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<p>Thought I would start a new thread even though we aren't as chatty as we used to be! So many mamas babymooning I'm sure! <span><img alt="love.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/love.gif"></span> The old chat thread is <a href="http://www.mothering.com/community/forum/thread/1279059/weekly-chat-november-13-november-19th">HERE</a> if you want to back-read.</p>
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<p>We are getting so close to the end of November! I'm still in disbelief that the month has came - and almost gone! - so fast. I'm still pregnant and waiting, 40w3d and holding off induction talks with my doctor. I'll be 41 weeks at my next appointment so I'm sure they'll schedule me in for something then. :( I'm starting to get really disappointed that my body doesn't seem to want to do this on it's own. I've had plenty of BH, some nights with "real" contractions and lost my mucous plug, dilated to 3cm, baby at 0 station for 2 weeks but still nothing.</p>
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<p>I wanted to thank everyone for the support over my frustrations with the doctors and my blood pressure. Again the NST went perfectly and the nurses at the hospital told me not to come back for at least a week, though my doctor wanted me in there every three days.</p>
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<p>After leaving the hospital the other day I was running errands and slipped on some ice in a parking lot and had a really bad fall. I bruised my tailbone and pulled a lot of muscles in my groin and butt. It was so slippery and I couldn't get back up and I was so miffed that nobody stopped to help. A car even drove around me while I was down for the count. Since then I've just been laying low. I can't really walk much anymore and don't really feel like going anywhere. The whole process has made me super emotional but I'm hoping I can break out of this sad funk, soon.</p>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>FarrenSquare</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1280794/weekly-chat-november-20th-27th#post_16062181"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><p>After leaving the hospital the other day I was running errands and slipped on some ice in a parking lot and had a really bad fall. I bruised my tailbone and pulled a lot of muscles in my groin and butt. It was so slippery and I couldn't get back up and I was so miffed that nobody stopped to help. A car even drove around me while I was down for the count. Since then I've just been laying low. I can't really walk much anymore and don't really feel like going anywhere. The whole process has made me super emotional but I'm hoping I can break out of this sad funk, soon.</p>
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<p><br><br><span><img alt="rant.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/rant.gif" style="width:15px;height:15px;"></span>  That is outrageous!  I can't believe that they actually drove AROUND you!  Just wrong.</p>
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<p>I have to admit that I miss the old chats - I checked in, um, frequently on everybody.  But it is harder to post now - Rachel and I are not pros at naking, at least not on one side.  So far she cluster feeds like a maniac and sleeps a lot more than what my other babies did.  A LOT more....as in, she pretty much sleeps through the night if I keep her on my boob <span><img alt="bag.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/bag.gif" style="width:18px;height:19px;"></span>.  Awful good for 10 days old, but we'll have to see if it lasts.  Other kids (especially dd1) have been a bit of a challenge, but I think it is slowly getting better.  We actually pulled off getting all three kids pictures taken today.  Dd1 didn't melt down till the very end and we ended up with good pictures for Christmas presents for all the grandparents.</p>
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<p>AFM, recovery has gone pretty well.  However for the past couple nights my umbilical hernia has been killing me by the evening.  Have no idea what I'm supposed to do about that. </p>
 

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<p>I'm still here too. I'm 40w1d right now. I'm having lots of pressure and contractions so hopefully something will be happening soon. I do have an induction date of 11/29 if nothing has happened before then. My parents are here this Tuesday thru Friday or Saturday so I'm really hoping they are around when lil miss Piper arrives.</p>
 

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<p>I'm still here, too!  Farren, I'm outraged on your behalf that nobody stopped to help you when you slipped!   I hope your injuries heal soon so you can walk without pain.</p>
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<p>I've been pretty sedentary today - I'm not sleeping well and am tired ALL the time.  Yawn...</p>
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<p>Also crankily still here. I didn't check in much before, but all this waiting is killing me. :p</p>
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<p>I'm now 40w and 3d and absolutely miserable. My DD was a week early. All this waiting is hard. Hoping that everyone else waiting won't have to wait too much longer.</p>
 

