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Did anyone see West Wing this week? A reference to circ upset me, because it was presented as such a joke.

The character Toby just had twin babes, a boy and a girl. So C.J. asks him, how did the bris go? And he answers, "well, it was a great experience for me, for Hank (baby's name I think) probably not so great."

Why is a tiny baby's pain funny? I don't get it. Did anyone else see this?

Is that how bris is spelled BTW?
 

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You know, if any of the women or men posting here are into the world of filmmaking anyway, you might consider becoming an advocate against circumcision in movies. I don't know exactly what you would do -- make your own sitcoms/movies, hold a press conference, or protest every such movie you see. But somehow you could make people aware that every TV show is a male-bash. You could make "circumcision" a topic in film studies (i.e. As Presented In comedy, short film, long film, et cetera) or you could try the "opposite" tack. Make your own film about female circumcision OTHERWISE IDENTICAL to boy-circ shows. Finally, you could show male/female g.m. references side-by-side.
 

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About 1 1/2 years ago, there was a start up film production company that was trying to raise funds to produce a motion picture about circumcision. I haven't heard anything about them in quite a while and suspect they were not able to raise sufficient funds to produce the movie. I can tell you from first hand experience, it is very difficult to raise money for this issue.

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Hi Frank. I think that was uncutenternainment.com or something. I know there is a porn site that is that dot something else so ..... lol I thought they'd stollen the domain name at first! Anyway, I think you may be thinking of "Every Mother's Son". I don't really know what became of that either......
 

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I saw the show and didn't feel like it was supposed to be a joke at all. Toby said it as a rueful acknowledgement of the truth. It was hard on little Huck. I don't recall anyone laughing at the comment, maybe a few people gave him a smile of understanding.

I was actually more distracted by the fact that show threw it's own timeline right out the window and kept pretending that it hadn't. It was distracting as all get out!
 

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I just wanted to add that last year, the show "Scrubs" on NBC had some positive circ comments. The nurse, Carla was tending to a patient who had just had a baby boy. The mom asked about circ. Carla said that she personally wasn't a fan of it and it had no medical purpose. I was quite proud since that is one of my favorite shows! Oh, and the parents took her advice and didn't circ!
 

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Originally posted by kama'aina mama
I saw the show and didn't feel like it was supposed to be a joke at all. Toby said it as a rueful acknowledgement of the truth. It was hard on little Huck. I don't recall anyone laughing at the comment, maybe a few people gave him a smile of understanding.
I missed the episode (I usually never miss WW), but if the OP is right about the line, why would Toby say that it was "a great experience" for himself, if he were truly bothered by the circ? Sounds like he's conceding that it can't be a picnic for the baby, but that he's still in favor of it and thinks it's a good thing over-all.
 

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Devrock, we are now dancing on the edge of religious discussion. Toby had a bris. So did his father. And his father. And his father before him... and so on, for tens of thousands of years. It was a great experience for him because he was bringing his son into the thousands of generations of his ancestors who were consecrated to their God in the same fashion. But that does not blind him to the fact that it was not, at that moment, a pleasant experience for the baby. He is human and he loves his son. He is sad for the pain it caused, willing to aknowledge it. But not willing to sacrafice what he truly believes in his heart of hearts is an important decision for the greater good of his son.
 

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not, at that moment, a pleasant experience for the baby ... But not willing to sacrafice what he truly believes in his heart of hearts is an important decision for the greater good of his son.
I believe this is the central point I was trying to make.
 
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