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Hello!<br><br>
About 2 weeks ago, my 5 year old complained of a soar throat. She only made this complaint twice, so I don't believe that is any issue anymore, but that's how it started. Later in the week, cold symptoms started. She felt "under the weather", stuffy nose, runny nose, etc... The end of the first week came and so did the cough. We've had the cough and a slight runny nose since and the cough is only getting worse. There is no whoop, so that's why I was unsure about it being pertussis. Initially I just thought common cold, but this cough is just too much I think. During the night, she does cough so bad she almost vomits. She hasn't reached the vomiting point yet. She does spit out mucous sometimes, but its been clear/white, no green or anything.<br><br>
DH was saying he had bronchitus (sp) infections a lot as a child and my grandmother (Who we've visited a lot lately) was just diagnosed with an asthmatic bronchitous infection. Her cough seemed dry and she was trying hard to get something up, couldn't breathe well...My dd, has a wet cough, brings stuff up, she can only not breathe during her coughing, which seems to go on and on, she does get red in the face. So I was thinking maybe she had what my grandmother has, but Im not sure because their coughs aren't the same.<br><br>
We all also have loose bowels. My youngest dd (who is 3 1/2) is just starting to come down with this.<br><br>
I learned today that other kids in my 5 year old's pre-k are also coughing here and there and what not so it must be going around.<br><br>
I don't really want to go to a dr. yet, and treat her at home, but Im not sure what exactley to do. Ive been reading about the Sodium Ascorbate, but am unsure of how much to give. If she doesn't have pertussis, will it still help? Also, since the bowels are already loose, and I gave her the Sodium Ascorbate, how will I know she's getting enough or too much?<br><br>
I also want to treat myself, my 3 1/2 year old and dh with SA but again am unsure of how much.<br><br>
Im also wondering what else we can do. What else should we give her or shouldn't give her? Would setting up a humidifer help? What should I put in it? Ive been reading a lot but have just gotten so confused.<br><br>
Any help will be appreciated.<br><br>
Thank you,<br>
Trishia
 

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When the boys get sick with a cold we always set up the humidifier/vaporizer and add a little eucalyptus and menthol oil to it. You could also try her on some breathing treatments to loosen the stuff in her chest up and clear her nose. Just boil some water, add a small amount of oils and let her sit up over it with a towel loosely drapped over her head. This, of course will only be with you right there and for the older only!<br>
Something I also do is get some vit. C drops and start dosing them with it! Hylands has some great cold stuff that you can try, but it will have to be on the weekend because you have to give it to them throughout the day on a certain schedule outlined on the bottle.<br>
As for the diarhrea, I would try BART or BRAT. Bananas,applesauce, rice, and toast. And if anything else, some good, old fashioned, homemade, chicken and RICE soup.<br>
I also know that fenugreek is supposed to help with respiratory health. I don't know the details but you could perhaps check with your local co-op or herbalist to see if it might help your girls. It was suggested to me but I'm prego, so...<br>
We're all battling a nasty bought of the cold here as well and it just seems to want to hang on and on! Best of luck to you! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love">
 

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Thank you so much for your suggestions! Im going out tomorrow to pick up the Vit C and everything so hopefully this starts going away from us soon.<br><br>
Im also pregnant so I guess the fenugreek is out for us here too. And for the breathing treatment, are there certain oils I should use?<br><br>
Thanks again!<br>
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I think the poop stuff might be a totally different issue from the cough. Either one could be viral, but the cough might be pertussis, although it would take a couple of more weeks to know for sure.<br>
Vitamin C is good all around, for either, or both.<br>
It sounds like either croup or pertussis. If the older dd stops coughing this week, that would sound more like croupe.<br>
Also, long, hot, steamy baths might help their bronchial areas. I'm not sure if that's medically verifiable, but that's what we do for all kinds of stuff, and it's pleasant, if nothing else. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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It sounds like the cold ds just had (also from preschool). The weather here is very humid, and I'm sure that helped. I gave him about 1000 mg over the course of a day. I tried an over the counter cough suppressant, but it didn't help much. I also gave him "Runny Rhino" lollipops which have pectin to sooth the throat, a little vit C and a little zinc. I like the lollipop style cough drops because he is less likely to aspirate them during a coughing fit. I also gave him honey and lemon juice mixed in warm water. The cold lasted about a week and included about 3 days of fever, loss of appetite, and some loose bowel movements.
 

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That sounds like exactly what we had, but it was whooping cough at our house, I never heard a whoop sound either, but it was just like you explained and started with the sore throat, fever, and runny nose. There seems to be a lot of pertussis going around. You may want to check with a doc to get a pertussis test done. It doesn't mean you have to go with their suggestions of treatment, we didn't and our doc was supportive of our more natural/herbal route even if it wasn't what he would suggest.<br><br>
I think vitamin c is always helpful, for real little ones, be cautious with the dosing. It won't cure it if it is pertussis, but it sure can help the immune system! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> Humidifier is good for any bad cough, and has done wonders here. Also a decongestant (herbal or OTC) was really helpful for us. I was just awful with that runny nose so I felt how my baby must have been but he couldn't blow! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> He seemed much more comfortable once we got his sinuses more clear. I use elderberry syrup for coughs and it has always worked great, but it didn't do a thing for this cough. If it is whooping cough, it probably won't but if it is a just plain awful, nasty cough, it may help. We use the Herbs for Kids brand (try a google search) because it is already dosed for children, but there are other herbal cough medicine (elderberry or other) that are really good, too.<br><br>
Otherwise, just lots of love and TLC! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/heartbeat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="heartbeat">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Thank you so much for your suggestions! Im going out tomorrow to pick up the Vit C and everything so hopefully this starts going away from us soon.<br><br>
Im also pregnant so I guess the fenugreek is out for us here too. And for the breathing treatment, are there certain oils I should use?<br><br>
Thanks again!<br>
Trishia</div>
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Do you mean oil brands, or what oil scents? Brands don't really matter as long as their essensial oils. And I'd use the same kind as you put in the humidifier--eucaliptus, menthol, peppermint, comfry...all or just one! But not too much, they're mighty powerful!<br>
And if others here are saying it might be persituss, get it checked out. I've never had to deal with that so I'm kinda ignorant about those possibilities,sorry <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> .
 

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Thanks everyone for your advise! We've started doing what we could the night before last then yesterday I went out and bought just about everything mentioned here. We've started the vitamin c and doing the humidifer and all. I made some vegetable broth (I used to drink it when I was little and sick, lol) and added honey and lemon to that. The cough seems a little better, last night we only had 1 or 2 really bad episodes. My 3 year old came down with fever on thurs, but by morning it was gone, and she is coughing more, but hers hasn't gotten has bad and DD1s did and hopefully it won't.<br><br>
The poops seem better also. Still loose, but not as bad.<br><br>
DD1 also had an ear ache thurs night. I treated that with oil drops and she hasn't complained since that night.<br><br>
I was thinking of taking them in next week just to see what it is. But I think we are going to be alright!<br><br>
Thanks for so much help!<br>
Trishia
 
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