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<p>Big hugs to those still waiting!</p>
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<p>I've also missed the chattier threads (not that I could really keep up, anyway!) but know that means we're all busy, either with babies or trying to get them out!</p>
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<p>Farren, that is awful! :(  I am so sorry you are hurt and that no one would bother to help. Ugh!  While it's not likely much consolation, it is true that most first timers will gestate to an average of 41w1d.  Just because it's taking longer doesn't mean your body isn't working - in fact, clearly from all the signs, it is!  I hope the wait is bearable for you.  <img alt="hug.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hug.gif"></p>
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<p>Yesterday was my EDD.  I had reminders on my phone going off telling me it was "Baby's Birthday."  <img alt="thumb.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif">  I still can hardly believe she's here and it's now been a full week!  Thursday night was really awful with her being awake and fussy the WHOLE night - literally until 7am.  We had her newborn photo shoot Friday (EDD) morning and the upside of the long night was she slept really well during the shoot (which was the goal).  We did some family shots, in addition to a bunch of just her and then some of her and her brothers.  I am not sure I want to see the ones of me!  I needed a shower and had just a smidgen of make up on after that long night.  Oh, well.  A family picture of all of us is rare, indeed, so it won't be too bad if it doesn't work out this time, right? :eek:</p>
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<p>So her EDD was the date of her first outing.  We took her to the pedi for the first time and I was shocked that she's dropped more weight - down to 7-10.  Born at 8-4 and was 8-0 three days later.  She nurses a TON (and all night that night before the weigh-in).  I'm not sure if it's a difference in scales or if she's really lost that much.  The pedi was not concerned and I'm certainly trying not to be... But I don't recall having a baby lose that much or over that long a period.  Of course, then I wonder if she didn't gain a little above her "optimal" level due to my less-than-perfect diet and then some of that is dropping off?  She looks wonderful and perfect so all is well, I'm sure!</p>
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<p>She sleeps a TON.  Earlier she slept an over 3 hour stretch, nursed a tiny bit, and fell asleep again.  She did wake up and nurse a lot more and then stayed awake with us for a couple of hours.  I should be asleep with her now, but am feeling somewhat restless since I didn't really DO much today.  I'm exhausted and achy and sore (still) but felt better with getting out yesterday than with laying low today.  <img alt="headscratch.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/headscratch.gif"></p>
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<p>I keep checking in to see what new babies have been born.  I'm so excited for my local friend cagirlintexas who's due this coming week.  I have another friend locally who's due in early December.  And then there's annettemarie who will have her twins before long!  There will be babies everywhere before long!</p>
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<p>But I am still not sure how it is already November, let alone the 20th!  This seemed like it would never happen, and it's already here!  <img alt="thumb.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif"></p>
 

