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Want to discuss The Omnivore's Dilemma

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Has anyone else here read this? I read it this past spring, and it was a real eye opener... wow. I would love to discuss it, maybe it would be more appropriate in the books section but since it's so much about what we're eating, thought I'd post here (that and another poster mentioned it in a recent thread!).
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I'm in mid book; the section on organics... I'm still reeling from the corn section
No wonder we're all so sick! It's my #1 read when I'm off line, so I should be done soon
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Yes, the corn thing just made my head spin!!! That stuff is EVERYWHERE!!! They are even breeding farm raised salmon to eat it! Please do let me know when you're done...
DH just finished it and I am midway through it. Just reading nonbar code people. This is such an eye opener even for someone who thinks they eat pretty health b/c I shop at whole foods. We are buying a freezer this weekend to start putting away some food from our csa and local farmers markets.

Michael Pollan lives in CA where you can get anything local all year round. It will be harder here in Boston but we are going to try. (although I am not willing to give up avacados
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Amy
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Great thread!
I live in CA, and yes one can get most items year round.
: The problem is we assume it is from in state, sadly it is not always so. In the off season our stores (including TJ's, Wild Oats) are full of produce from Chile, and Central America. Even in the middle of peak season there will still be a lot produce from Mexico. Our farmers markets have it too. You have to really ask around to know what you are getting. You have to work hard to buy local produce in the land of fruits and nuts.
I loved Omnivores Dilemma. I am waiting, hoping Michael will be speaking locally soon. There were several eyeopeners for me.
1. the whole corn thing,
2. The real importance of buying locally. Any though I harbored in the back of my head that it might be ok to buy organics at walmart
were throughly banished.
3. It occured to me as I read the book that God did not create us to gorge ourselves on only a handful of foods. We as a socieity seem to only eat corn, wheat, and rice (in terms of grains). I have been making a consceous effort to add other grains to my family's diet. In reference to corn, we now only eat organic corn, popcorn, grits, and hominy. (corn that remembers it is corn
) I make our jams, catsup, and sauces. I tossed out my corn starch and am using potato starch insteed.
4. This book really introduced me to the whole pasture-ized/wild protein and dairy thing. I am convienced by the arguements I read there and elsewhere, and am trying to the best of my ability and budget to incorporate those things into my family's diet
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I am eager to read this book so I added myself to the wait list at the library. There are over 600 people ahead of me!!!
Uhm...I may just end up buying it or it might be a while before I can jump in on this one!
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I knew I would be totally disgusted about the whole part about commercial meat... and I was. I have meat issues to begin with, and since reading the book, I have started buying I'd say at least 98% of our meat from a local farm. At least I can wander through the barn and see the cattle before they go to slaughter. And, I have met the people who do the meat processing too... they are on an organic farm and they pasture their beef. REALLY expensive but that's good meat too.

I'm not sure I could stomach reading it all over again, it was really hard getting through the feedlot/slaughterhouse parts.
I absolutely love this book. It really is a must read for everyone. I can't stop recommending it. I really like that he isn't stuffing one idea or another down the readers throat, he just seems to present the facts, and many times he gives more than one viewpoint. So many times I just kept saying wow, I never thought of that... I have lent my copy to someone, but when it gets back I will read it again. He is a great writer!
just jumping back in to say I am learning so much!! I know I'm not going to be a hunter/gatherer any time soon, but I am actually feeling good about the choices I make... we switched to local free range chicken and eggs and to grass fed beef. I also always bought the local dairy rather than Horizon, just on a hunch

But I do agree with the guy who started and then "lost" Cascadian Farms. The more large tracts of land used for organic farming, the less of our land will be pesticized. I am hoping for better practices, but these are so much better than what's been done since the 30s...

sort of hopeful and scary all at once.
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If your were interested in all that Michael Pollan has to say on grass fed vs. grain fed meat, you should all know that today (Aug. 10th) is the last day for the open comment period on new rules that the USDA is considering for labelling meat "grass fed." The rules as proposed are truly dismaying, and a step back for those of us who are trying to make informed decisions about what we buy. Marion Burros wrote a really interesting article about the USDA proposed regulations in the NYTimes a little bit ago. The article title is "Grass-Fed Rule Angers Farmers," and it appeared in the paper on July 26. Online, it's a TimeSelect Article, so you have to be a paying member, but I'm sure your librarian would help you get it. Make your comments today!
You all have convinced me to FINALLY read the book.

I saw the interview of the author on Amazon.com...adn was VERY impressed.

Of course, there were a few other books I was going to buy to get the FREE s/h...and now can't remember!!!
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Mrs Bernstein
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We have this book on our wishlist--hopefully soon we will be able to buy it! A good friend of ours has just finished it and said it completely changed his life--will only buy organic foods now and just bought a hybrid car. I can't wait to read it! Right now I am reading Botany of Desire and really enjoying it.
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3. It occured to me as I read the book that God did not create us to gorge ourselves on only a handful of foods. We as a socieity seem to only eat corn, wheat, and rice (in terms of grains). I have been making a consceous effort to add other grains to my family's diet. In reference to corn, we now only eat organic corn, popcorn, grits, and hominy. (corn that remembers it is corn
) I make our jams, catsup, and sauces. I tossed out my corn starch and am using potato starch insteed.
I haven't read the book, but I have to disagree with this statement. If you look at the grains that were commonly used in the Bible, and also at the grains eaten by the people that Dr. Price researched, generally each population only ate one or two types of grain predominantly (ie barley and wheat in the Bible, rye for the Swiss, etc).
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I think I agree with caedmyn. I think that being able to eat such a large variety of foods is a modern phenomenon. Before modern transporation, people in Northern America would eat wheat grains, people in Middle Americas would eat mostly corn, people in the Orient would eat mostly rice, etc. Being able to get some of everything can be very cool, but it's not necessary.

However, there are some on the Standard American Diet who eat only corn and white wheat products, without any vegetables. I think that the grain can be the base of the meal, and that grain can be whatever is local to you, but then the veggies need to be piled on top!

How many are there in the world that "gorge themselves" on rice & lentils, and seem to be doing alright?

Having said all that, I fully enjoy eating a variety of grains. We do a lot of whole grains (literally - as in rice, wheat berries, millet, spelt berries, etc, not just "whole grain bread" or ha! "whole grain" lucky charms!).

I should add that I haven't read the book yet, but am planning on it. Sorry if I took what was originally said out of context.

Good discussion!
Aven
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There's a recent thread in the Traditional Foods subforum about this book, too.
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