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unfortunately, dh has been guilty of threatening to spank ds, who just turned 4. i have tried my best to GD and get dh totally on board, but the damage has been done. while he hasn't been spanked, he knows what it is and now, when he is angry, doesn't get his way with us, he says "I'll just spank you!". or his brother or whatever. i've tried ignoring it. i've tried "we don't spank and we are never going to spank. hitting is not ok for anyone. blahblahblah...tried explaining it away." nothing has worked. it's been going on for months now with no end in sight. it really ticks me off that dh ever made these threats and now we have this to deal with.
any advice?

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That's ok, my son tells me he is going to send me to the very bottom of the ocean forever when he's angry.

I am one hundred percent certain we have never threatened this as a disciplinary measure (nor have his other caregivers). I think he came up with it based on a popular mechanics for kids dvd about the ocean, and then when I CRACKED UP it became a way for him to deliver his message with emphasis.

I'm not making light of your feelings! I just think kids at this age will work until they find a threat that gets YOUR attention and then they keep on with it. I'm just saying "hmm, I wouldn't like that very much" myself.
 

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Ignore it. Don't let it push your buttons. He's trying on the power for size, and if it has an effect (getting you upset) then it worked for him. If you don't give those words any power, they'll disappear.

He's only using what was used on him, that's what kids do.

If he ever does actually try to hit, then you can stop his hand and tell him, "I won't let you hurt so-and-so."

But really, the way to make sure that something sticks around to bug you for a long time is to make a big deal out of it.
 

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IMHO, this is a separate issue from his knowledge of spanking. I think most high-energy 3 and 4 year olds will turn on their parents with all sorts of comments when they are upset. My 3 yo DS threatens all kinds of things. My favorite is when he says he will take my ducks away.
: (Whatever that means?) It might help to ignore the fact that he is talking about something that is a point of contention between you and DH (spanking), and just treat it like he's saying something else. I am sure he is just saying the most inflammatory thing he can think of, and if he had never been introduced to the concept of spanking, his favorite threat would just be something else.

I'll just share what has worked with my DS, though I can't really know whether it will be helpful to anybody else.

If his threats are isolated incidents and he isn't very upset, I will joke with him about it until he laughs. He might say "I'm going to BITE you!" then I'll reply "Well, I'll eat your nose up and have your toes for dessert." Usually he'll come up with something equally ridiculous and I'll continue upping the stakes until we're both laughing. After a few weeks of this, he started to cool off more easily when he is upset and make a joke rather than a threat.

However, if his threats come in streams of insults and anger, tantrum-style, I tell him he cannot be around us until he is ready to stop. My DS is not reachable when he is like that, so there's no point in trying to direct him or discuss anything. I also give him alternative words to use, (e.g. if he calls me a poopyhead, I will tell him, "You can say, 'I'm so angry, mama!'") but he is younger than your DS, so yours might not need that anymore. He has gradually improved over the past two months, small steps at a time. The first few times we isolated him for these outbursts, he kicked walls and screamed insults at the top of his lungs. Now when he is very upset he will often say "I'm very angry. I need to be in my room for a little while." He does this before he reaches the tantrum stage. Then he goes to his room voluntarily and comes out in a few minutes when he's ready to express his needs nicely. I get the impression that he is very relieved to have been taught a constructive way to manage his strong emotions.

I guess if he were very persistent with those threats but not tantruming, I would still try sending him to his room until he is ready to speak more kindly.

I get the impression that some mamas here do not believe in sending a child to his room to cool off, so please accept my apologies if this suggestion doesn't jive with your chosen style.

Good luck!
 
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