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I should probably have posted this monday, but I thought I would go ahead see how everyone is doing so far.<br><br><b>How is everyone this week?</b><br>
I am feeling mostly happy. Other dc are doing well, dh is in a good mood, and kids are going away for the weekend to their dad so I'm really excited for a child-free weekend!<br><b>When is the next prenatal check-up?</b><br>
May 2, my b-day. I will be 17 weeks then.<br><b>Any concerns?</b> My mw wants to do the triple screen or quad screen as they now call it. I'm not sure if I want it.<br><b>Symptoms?</b> Sleepy at 3 in the afternoon, crazy dreams, tight pants, and starving so I have to eat 5-6 mini meals a day.<br><b>Have you adjusted to being pg by now?</b><br>
I definately feel pg now and am starting to get excited about having an itty bitty around the house.<br><b>Feeling for a boy or girl?</b><br>
Hoping for a boy but really have no definate ideas.<br><b>Felt any movement yet?</b><br>
I keep thinking I do, but it's still really faint.
 

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<b>How is everyone this week?</b><br>
We are all sick in our house, so not so hot! The weather is warming up again and that makes me happy!<br><b>When is the next prenatal check-up?</b><br>
This coming Monday, I will be 14 weeks.<br><b>Any Concerrns?</b> other than my usual worrying, no.<br><b>Symptoms?</b> Morning sickness, tight clothes, tired, cranky, acid reflux<br><b>Have you adjusted to being pg by now?</b><br>
Not really. I am getting a little OCD on the state of our house though!<br><b>Feeling for a boy or girl?</b><br>
I don't feel either way yet. Last time my feeling was wrong too, hmm.<br><b>Felt any movement yet?</b><br>
I keep thinking I do, but it's still really faint. -same here!
 

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Thanks for starting the thread!<br><br><b>How is everyone this week?</b><br>
Eh. It's sooo coooold outside and DH is out of town. I'll be glad when this week is over. Last week we heard the hb on the mw's doppler and that was awesome.<br><b>When is the next prenatal check-up?</b><br>
Next Tuesday, April 17th, with the OB. This is a landmark because it was at this appt last time that we learned the baby had died. But this baby is doing great!<br><b>Symptoms?</b> Poochy belly, especially after a big meal. Sleeping a lot, like the same amount as the 2-yr-old<br><b>Have you adjusted to being pg by now?</b><br>
Now that we heard the hb, I'm confident that I'm "really pregnant"<br><b>Feeling for a boy or girl?</b><br>
Boy. But last time I thought boy too, and was wrong.<br><b>Felt any movement yet?</b><br>
Nope, wouldn't trust it if I did, as I was quite sure I felt it last time when the baby was dead.
 

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<b>How is everyone this week?</b><br>
been better but been worse.<br><b>When is the next prenatal check-up?</b><br>
between the 23rd and 27th don't have the appointment yet but my midwifes come every 3 weeks. i will be around 16 weeks!<br><b>Any concerns?</b><br>
worried the nausea will never end<br><b>Symptoms?</b><br>
really bad nausea and an amazing sense of smell which makes the nausea much worse. it will end soon right? heart burn which is annoying but i can live with. giant sensitive breasts. less energy. fewer and fewer clothes fit comfortably.<br><b>Have you adjusted to being pg by now?</b><br>
i dunno every time i adjust my body changes more and feels weird again<br><b>Feeling for a boy or girl?</b><br>
i dunno my gut says girl but i have trouble trusting my gut so i keep thinking it's a boy.<br><b>Felt any movement yet?</b><br>
maybe. sometimes when everything is very quiet i feel fluttering but i have trouble trusting that i really am feeling the baby. i hope it is my baby.
 

