I know and find someone who can give me some strong recs and info about this stuff, since every ttcer I know knows about it but isn't quite sure how to use it!
 
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