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<p>Farren- That is truly awful!  I can't believe no one stopped!  I really hope you can rest and recover quickly.  I'm so glad it hasn't gotten icy here yet.  I'm dreading the icy walk to the car with a newborn and toddler in tow once winter really hits <span><img alt="greensad.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/greensad.gif"></span></p>
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<p>Ellen- I remember the first few weeks of breast feeding with Wyatt were difficult.  I couldn't really nak until he was over a month old and we both got the hang of it.  Give yourself time and enjoy the babymoon!</p>
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<p>Honestly, the chattier threads left me overwhelmed!  I could never keep up with everything that was going on with everyone.  But I'm still here!  40w1d and actually feeling pretty zen about it.  Last week I was in so much pain because I had a thrombosed hemmorrhoid and was sure baby was going to come when I was so uncomfortable and miserable.  But here I am, still pregnant, OVER my due date (never saw that happening as my son came 3 days early!) and feeling much better physically.  I'm lucky and am still sleeping fairly well, despite contractions and getting up to pee every few hours.  My husband has been amazing and helped with everything the last few days, so I think that is also keeping my spirits high.</p>
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<p>There is home birth circle today, which I thought I would be attending with a newborn, but I'll go heavily pregnant instead!  I'm looking forward to seeing everyone, since I missed last month.  It's nice to have a group of like-minded moms who won't be asking me when I'm getting induced, but will be cheering me on for going overdue.  Plus Wyatt gets to play with the other toddlers that go, so it's a good time for both of us. </p>
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<p>And the rest of the day is going to be spent crafting.  I've decided if Emma isn't going to make an appearance for awhile, my goal is to make all of Wyatt and Emma's Christmas gifts!  I'm aiming for a completely handmade Christmas.  So far I've got a set of cloth blocks I made Wyatt with his name and numbers on them (they look like this: <a href="http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/Aphistasthai/IMG_9064.jpg?t=1290343088" target="_blank">http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/Aphistasthai/IMG_9064.jpg?t=1290343088</a> but those are a set I made for Wyatt's buddy Grant), a crocheted sweater for Wyatt and hat and baby legs for Emma, and a crocheted stuffed bear for one of them.  I'm going to start a baby blanket for Emma today and make some dream catchers and jewelery to give as gifts to other family as well.  I also want to make them each a stocking and make Wyatt a book with stories and pictures of himself in it.  Fun times!</p>
 

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<p>Farren-I can't believe no one helped you up! I hope you are feeling a little better.</p>
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<p>Jennie-you've got a quite a list of projects there. I've barely thought about Christmas.</p>
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<p>No news on the baby coming out, still pregnant trying to be patient. I haven't even hit my due date yet but it is hard to be due at the end of the month since everyone is having babies! I am either 38+5 or 39 weeks today so either way I'll have a baby within 3 weeks.</p>
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<p>Yesterday my son woke up and requested a sleepover at grandma's. I called her and she said sure and came to pick him up. So I finished my book in bed, went to Jo-Ann's to get supplies (I want to make this <a href="http://sewliberated.typepad.com/sew_liberated/2010/02/sweet-pea-pilot-cap-pattern-and-tutorial.html" target="_blank">http://sewliberated.typepad.com/sew_liberated/2010/02/sweet-pea-pilot-cap-pattern-and-tutorial.html</a>) and then out to dinner with my husband. We went to a very popular Greek place in town and it was already packed at 6:15 and we didn't have reservations. My belly totally got us a table quickly. The host/owner seated us and said "for the baby" Our waiter asked if I was having a boy, why yes I am. It is really funny this pregnancy because everyone has said I am having a boy, I can't recall a single person saying I was having a girl. This includes random people like cashiers and waiters, ladies in Costco etc.  Anyways dinner was delicious and I have leftovers for today. We came home and watched most of a movie before I fell asleep on the couch, then I went straight to bed. So another good night of sleep. I've had less heartburn lately, I think the baby is lower, so I've been sleeping better.</p>
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<p>Today I really need to be productive before my son comes back from my mom's since I didn't do anything productive yesterday. I want to clean and do my hw and then after that I can reward myself with starting the hat.</p>
 

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<p>Farren - I can't believe no one stopped for you! Even if you weren't pregnant, I'd expect someone to help! UGH, stuff like that makes me so disappointed at humanity in general.</p>
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<p>Melissa - I love that hat pattern. I generally prefer to knit and crochet, but for something that cute, I may have to break out the sewing machine.</p>
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<p>My little Charlie girl is 3 weeks and 3 days old now. She's been gaining weight very quickly. She was born at 7lbs3oz. At 15 days old, she was 7lbs8oz. On Thursday, she was a whopping 8lbs6oz - a 14oz gain in SIX DAYS! Clearly, mama's milk is doing its job.</p>
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<p>We did end up getting readmitted to the hospital a second time for five days to get her bilirubin down because it had spiked back up to ridiculous levels for her age. It's still elevated and is just coming down very slowly now. We spent 9 of her first 12 days in the hospital, but have been home since then. Have to go for weekly blood work, but next week should be the last I think.</p>
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<p>She is a very content little baby. She is really coming out of that sleepy newborn daze and is spending increased periods awake and aware. We've had some definite social smiles lately. She looked right at me a couple days ago and gave me a HUGE grin. She smiles at her brother a lot, which is just too cute. She rarely cries, though when she does she is VERY good at it, lol.</p>
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<p>DS is still having difficulty adapting. He seems to think Charlie is a toy of some sort, but we're working on that.</p>
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<p>I'm completely healed up and my bleeding has almost completely stopped. Gotta say, this experience has been very different from when I had DS and bled heavily for 7 weeks.</p>
 