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<b>How is everyone this week?</b><br>
I feel like a whole new woman. I don't even feel pregnant, to tell you the truth. I'm not queasy except rarely, I am not as tired (still a bit, but not as much), and while I felt like a zombie in a dark hole the last several weeks I want to get outside and walk and garden and visit and talk on the phone and I'm practically HYPER with energy right now. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><b>When is the next prenatal check-up?</b><br>
I think May 10ish?<br><b>Any concerns?</b> None right now, feeling confident. I do have long term concerns, with all the medical stuff ahead of me but right now I feel good and I'm healthy and I'm focusing on that.<br><b>Symptoms?</b> Starting to have the crazy dreams that are no longer about sex <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: (<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">) and are more about drama... but always someone else's thankfully! Growing out of my clothes slowly but surely, lost a couple of pounds which I'm totally okay with considering the mountains of food I'm eating.<br><b>Have you adjusted to being pg by now?</b><br>
Absolutely.<br><b>Feeling for a boy or girl?</b><br>
Totally feeling girl.<br><b>Felt any movement yet?</b><br>
I think so. I'm not sure but I'm telling myself it is! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/innocent.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shy">
 

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My OB and I just discussed this, I wrote it all out. I'll post it here, hopefully it will help you make the decision. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;"><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-family:Arial;">I am 12 weeks today (boy it’s flying by) and I’ve already started thinking about some of the issues that I want to raise with him before the birth. We started talking about all the testing that women are being offered now and I asked about the AFP/quad screen or whatever that test is called now. I honestly don’t even know. I told him that now that I know about the false ‘positive’ rate that I might not be opposed to taking it. He said, “The question isn’t whether you would take the AFP, it’s whether you would do an amnio based on the results.” Wow, now that was a thinker. I said, “Well, does the amnio or test tell you anything that you can correct in utero?” He said no. “I said, then basically I’m taking the test to decide based on the results, whether or not I would terminate.” He said yes – and that the other reason is that some people like to prepare, but that since there’s nothing you can do about the results, if you don’t NEED to know, you don’t need the test. I loved how he stated that.</span></span></span><br><br><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-family:Arial;">The other thing we discussed was the amnio itself. I told him that I’d read in an article recently talking about amnio about how now with ‘better technology and mores killed practitioners’ that the risk of amnio is less than 1:200. He said that this is absolutely true, and he explained why. (I love this guy, I really do.) The 1:200 ratio comes from a group of studies done in 1977. At the time, ultrasound was new and amnio did not have standards the way it does now. He said that sometimes amnio was done with large bore needles, without ultrasound, etc. I don’t think I have this all right but I’ll write it as I remember it…. He said that in the American and Canadian studies that ‘no risk was shown’ (I’m not sure what he means by that…), but that in the British study that there was a 1:200 risk of miscarriage with amnio. Remembering the rudimentary way this procedure was performed and comparing it to the experience and tools we have now, that naturally the risks are FAR smaller. I would be absolutely inclined to agree. He said that a repeat study would never be done, it would be too huge and expensive and not worth the data when a 1:200 risk is small enough.</span></span></span><br><br><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-family:Arial;">He went on to say (and this was very enlightening to me) that the advanced maternal age is NOT based on some arbitrary age where women get long in the tooth. He said that if we started saying that the risk of amnio was 1:300, or 1:380, etc., the maternal age where the risk of amnio was less than the risk of miscarriage would go lower, and lower, say now, 29 is the advanced maternal age because at 29 you have a 1:200 chance of miscarriage but amnio is a lower risk at 1:300. (Those aren't real stats, just giving an example).</span></span></span></div>
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Kristina,<br>
thanks for the info on the quad screen. The only difference I had been told was that if results came back looking suspicious, I would have an in-depth sonogram, and then go from there. The reason I don't want to take the test is because yes, it comes down to whether or not to terminate and that is not a decision I want to make. Although, it may not be my decision in the end anyway ( worst case scenario) since some of the conditions tested for ( ie trisomy 18) are not compatible with life, anyway. Dh would want to terminate. And I don't know if I am brave enough to handle it. So I am practicing avoidance at this point. Also, the odds of something being wrong are so low- my midwife said 50 out of 1000 have abnormal results, and only1-2 out of those 50 have an actual problem, that the odds are that everything is fine, anyway! Then again, if that is the case, why not take the test anyway..<br><br>
Thanks again for your thoughts- btw did you decide to take or pass on it?
 

