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Waldorf and kids who seem advanced?

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I have been interested in Waldorf for quite a while and in fact dd and I did attend Parent and Tot for a while.

DD is currently in a "regular" preschool and really enjoys it. She has not been tested so I have no idea if she is really "advanced" however the teachers at her preschool are constantly telling me how bright she is and the other day told me that she had already pretty much finished all the phonics stuff they have been learning (she is 3). She is also very interested in books and memorizes them after I have read them to her a couple of times. So, my question is would she be bored if we moved her to Waldorf? Would it be a problem if she learned to read before she was "supposed to"? Sorry if the questions seem silly I just want to make sure that she gets the best education without being pushed. I have always hated the idea of too early academics.

TIA
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She would need a very good teacher to keep her interested while also taking care of the needs of the slower students. Another thing to keep in mind, is that good teachers talk about the gifts of all the students and I have seen this in my eldest's class. The class recognizes that this child excels at drawing, while this one excels at running, while this one excels at math. All are viewed equally and without jealousy.

Could you try out a Kindergarten? You could see how she responds to a non-academic school since there are no academics in Kindergarten. Being able to read before 1st grade and how a child deals with that depends on the child. Some children are okay with it and enjoy learning the letters in a whole other manner, some are bored and others hate it. Think about what is best for her and her personality.
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Not personal experience, but our first grade teacher was telling me about students he had from public schools that already knew how to read and they still fit right into the class because the way Waldorf teaches reading is so diffrent than they were taught....it still held they're interest, they fit right into the class!
From what I've seen over the years, there has been much less problem with boredom from the academically advanced students in their main classes (those students who read well, etc) than you might find in the mainstream classroom, and I think it's because there are so many more levels of involvement in the class day than textbook type academic work. Students still get bored sometimes (my children find some of their special classes boring, and get bored with some of the assignments sometimes). Once they move up in grades, and have many different teachers throughout the day, they'll find some of them boring as well.

But most of the academically advanced students I know are for the most part enthusiastic about the main lesson classes. The upper grade students I've talked to that have come from or gone to other schools report that the work in other schools was much easier, but really dull (I think the issues stem primarily from the form of the curriculum itself, esp textbook curriculum, which largely controls the material covered and the scope of the assignments, tests, etc.)

The Waldorf school isn't really a self-led independent exploration type of learning environment. Not every child in the class is at the same level, academically, developmentally, etc. But what I saw in the kindergarten at this school, is that the teachers were pretty good at recognizing those children who were out-growing the younger ones, and feeling a bit restless for more. It's just that in a Waldorf kindergarten, there are other kinds of 'more' they can look to challenge those students than academics. Sometimes they'd honor a student with a special responsibility of some kind in a particular task. New playground 'construction' projects were a good outlet as well. For example, a dozen hay bales may appear one day on the playground, and the more enterprising students get straight to work turning them into their own creation, maybe a fort or a 'great wall' surrounding a perimeter. You'd see some of the more 'matured' students get very involved as construction managers, coordinating the project, engineering roofs and ramps and tiers and all that.

I remember another example--when a long 'tarzan' style rope was brought in and hung from a very tall branch. All the children were involved, but it presented the type of challenge where each child was able to push themselves as an individual. Many of the classroom crafts activities became more complex too. There were simple wood projects, with saws and hand drills and such. And all the older students spent the latter part of the school year working on their own handmade puppets, which was real challenge to all the students I witnessed.

There is a lot of consistency all year long, but there's a lot of dynamism as well. Besides the introduction of new elements, such as the swinging rope or the hay bales on the playground, there are seasonal changes. For example, in the spring--"spring fever" season-- the children are busy doing many new things such as planting grass seeds for their Easter baskets, and raising silk worms with the brand new mulberry leaves.

I can't say for sure that every child is more enthusiastic about this kind of classroom than they would be classrooms that are more academically challenging. But I think even academically advanced children would thoroughly enjoy the Waldorf k's like those my children attended. Except for the soft sing-song voices of the teachers (which is jarring to a lot of adults, especially dads I think
) and the s-l-o-w and patient pace, I find even grown adults are inclined to comfortably enjoy doing much of what goes on in the typical Waldorf K.
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Thanks for all the great replys. I am feeling much more confident that she would be fine. While I think she may be advanced academically, on the physical side she would definitely be challenged by things like climbing ropes (she is a bit uncoordinated like her Mother
)

Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by HollysMom
Thanks for all the great replys. I am feeling much more confident that she would be fine. While I think she may be advanced academically, on the physical side she would definitely be challenged by things like climbing ropes (she is a bit uncoordinated like her Mother
)

Thanks again!
That is one of the things I envy in my daughter, who got a lot more waldorf than I did. My family is super intellectual and became a reader at 6. In kindergarten, in public school, one of my teachers noticed I was having trouble with skipping and mentioned it to my parents, who blew it off.

I suspect now that I needed more physical activity and less brain work, but this wasn't something that anyone in my family would have paid much attention to. So here I am a klutz and never quite at home in my own body.

My daughter had a much more balanced childhood and was able to gradually grow into her intellectual side. Although she is not an athlete, she is strong and fairly coordinated and just comfortable with her body.

I can see both of my grandchildren developing beautifully, both physically and mentally. Tuesday my little grandson crossed a board over a stream all by himself, refusing all aid. He has tremendous determination, self-confidence and coordination. I love it.

That old adage about a healthy mind in a healthy body makes sense to me!
Deborah
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