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Oh no, Farren! I'm sorry you're hurt and I can't believe nobody would stop and help. <img alt="greensad.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/greensad.gif"><br><br>
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<p>...sorry guys, i can't help but follow you around as one of my best friends (farren) sometimes doesn't check in on facebook and i have to stalk her in here :p</p>
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<p>i had to pop in to say THANK YOU SO MUCH for this tutorial! i now know what i am making my newborn niece ember for christmas (she's 4 days old - born on her due date!). i was pretty stumped about what to make for her. i'll probably make one for my niece katie as well (who is about 8 months old). hooray!</p>
 

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<p>I miss the chat threads - and everything else! I was here posting on Thursday morning, and here we are on Sunday! I can't believe my little boy is 3 days old today - time flies!</p>
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<p>It's hard to type one handed and it KILLS my back to sit like this. MW came today - can you believe she caught 3 MORE babies after mine in this short amount of time?? Poor mama looked soooo exhausted.</p>
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<p>Farren! I am SO sorry about your fall! I got all teary-eyed reading that! I can't believe nobody stopped to help you. <span><img alt="greensad.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/greensad.gif"> Poor thing.</span> <span><img alt="hug2.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hug2.gif"></span></p>
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<p><span>I'm all at once envious of you pregnant mamas, and relieved to not still be in your positions. *sigh* It's such a magical time - all of it!</span> I remember the first night after Sebastian's birth, thinking how hard it was, how much it hurt, how deep I had to dig to get through it - and this morning I sat there nuzzling his head thinking, "I want another." <span><img alt="lol.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/lol.gif"></span></p>
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<p><span>I'm going to go try to catch up with the baby announcements...and then I need to figure out a middle name for this little guy so we can file his birth certificate!</span></p>
 

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<p><span>I'm all at once envious of you pregnant mamas, and relieved to not still be in your positions. *sigh* It's such a magical time - all of it!</span> I remember the first night after Sebastian's birth, thinking how hard it was, how much it hurt, how deep I had to dig to get through it - and this morning I sat there nuzzling his head thinking, "I want another." <span><img alt="lol.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/lol.gif"></span></p>
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<p>I can't believe it's been 2 weeks already, the time is going just as quickly as the last few weeks of pregnancy went so slowly.  I've been enjoying my babymooning...IL's are here and I've not really enjoyed sharing her.  I made sure yesterday to take her to bed with me in the afternoon for a nice nap to have some time alone.  They leave on wednesday, and DH goes back to work tommorow...I'm looking forward to getting back into a routine and having my space, but I will miss DH's help.  So far DD1 has been really good but I hope I can manage okay on my own.  I think babywearing will be my saving grace!</p>
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<p>DD2 is SO different from my first...she hardly ever cries, just sleeps and eats and is so content.  I hope she stays this way (knock on wood!)<br>
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<p><span>I'm all at once envious of you pregnant mamas, and relieved to not still be in your positions. *sigh* It's such a magical time - all of it!</span> I remember the first night after Sebastian's birth, thinking how hard it was, how much it hurt, how deep I had to dig to get through it - and this morning I sat there nuzzling his head thinking, "I want another." <span><img alt="lol.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/lol.gif"></span></p>
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<p>I have said since immediately after this birth that we're done. DONE.  I cannot do that again.  It was impossibly difficult and just crazy intense.  And my four children are fabulous and wonderful and I'm totally thrilled with them all.  <img alt="love.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/love.gif">  DH has been adamant that we're done and I can go along with that.</p>
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<p>But I gotta say that within 24-72 hours after the birth, I became a whole lot less staunch in my position.  <img alt="lol.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/lol.gif">  I told my MW it was crazy how quickly the memories of the intensity and pain faded, to the point where I was more likely to say, "We probably won't have any more."  But, really, we're done.  Really.  </p>
 