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You're welcome, I'm glad it gave you more to think about.<br><br>
I won't terminate even if I have a situation incompatible with life- I'd personally rather have as much time with the baby as possible and plan ahead for the birth than all the myriad emotions around termination, but that's my preference.<br><br>
Because I won't terminate the test is really useless to me. I could get it just to plan ahead for a special needs baby but again, I'd rather enjoy the oblivion and fall in love with my baby at the same time finding out about the problems, than worry and be scared I wasn't attached when it was born.<br><br>
That's me though, my thought process-- everyone has to decide what's right for them, and there are never easy answers. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><br><br>
I also wanted to add that the next step after the screen would be an ultrasound, and thereafter would be amnio. Either way, the ultimate question is: would you terminate based on the findings, or do you need to know ahead of time to be prepared to deal with what you find? If the answer is no, then the screen would be useless to you. If the answer is yes, then knowing the rate of false positive and everything else, the answer would be yes. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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We get the test only b/c if there is a medical problem I want to know everything I can before the baby comes. To prepare our son, family, and home for a special needs child. DH and I both feel very strongly that if our baby will die, then it will die in the arms of the mommy and daddy that love it (or in the belly of the mommy). I think it is a very personal choice for everyone though, and definately not an easy one to make!
 

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Why not? Because the 48-49 out of 1000 who have a false positive are tormented! I see those "NT screen results bad! Panic! Panic!" posts on other ddcs. If I wanted the test before, that'd convince me otherwise. I'm with Kristina though: if my baby has Downs (for instance), I want to find out after she's in my arms, not before, when she's a lump in my tummy.
 

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<b>How is everyone this week?</b><br><br>
not bad! Still some nausea-type indigestion at night right before I fall asleep and general bleck feelings if I don't eat often enough (i.e. every 10 minutes<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> ). Also I nearly passed out at the birth I attended last night,eek! It wasn't even messy/bloody/etc at that point (but it was 2 am).<br><br><b>When is the next prenatal check-up?</b><br><br>
um, April 26 I think. Or whenever my midwife shows up at my house? (yes I am spoiled!)<br><br><b>Any concerns?</b><br>
Not really specific ones. I'm getting anxious to feel babe moving definitely, but I'm not quite 15 weeks so I know I need to just be patient.<br><br><b>Symptoms?</b><br>
I'm still really tired after 4pm. I used to be able to function brilliantly on 4-6 hours of sleep. . . and now after 10 the night before I'm still<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:<br><br><b>Have you adjusted to being pg by now?</b><br>
In some ways, yes. I'm definitely not even attempting the jeans anymore! And I get these moments of really <i>feeling</i> I'm pregnant. And I can feel tiny little braxton-hicks when I'm with a woman in labour - very cool!<br><br><b>Feeling for a boy or girl?</b><br>
mmm, more girl maybe?<br><br><b>Felt any movement yet?</b><br>
It's fluttery/jittery,bumpery down there but not definite enough to make the 'OMG' phone call to DP (I'm on the other side of the world studying at the moment, and yes, I want to go home yesterday!!)<br><br>
Peace,<br>
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<b>How is everyone this week?</b><br>
I am feeling better now that my cold has passed. I am bummed to see more snow on the ground though. I want to see life springing from the ground!!!<br><br><b>When is the next prenatal check-up?</b><br>
May3rd<br><br><b>Any concerns?</b><br>
A few little jabs here and there but I am sure it's just ligaments and things settling down.<br><br><b>Symptoms?</b><br>
I am less tired and have no more queasy tummy...YAY!!!!<br><br><b>Have you adjusted to being pg by now?</b><br>
Absolutely! I love my mat clothes and my little (or big depending how I am feeling) tummy and all is good. The kids have started kissing my belly before "night-nights" Too cute!<br><br><b>Feeling for a boy or girl?</b><br>
A girl would be easier, we already have two, but I think it's a boy.<br><br><b>Felt any movement yet?</b><br><i>I keep thinking I do, but it's still really faint.</i> Ditto that!!!
 

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<b>How is everyone this week?</b><br>
Pretty good. My work load is finally settling down again, my energy is better, my housecleaner came today, and dh is going out to pick up a pizza. Life is pretty nice right this minute.<br><br><b>When is the next prenatal check-up?</b><br>
April 24, though if I settle on an OB before then I may end up with an appt before that one. I am thinking, though that I want to talk over all my interviews with my mw before making a decision...<br><br><b>Any concerns?</b><br>
Well, yesterday I sneezed and thought I was going to die, but then I remembered some mamas here having the same thing happen, so decided it was probably just ligaments. Now that I am at 12 weeks and have heard both heartbeats, I am feeling more and more like this is really going to happen.<br><br><b>Symptoms?</b><br>
The nausea is pretty much gone, unless I forget to eat, and my energy is coming back. I am feeling ligaments stretching and still tire easily, but that is about it.<br><br><b>Have you adjusted to being pg by now?</b><br>
I think so. For some reason this still feels a little surreal to me. Maybe because it is twins, or maybe just that it took so long for us to get here. I remember feeling this way with dd too until I felt her moving all the time.<br><br><b>Feeling for a boy or girl?</b><br>
My gut says one of each, but then I thought dd was a boy, so...<br><br><b>Felt any movement yet?</b><br>
Little flutters here and there that I am pretty sure are babies. I was feeling them more before my uterus popped out of the whatsis cavity down there - can't remember the name.<br><br>
Oh, yeah, and I forgot to mention, my other symptom is pg brain big time! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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How is everyone this week?<br>
Physically fine, emotionally a bit haggard.<br><br>
When is the next prenatal check-up?<br>
May 2.<br><br>
Any concerns?<br>
Nursing.<br><br>
Symptoms?<br>
Blood sugar drops, acne, gas, a little bit irritable, some food aversions, nothing that noticable (except the acne).<br><br>
Have you adjusted to being pg by now?<br>
I kind-of forget sometimes since I am so busy with DS. I feel guilty about it.<br><br>
Feeling for a boy or girl?<br>
No excpet we can only agree on a girl's name, but that doesn't solidify it for me.<br><br>
Felt any movement yet?<br>
I keep thinking I do, but I can't be sure because I am pretty gassy too.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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<b>How is everyone this week?</b><br>
Feeling pretty good. Still having some nausea, but I guess I don't mind it because I still find it reassuring.<br><b>When is the next prenatal check-up?</b><br>
Still need to setup my first! It's taking longer than I thought to register with a doctor, then I need to make an appointment with a midwife.<br><b>Any concerns?</b> I still worry a lot if I have one of those blobs of mucus. Sometimes something just feels "wrong" and I worry, but I always have feelings of things being "wrong" with people I love, and they're always fine.<br><b>Symptoms?</b> Some nausea, food aversions, exhausted all of the time still. My breasts aren't as sore as they used to be, but sometimes I have a weird pain in them, and my nipples are itchy a lot of the time.<br><b>Have you adjusted to being pg by now?</b><br>
Sometimes it feels really surreal. Every once in awhile I'll think "Oh, wow, I'm really pregnant!" Sometimes it's still hard to believe. I get more and more excited everyday, however.<br><b>Feeling for a boy or girl?</b><br>
I feel like it's a girl, but you never know. I don't mind either way. I'd love a boy or a girl!<br><b>Felt any movement yet?</b><br>
I thought I did the other day. There was a rapid flutter, flutter, flutter in my lower abdomen. I think it must have been my imagination, however, because 12 weeks would be really early, especially for a first pregnancy.
 

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<b>How is everyone this week?</b><br>
I've been sick, so it was a crappy week, but the good news is I'm on the upswing, and no one else has caught it. And, as of today I'm 15wks pg, so I can't complain about much! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br><b>When is the next prenatal check-up?</b><br>
Next week, at 16 weeks.<br><br><b>Any concerns?</b><br>
As of today, I'm having BH contractions, and I want to see what my m/w thinks of that. They make me nervous.<br><br><b>Symptoms?</b><br>
BH contractions, headaches, belly is poking out...<br><b><br>
Have you adjusted to being pg by now?</b><br>
Yes!<br><br><b>Feeling for a boy or girl?</b><br>
No, but I'm hoping for a boy. My m/s pattern was exactly the same as with DS, so I hope that means boy.<br><br><b>Felt any movement yet?</b><br>
I am feeling definite flutters this week and especially the past 2 days, but I don't trust that it's the baby and not gas! It's still too early to trust, in my opinion.
 