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<p>Farren, thanks for starting a new chat thread and I'm so sorry you fell and hurt yourself!  I hope you're feeling better by the time your lo decides to arrive! <img alt="hug.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hug.gif"></p>
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<p>I've been checking on here a few times a day, but keeping up with sleep, eating and nursing is challenging!  Also, I'm losing track of all the mamas and babies and such, so I've given up for the time being.</p>
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<p>I started to type up Maia's birth story, but after a page's worth, had only gotten to the first contraction!  Sorry ladies, that's going to be quite a read when it's finally finished! <img alt="winky.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/winky.gif"></p>
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<p>Julie, my first attempt was super long, too!  When I sat down and started a second time it went a little more quickly - but was still super long.  :lol  I'm sure it'll be a great story to read, though, when you're ready with it!</p>
 

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<p>I miss everybody, too, but I know we'll all pick up again once the babymoons are over and the intensity of the first weeks is through.  </p>
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<p>Farren- I hope you are feeling better, I can't believe no one stopped to help you, that is awful!!</p>
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<p>I can't believe the month is almost over too and that Thanksgiving is Thursday, I still need to meal plan.  I am so in love with my littlest man, and cannot believe that we got another blondie with blue eyes. We are still struggling to find a name for him and everytime we think we found one we change our mind. Right now we are liking Charlie a lot and thinking of Caden, Grayson, Sawyer and Asher.</p>
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<p>I too have had thoughts of maybe just one more, I think dh would kill me if I even told him I thought that, plus recovery seems to be rougher and rougher with each kid, really I know 4 is perfect for us. DH goes back to work tomorrow and my parents are still here helping out but I still want to cry thinking that he won't be here all day. He has been so much help, and really I just like having him around.</p>
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<p>We have to try and find a new van in the next couple days, my parents borrowed the van to go buy stuff for the baby and got in a wreck (no one was hurt the front bumper was swiped) and our van was totalled, which really sucks since would have finished paying it off by the end of the year, I'm trying my best not to stress about it and our finances. Hoping to find a great deal!</p>
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<p>This time I ended up with a couple hemmeroids and have never had this experience. How long till they are gone?</p>
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<p>Eek Maria - sorry to hear about the van!  I hope the settlement and subsequent van-buying isn't too stressful or awful financially.</p>
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<p><span>I'm all at once envious of you pregnant mamas, and relieved to not still be in your positions. *sigh* It's such a magical time - all of it!</span> I remember the first night after Sebastian's birth, thinking how hard it was, how much it hurt, how deep I had to dig to get through it - and this morning I sat there nuzzling his head thinking, "I want another." <span><img alt="lol.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/lol.gif"></span></p>
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<p>I have said since immediately after this birth that we're done. DONE.  I cannot do that again.  It was impossibly difficult and just crazy intense.  And my four children are fabulous and wonderful and I'm totally thrilled with them all.  <img alt="love.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/love.gif">  DH has been adamant that we're done and I can go along with that.</p>
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<p>But I gotta say that within 24-72 hours after the birth, I became a whole lot less staunch in my position.  <img alt="lol.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/lol.gif">  I told my MW it was crazy how quickly the memories of the intensity and pain faded, to the point where I was more likely to say, "We probably won't have any more."  But, really, we're done.  Really.  </p>
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So glad that I'm not the only one!  I'm done, I'm done, I'm done!I think I might have told dh to schedule his V as I was pushing <span><img alt="redface.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="width:16px;height:16px;"></span>.</p>
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<p>......but she is sooooooooo cute, and snuggly, and if I could have another one without being pregnant.......sigh......<br>
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