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<b>How is everyone this week?</b><br>
I'm okay. I feel totally fine physically, but emotionally I'm kind of messy! I feel very sensitive, prone toward depression. I saw my therapist this week and that was helpful.<br><br><b>When is the next prenatal check-up?</b><br>
My mw is 3h away, so I'm not sure... we're going to do a history over the phone tomorrow, and I might see her around April 25. If not, I'll see her on May 26. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"><br><br><b>Any concerns?</b><br>
I take prozac and I've been trying to wean to a lower dose, but I believe it's contributing to my feelings of depression. So my therapist and I are trying to decide if I should go back up or stick where I am. It's a tough call.<br><br><b>Symptoms?</b><br>
I still feel a little queasy in the evenings.<br><br><b>Have you adjusted to being pg by now?</b><br>
Yup. I wish I were showing though and not just looking fat!<br><br><b>Feeling for a boy or girl?</b><br>
I have definite girl feelings.<br><br><b>Felt any movement yet?</b><br>
I don't think so. I was very far into both my other pregs before I felt movement, so I'm not expecting it for another month or so.
 

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How is everyone this week?<br><span style="color:#FF0000;">Feeling Pretty Good Actually. We just found out we are having another boy so we are kinda excited about that.</span><br>
When is the next prenatal check-up?<br><span style="color:#FF0000;">In 2 weeks. I've got to have some more blood work done and we will have a 3D/4D ultrasound to make sure the tech was right about this baby being a boy.</span><br><span style="color:#FF0000;">Not really. Hopefully this rash will go away before then so they dont send me to ANOTHER doctor.</span><br>
Symptoms? <span style="color:#FF0000;">I'm so flippin tired!! My boobs STILL hurt. I've developed a heart arrythmea. I've broke out in a terrible rash that has made it to my face. Lucky Me.</span><br>
Have you adjusted to being pg by now?<br><span style="color:#FF0000;">I think I have without even noticing it.</span><br>
Feeling for a boy or girl?<br><span style="color:#FF0000;">We just found out we were having another boy... but... I do have a slight bit of hope she was wrong before and it's really a girl.</span><br>
Felt any movement yet?<br><span style="color:#FF0000;">I keep thinking I do, but it's still really faint.</span>
 

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<b>How is everyone this week?</b><br>
pretty mellow.<br><br><b>When is the next prenatal check-up?</b><br>
may 1<br><br><b>Any concerns?</b><br>
i'm going to mention screening for vasa previa, since that's the big thing of the moment. i'm going to ask her to request checking for that at my u/s on may 15<br><br><b>Symptoms?</b><br>
still lots of nausea...some gagging but no puking. i really popped in the last week <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br><b>Have you adjusted to being pg by now?</b><br>
i don't know. i'm starting to really feel pregnant though: sore and huge<br><br><b>Feeling for a boy or girl?</b><br>
no feeling yet, but once again i'm hoping boy just to spite MIL, who made the obligatory, "it better be a girl," demand the other day<br><br><b>Felt any movement yet?</b><br>
i think so, but it's still really faint.
 

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<b>How is everyone this week?</b><br>
Better. Have a feeling that nausea might be going away. Was not bad yesterday.<br><b>When is the next prenatal check-up?</b><br>
I am supposed to make an appointment for an ultra sound for week 18-20 and I am seeing my mw on May 1st or so. Have to check my calendar.<br><b>Symptoms?</b><br>
Slight nausea, especially at night. Weird dreams, more tired and had to borrow clothes from a friend. I did not gain weight, but it seems to have shifted to the front so that my usually tight shirts, blouses and bras were getting too uncomfortable. (I think I am whining. Does that count as a symptom? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> )<br><b>Have you adjusted to being pg by now?</b><br>
Kind of. More a mental thing for me - changing plans for next year etc.<br><b>Feeling for a boy or girl?</b><br>
I think, it will be a boy, but we would be happy either way. Though I have no girl's names yet.<br><b>Felt any movement yet?</b><br>
I don't think so. However, I have lots of gas, so I could be missing the subtle baby movements over that.
 
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